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Old 01-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #126
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It annoys the hell out of me as well. I don't want to pretend I'm on a level surface, i want the car to act like a normal manual car on a hill. There should be an option to turn it on for people who cant figure hills out and NEED assistance, not have it on automatically and make it impossible to turn off.
While I personally could go either way, I agree that there should be a way to turn it off. I think the simplest thing would be to just have it tied into the TCS. When you turn TCS off, hill-assist should turn off as well. When TCS is on, leave hill assist on.

Interestingly enough, I recently had a bit of an accident when I hit a deer and swerved off into a little ditch which caused from front end damage (car was still somewhat drivable). The engine ran fine (no engine codes) but I ended up having my TCS light and my hill-assist light both stuck on after the accident. I guess I must have damaged the relays or sensors responsibly for both functions. I could definitely tell that hill-assist wasn't working.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:00 PM   #127
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It was much easier for people to get enraged about such a feature being on their race car.
YOU JUST MAD CUZ YOU NO DRIVE STICK LIEK A PRO! I BEEN DRIVE CARS FOR 10 YEARS.

That fix could be sort of odd if it doesn't cancel cruise control with the clutch either - could be in for a rough ride when the car bounces off the rev limiter because you depress the clutch while cruising...

Then again, REAL pro drivers never cancel cruise control with their clutch - they never use cruise control at all because you never know when you will have to do a barrel roll to get around an accident.
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Old 01-06-2012, 08:17 PM   #128
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^drunk by 7?
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Old 01-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #129
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I don't know, just thinking that it's a 2 position switch, maybe, and if you did that, the starter would not start as it too would also be effected...
did you read what i posted? There are two position switches. One of them is for starting the car, the other is for the hill start and cruise control deactivation. you can adjust the point at which this second one is sensing the clutch as engaged. This isn't something up for debate, it's been proven for a while, and re-proven in this thread over the last two pages. I just didn't provide the manual pages showing where it is, mostly because i didn't have them.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:08 AM   #130
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Hill start assist can be disabled on the 2012 Impreza. I have a 2012 Sport Premium and disabled it yesterday. Here is the procedure: With the car on/engine on, press and hold the VDC button. I didn't time it but it seemed like it was maybe around 30 seconds. I did it while stopped at a red light. You want to keep it pressed until it turns off. Once it turns off, immediately press it again and you should see the hill start assist light flash. Turn the car off and then turn it back on. If done correctly, the hill assist start light will be on. I learned to drive stick and have been driving stick ever since so most of the time, even though I have adapted to the delay in the hill start, I have seen it as more of a nuisance then anything. If anyone is interested I can take pictures or post a video of the procedure.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:55 AM   #131
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EXACTLY, Tho there IS an option to turn it off on my car, but then I sit there, staring at a dummy warning light that's on ALL the time, telling me that the hill assist is turned off...
this is the part that I hate the most as well fuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:00 PM   #132
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O K, Adjusted the clutch switch today and went for a test drive, unfortunately there's ice and 4" of snow on all the roads here today so I am only 99% sure that IT WORKED!!! The brakes seem to come off much earlier now when I start to engage the clutch, the switch is overriding the timer and is releasing the brake when I start out now, which it never did before, it only released when the timer released it... We need someone else to do this and see if it works on more than my car...

What I did was turn the adjusting nut on the drivers side of the bracket 2 turns (loosened it) to move the switch towards the clutch lever fulcrum point, then tightened the nut on the other side of the bracket (towards the front). All you need is a 14 mm wrench, and be a contortionist to do it... It's the top adjusting point not the bottom, the bottom is just for the stopper for the clutch

EDIT; Turned the nut 1 more turn and now I'm 99.99% sure that my problem with the hill assist is over, I now can take off any way I want from a hill, and the brakes come off in time to not bog or stall the engine. Whether they still drag a bit or not I don't know, as I can't really feel it with the drag/resistance of 4" of snow I'm plowing through...

The MAX you should adjust it is so that when the switch plunger is pushed in, there's a 1 to 2 MM space left for it to still go in, so that no pressure is applied to the body of the switch... http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...t=IMG_1506.jpg

Thank you so much for posting this (and the pic from the manual!). I've been looking everywhere for some solution or workaround to this and finally I've got something to go on.

I can't believe there's an easy way for the STI to turn it off but not the other imprezas.... And what's really interesting is that I do have the hill assist light on the cluster, I've seen it light up orange for a second when starting the car (sometimes?), but I cannot get it to stay on by messing with the VDC button (the VDC light never goes green or red as it says in the book.... this is STI only)


So I'll have to stretch my back out and take a look at this switch. The last time I went under the dash like that I got a huge cramp in my back / oblique muscle.

I'd really be interested to see the schematic of where that wire actually goes, ultimately to the brakes. I'm sure there is a clever way to get around it. Also it was said somewhere that if you click the parking brake up one click it goes away, this is correct, but also a pain.

I live in one of the steepest neighborhoods in the country, its like nepal over here. I park on a goat path. I do not need this messing with me. When parking I usually drift back just with the clutch disengaged instead of going to N ... nope, doesn't work .. the computer turned my parking brake on

Also that pic from the manual you posted ... where can I get a hard copy of the full manual? When I had my honda, I bought the book from helminc.com, it was invaluable to have that before doing anything with the car. But they don't make them for subaru. I need to get one asap.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:49 PM   #133
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fairly certain that Subaru doesn't publish paper. It's all on line though.
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