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Old 09-05-2012, 04:34 PM   #926
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+ 1 on the WeatherTechs, my 2 week old Subaru All-weather mats sit in the basement collecting dust. Can't give them away....
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:36 PM   #927
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Can't give them away....
Yes you can. I'll take them.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:46 PM   #928
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^^Beat me to it. Lol
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:05 PM   #929
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I like my subie all weather upgraded mats. Same quality as the monster mats from my VW and I don't have to deal with snow smothers good for me!
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:41 PM   #930
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just got my DDM Tuning 35W 5000K kit and installed. yea, there is a ton of glare going on, and a few hot spots. coming from the honda s2000, they may have set the bar too high. im not even sure if there is more light usability compared to the halogens H11. oh well, i will take a comparison pic on friday night. but prepare to be disappointed by those who are looking into just adding the kit and not retrofitting. and those who are against HID PnP kits, carry on.

im not really, regretting the kit. i expected a similar outcome. but most likely will keep them anyways. why? because racecar.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:54 AM   #931
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just got my DDM Tuning 35W 5000K kit and installed. yea, there is a ton of glare going on, and a few hot spots. coming from the honda s2000, they may have set the bar too high. im not even sure if there is more light usability compared to the halogens H11. oh well, i will take a comparison pic on friday night. but prepare to be disappointed by those who are looking into just adding the kit and not retrofitting. and those who are against HID PnP kits, carry on.

im not really, regretting the kit. i expected a similar outcome. but most likely will keep them anyways. why? because racecar.
My retrofit doesn't throw any more glare than the halogen h11's. How blue are your 5000K?
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:33 AM   #932
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My retrofit doesn't throw any more glare than the halogen h11's. How blue are your 5000K?
yea, went with the PnP kit, the S2000 drains all my money, its my monthly car. i didnt get the retrofit, didnt want to spend the money. how blue are they? man, not very blue, they are pretty white with a hint of blue. not ricer blue or obvious blue, just a light touch of blue. i think the S2000 came stock with 4200 or 4500K HID and it was a little yellow for me. I wanted something more white so this is good for me.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:41 AM   #933
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yea, went with the PnP kit, the S2000 drains all my money, its my monthly car. i didnt get the retrofit, didnt want to spend the money. how blue are they? man, not very blue, they are pretty white with a hint of blue. not ricer blue or obvious blue, just a light touch of blue. i think the S2000 came stock with 4200 or 4500K HID and it was a little yellow for me. I wanted something more white so this is good for me.
Stock OEM HIDs should be 4300k, 5000k is pure white so there shouldn't be any hints of blue. With 6000k there is a hint of blue.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:15 AM   #934
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coming from a stock headlight s2000 for 6 years, these look blue. just saying.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:16 AM   #935
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yea, went with the PnP kit, the S2000 drains all my money, its my monthly car. i didnt get the retrofit, didnt want to spend the money. how blue are they? man, not very blue, they are pretty white with a hint of blue. not ricer blue or obvious blue, just a light touch of blue. i think the S2000 came stock with 4200 or 4500K HID and it was a little yellow for me. I wanted something more white so this is good for me.
I didn't retrofit projectors in my housings. I retrofitted an PnP kit like yours. At any rate, it seems there are a different level of quality for the bulbs. Perhaps some do not have the same focal point of light with respect to the headlight.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:17 AM   #936
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coming from a stock headlight s2000 for 6 years, these look blue. just saying.
5000K should have a slight hint of blue, but more white than anything.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:35 AM   #937
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5000K should have a slight hint of blue, but more white than anything.
I do notice with some HID bulbs they change color as they age, so maybe that's why. It's not that important of a point anyways.
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Old 09-06-2012, 02:58 AM   #938
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I didn't retrofit projectors in my housings. I retrofitted an PnP kit like yours. At any rate, it seems there are a different level of quality for the bulbs. Perhaps some do not have the same focal point of light with respect to the headlight.
do u have a pic? i'll try to take a pic when i get a chance
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:21 AM   #939
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do u have a pic? i'll try to take a pic when i get a chance
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #940
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just got my DDM Tuning 35W 5000K kit and installed. yea, there is a ton of glare going on, and a few hot spots. coming from the honda s2000, they may have set the bar too high. im not even sure if there is more light usability compared to the halogens H11. oh well, i will take a comparison pic on friday night. but prepare to be disappointed by those who are looking into just adding the kit and not retrofitting. and those who are against HID PnP kits, carry on.

im not really, regretting the kit. i expected a similar outcome. but most likely will keep them anyways. why? because racecar.
I got the same set up, I like it. I say keep it! I did change the parking bulbs on the upper part of the head light to led just so everything is white.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:53 PM   #941
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^Ohh good idea, do you have a pic? And which bulbs you got?
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #942
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just got my DDM Tuning 35W 5000K kit and installed. yea, there is a ton of glare going on, and a few hot spots. coming from the honda s2000, they may have set the bar too high. im not even sure if there is more light usability compared to the halogens H11. oh well, i will take a comparison pic on friday night. but prepare to be disappointed by those who are looking into just adding the kit and not retrofitting. and those who are against HID PnP kits, carry on.

im not really, regretting the kit. i expected a similar outcome. but most likely will keep them anyways. why? because racecar.

So after its all said and done, would you recommend the HID Kit you just purchased??

If so, DDM or Raptor?

Raptor Full Sized HID Kit (35W or 55W)
DDM HID Kit Slim Ballast (35W or 55W)

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Were there other HID kits out there you were also interested in or looking into?

If so, what were they?
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:37 PM   #943
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I had a good experience in the past with DDM. I bought the slim kit, not sure how they will fair out in the long run. the raptor kit has lasted 2 years ish with my girlfriend's car. would a recommend them? well idk. i will do a comparison pic and report back. the stock lights were pretty good and provided plenty of light. if you have 35-40 dollars burning a hole in your pocket, why not.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:34 AM   #944
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pic of my lights shining at a wall

pic of my lights shining at a wall showing my distance

glare, slight grade in parking lot


dark street

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HID + fog lights


i wanted the take a pic of the fog light place headlight to show that they do work, and they add a little bit of more light. but now it seem to add it in a way of glaring on coming traffic.it was also, difficult to find a street that has not street light and not in the ghetto.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:18 AM   #945
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That seems like alot of glare. Im sure its better in person but that pic doesnt help HIDs case.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:33 PM   #946
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Hmm, who would have thought that putting HIDs in a non HID housing would create glare like that
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:41 PM   #947
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Hmm, who would have thought that putting HIDs in a non HID housing would create glare like that
Yeah. I've seen much worse, though. A friend of mine put HIDs in the non-HID housings of her Mini. The stupid thing looked like a sun driving down the road. It was ridiculous.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:57 PM   #948
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A simple thing to do is upgrade to H9 bulbs. All you need to do is file down a piece of plastic on the inside of the light and it will work. I bought a pair, but haven't put them in yet.
I did this, they are significantly better, and the reflector is good enough that I'll try this for another year.
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:05 PM   #949
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^I need to do this, but I dont own a Dremel, which would make it 1000x easier.
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:07 PM   #950
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So you got three viable options for upgrading the Lo Beams...

1. H9 bulbs (cheapest)
2. HID bulb retrofit (35W, 5000K or less)
3. Full HID Projector housing retrofit (most expensive)
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