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Old 01-06-2012, 10:12 AM   #26
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I have been seeing brand new 2011+ wrx/sti already installing performance parts and flashing their ECU with Cobb's AP and blowing up their tranny or motor. Please share with the community your horror stories so other future prospecters don't do what you did.
Yes because this happens to anyone that tunes their car.

83k on my car, runs like new, tuned before breakin. I attribute it's long life to having been tuned properly.

Stupid thread is stupid.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #27
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Ok then let's say for now, my futur plan would be:
Stage2 Cobb (AP+CAI+full TBE)
Kartboy STS
BC Coilover
Rest: esthetic mods

Let's say I need to get repair done (usually under warranty) my sunroof/fogging headlights/defect power window motor/etc (you get the point, nothing relative to the parts I installed....

Do you think they will void my warranty
because of those 3 aftermarket mods ?

I remember with my previous car: as long as the problem wasn't caused by the aftermarket parts, warranty was still covering anything.

Right now I have my Kartboy STS ready to install.
TBH.... I'm scare of installing it
If the mod is not a direct contributor / cause of the failure they will honor the warranty. I've had warranty work done on my protuned stage 2+ STi without any issue. The A/C compressor went out and they changed it out without any fuss. I even do the scheduled maintenance (60k etc.) and just cherry pick what I want done so they don't mess with my mods. Again, never had an issue.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:29 AM   #28
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If the mod is not a direct contributor / cause of the failure they will honor the warranty. I've had warranty work done on my protuned stage 2+ STi without any issue. The A/C compressor went out and they changed it out without any fuss. I even do the scheduled maintenance (60k etc.) and just cherry pick what I want done so they don't mess with my mods. Again, never had an issue.
+1 its all about if the aftermarket parts caused the failure!
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #29
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Ok then let's say for now, my futur plan would be:
Stage2 Cobb (AP+CAI+full TBE)
Kartboy STS
BC Coilover
Rest: esthetic mods

Let's say I need to get repair done (usually under warranty) my sunroof/fogging headlights/defect power window motor/etc (you get the point, nothing relative to the parts I installed....

Do you think they will void my warranty
because of those 3 aftermarket mods ?

I remember with my previous car: as long as the problem wasn't caused by the aftermarket parts, warranty was still covering anything.

Right now I have my Kartboy STS ready to install.
TBH.... I'm scare of installing it
SPT dealers sell short throw shifters, cat backs, and intakes. They can't deny coverage for installing those parts. They could be nit-picky about the brand but at the end of the day, a pipe is a pipe. You might get hassel for the tune if you float a valve or something though.

For what its worth, I was stage 2 in my 02 wrx (long time ago) and was warrantied on a rear diff replacement
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:46 AM   #30
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Great info/help guys, thanks a lot

I'll go ahead and install my Kartboy STS then; anyway this mod shouldn't cause any trouble to somewhere else and it will probably improve my shifting because I feel like shifting a big heavy duty Peterbilt/Kenworth truck LOL
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:56 AM   #31
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Great info/help guys, thanks a lot

I'll go ahead and install my Kartboy STS then; anyway this mod shouldn't cause any trouble to somewhere else and it will probably improve my shifting because I feel like shifting a big heavy duty Peterbilt/Kenworth truck LOL
This would be a perfect example of consumer protection under the
. This is a consumer protection act that in simple terms, does exactly what you say. A Cobb AP tune may void a particular warranty claim on the engine because the factory tune has been tampered with, but they couldn't make a blanket statement at the dealer that since your car is modified, you have no warranty. IE, they cannot deny a radio warranty claim because you have aftermarket parts on other unrelated areas of the car.

I would also second the KB shift bushings as well, makes a nice difference in shifter feel.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:07 PM   #32
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This would be a perfect example of consumer protection under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This is a consumer protection act that in simple terms, does exactly what you say. A Cobb AP tune may void a particular warranty claim on the engine because the factory tune has been tampered with, but they couldn't make a blanket statement at the dealer that since your car is modified, you have no warranty. IE, they cannot deny a radio warranty claim because you have aftermarket parts on other unrelated areas of the car.

I would also second the KB shift bushings as well, makes a nice difference in shifter feel.
That's true, but remember that the law usually sides with the party that has the most money. So while I would expect them to fix the radio if you have the ECU flashed, if they deny a powertrain warranty claim, good luck getting them to prove that it was your stage 1 map that caused the issue. You would have to take SOA to court over it.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:23 PM   #33
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Another thing to add. This info is from my friend who is a master mechanic (currently) at subaru: when you bring it in to the dealer for anything (oil change, windshield wiper fluid, etc.) If the tech sees that you have a dp or any after market parts they are "supposed" to write up a mod list on your car for the parts they can see and that list is stored in subarus records. This way if you remove your parts and then try to take it in for warranty on parts related to those parts, they can still possibly deny you. Luckily for me I just ask for my friend when I take it in for my oil changes (2yr/24k miles program) and no mod list is created.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:28 PM   #34
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This would be a perfect example of consumer protection under the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This is a consumer protection act that in simple terms, does exactly what you say. A Cobb AP tune may void a particular warranty claim on the engine because the factory tune has been tampered with, but they couldn't make a blanket statement at the dealer that since your car is modified, you have no warranty. IE, they cannot deny a radio warranty claim because you have aftermarket parts on other unrelated areas of the car.

I would also second the KB shift bushings as well, makes a nice difference in shifter feel.
oh thanks!

and FYI, I have the complete kit !
Kartboy STS + bushings!
I'm so excited to install them!
I keep reading that it will make a BIG difference (night and day).
There's also a lot of people here that think it's one of the best mod they did to the car!
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:03 PM   #35
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What's the STS? I know the shift bushings...
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #36
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:48 PM   #37
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The dealer i bought my 2013 wrx from said that a cat back exhaust and cobb tune does not void warranty...as long as I go to them for repairs. Although he did say that a CAI will VOID the warranty. lol
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:07 AM   #38
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The dealer i bought my 2013 wrx from said that a cat back exhaust and cobb tune does not void warranty...as long as I go to them for repairs. Although he did say that a CAI will VOID the warranty. lol
dealers will do and say anything if it means making a sale.

the dealer has absolutely zero say in what will or wont be covered under warranty.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:10 AM   #39
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The dealer i bought my 2013 wrx from said that a cat back exhaust and cobb tune does not void warranty...as long as I go to them for repairs. Although he did say that a CAI will VOID the warranty. lol
Catback exhaust wont void warranty, but a cobb tune will deny a powertrain claim.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:26 AM   #40
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Catback exhaust wont void warranty, but a cobb tune will deny a powertrain claim.
More misinformation typical of the newbie section.

Cobb tunes aren't people. Cobb tunes cannot deny anything.

Subaru of America can deny a powertrain warranty. Does it in every single case? Of course not. Warranty claim denial is at SOA's discretion after analyzing all the facts presented to it. SOA has offered a large number of "goodwill" warranty repairs for those who may or may not deserve them.

The mods should have never let this thread continue in the newbie section. All we have here is crap piled on top of more crap.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:52 AM   #41
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Wow.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:09 AM   #42
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I have been seeing brand new 2011+ wrx/sti already installing performance parts and flashing their ECU with Cobb's AP and blowing up their tranny or motor. Please share with the community your horror stories so other future prospecters don't do what you did.
Yes you've 'been seeing this' constantly, though that's a pile of BS.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:22 AM   #43
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It really depends on the dealer, some dont mind modded cars as long as its been properly installed. Dealers do need actual proof that the part you installed did cause whatever issue you have.
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I agree with Gallo2011..Lock this down. The OP's first post looks like a fishing expedition anyways.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:30 AM   #45
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I never had problem getting warranty work done on my car - I had TBE and Cobb stage 2 at that time including aftermarket struts/springs/wheels. But, work wasn't anything related to engine or transmission.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:38 AM   #46
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Hey guys heres my horror story:
My modded 11 WRX still works fine.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN.
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It really depends on the dealer, some dont mind modded cars as long as its been properly installed. Dealers do need actual proof that the part you installed did cause whatever issue you have.
not exactly. the mod just has to be related in some shape or form, even if it wasn't the direct cause of the failure, it can be considered a contributing factor.

and the moss-magnusson act was/is not intended to cover aftermarket parts that increase power or performance over OEM specifications. It was designed for non-OEM aftermarket parts that meet OEM specifications (no-name brake pads, etc).

seriously. some of you guys really need to read the warranty forums and see what ACTUALLY happens when you take modded cars into the dealer. 99% of this thread is hearsay that is completely incorrect.
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Drive stupid = **** will break! !
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:56 PM   #49
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Hey guys heres my horror story:
My modded 11 WRX still works fine.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN.
Wow. Me too. Stop the spreading the fear!

OP, if you want to mod, then mod. If you don't want to, then don't hide behind some kind of false sense of security that those who modded are idiots and will ultimately pay for costly repairs. There are plenty of cars out there that are Stage 2 with 100k+ miles and no issue. If you don't mod, then you're simply losing out.
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Wow. Me too. Stop the spreading the fear!

OP, if you want to mod, then mod. If you don't want to, then don't hide behind some kind of false sense of security that those who modded are idiots and will ultimately pay for costly repairs. There are plenty of cars out there that are Stage 2 with 100k+ miles and no issue. If you don't mod, then you're simply losing out.
And there are plenty of stock cars that fail left and right.

Something can go wrong either way, most people just have a problem with the folks that mod....blow something up...revert to stock, then claim SOA is the bad guy and should be "overbuilding" their budget performance cars.
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