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Old 01-13-2012, 03:42 PM   #1
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Hey everyone I'm Chris (Very AA of me I know)

Anyways, Just sold my old toy 2008 Gt500 742Rwhp 689Rwtq on pump gas
Always had muscle cars til now, Srt8 Charger, 70' Fastback mustang, Z28 Camaro etc

Just ordered a 2012 Black Sti Hatch (Yeah yeah let the hating begin. I love the shoe car!) Although I've never owned one...I always LOVED the Boxer sound. Unmistakable. God singing in my ears.

Anywho, I'm trying to get a goodie list ordered to get me started so when it shows up I can start having some fun. Like I said I don't know anything about turbos and 4 cylinders so if there's assanine stuff on my list...I'd appreciate a little kindness :P

Here's what I'm looking at...anything you'd recommend in place of any of this..or in exchange. You need to add this instead of that, etc I'd appreciate it.

COBB Tuning AccessPORT Subaru 2.5L Turbo (inc. 2008-2012 WRX / STI / 2007-2011 Legacy GT)

Thermo Tec Exhaust / Header Wrap Graphite Black 2in x 50ft

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Invidia Q300 Cat Back Exhaust Titanium Tip Hatchback Subaru STI 2008-2012 / WRX 2011-2012

Kartboy Short Shifter and Bushing Combo Subaru STI 2004-2012

Jeez, didn't mean to write you guys a novel... :s Anyways I'd appreciate any pushes in the right direction I could get. Thanks again
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:25 PM   #2
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Why the wastegate? I didn't see a turbo on the list? or you just planning on upgrading the vf48 to something else later?

Congrats on your purchase! Shoe rockin is fun!
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:29 PM   #3
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Definitely plan on a turbo down the road,Probably not til next fall but I figured I'd rather get it ready now rather than re do it or regret it later
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:39 PM   #4
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Sweet, if I had the money and the car paid off I probably would do the same. You will have to post pics when you get it and of your upgrades etc...
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #5
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No need for BOV if your not planning to upgrade the turbo.

If your planning on a larger turbo get a front mount inter cooler or larger top mount

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Grimmspeed crossover pipe
Grimmspeed Phenolic Thermal Manifold Spacer 8mm

Any plans for suspension?


You should start a build thread we all can follow.

Congrats on the purchase!

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Old 01-13-2012, 04:53 PM   #6
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No immediate plans for suspension, should I reconsider that? Haha

Next things to follow will be FMIC kit, fuel injectors and pump, then turbo

Again, still new.. Still learning so might change it around a bit
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:56 PM   #7
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No need for BOV if your not planning to upgrade the turbo.

If your planning on a larger turbo get a front mount inter cooler or larger top mount

Add
Grimmspeed crossover pipe
Grimmspeed Phenolic Thermal Manifold Spacer 8mm

Any plans for suspension?

You should start a build thread we all can follow.

Congrats on the purchase!
You could still get a Bov with stock turbo.
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:58 PM   #8
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I say get coilovers and exhaust first
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:17 PM   #9
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My honest opinion. Drive it stock for a couple months and see where or if it falls short to you, then plan upgrades around that. I would do a downpipe and accessport first and see how you like stage 2 before going nuts with it.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:28 PM   #10
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My honest opinion. Drive it stock for a couple months and see where or if it falls short to you, then plan upgrades around that. I would do a downpipe and accessport first and see how you like stage 2 before going nuts with it.
From my extended drive with the stock one with the spt cat back I can already say it was too slow and too quiet I'm used to headers with catless mids and small resos or straight pipes on v8's

Why have such a sexy Subie rumble if it's too quiet to hear
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:39 PM   #11
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Then yes a good cat back, downpipe and tune would be my first priority. No sense in getting the external waste gate quite yet. From what I have read the new Sti waste gate flows fine. Headers aren't going to make that much power vs. cost but definitely will help when/if you get a larger turbo. If you want a loud exhaust look at the invidia race without a resonator.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:16 PM   #12
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My honest opinion. Drive it stock for a couple months and see where or if it falls short to you, then plan upgrades around that. I would do a downpipe and accessport first and see how you like stage 2 before going nuts with it.
Wise words ^^ is this just a dd? Or do u plan on taking it to a track?
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #13
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Wise words ^^ is this just a dd? Or do u plan on taking it to a track?
More than likely it'll never see the track or the strip, just a fun toy it's not really my DD as I do have a beater but I wanna keep it street drivable unlike the mustang... Being stuck in traffic with that was hell.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:26 PM   #14
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You could still get a Bov with stock turbo.
This is horrible advice, all you get from a bov 's that sweet, sweet woosh sound. Unless you are going high hp, stock will suit you fine. But if the sound is what you want I feel sorry for your car.

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Old 01-13-2012, 07:29 PM   #15
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What are your goals for the car?

That's the most important and relevant question.

I assume you are aware that you won't be anywhere nearly as fast in a straight line. As a 700+HP mustang unless you plan on dumping a ton of cash and trying to have one of the fastest subaru's around.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #16
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I say get coilovers and exhaust first
I second this, I love my suspension its been my favorite mod to my car.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:05 PM   #17
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There is only three people that I would listen to in here and two of us have posted.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:06 PM   #18
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What are your goals for the car?

That's the most important and relevant question.

I assume you are aware that you won't be anywhere nearly as fast in a straight line. As a 700+HP mustang unless you plan on dumping a ton of cash and trying to have one of the fastest subaru's around.
My goals... Are conflicting I guess. I'd start out to say I wanna have a fast car that's still fun to drive if you know what I mean. But Ill more than likely end up where I was with a stupid fast car that's hardly drivable and not that fun to cruise around town in unless it's 3 am.

How fast is too fast... In your opinions, at what HP do these awd beauties lose their streetability?

So.... I'd like to start with some mods to give me that sound I love.
My end goal is to be stupid fast(well just say that for arguments sake)

I dont want to compromise reliability any more than neccessary, I.E. No running more boost than the supporting mods/block can take.
And I don't wanna buy something now just to replace it later.


Hope that made some sense... :s
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:12 PM   #19
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Hey everyone I'm Chris (Very AA of me I know)

Anyways, Just sold my old toy 2008 Gt500 742Rwhp 689Rwtq on pump gas
Always had muscle cars til now, Srt8 Charger, 70' Fastback mustang, Z28 Camaro etc

Just ordered a 2012 Black Sti Hatch (Yeah yeah let the hating begin. I love the shoe car!) Although I've never owned one...I always LOVED the Boxer sound. Unmistakable. God singing in my ears.

Anywho, I'm trying to get a goodie list ordered to get me started so when it shows up I can start having some fun. Like I said I don't know anything about turbos and 4 cylinders so if there's assanine stuff on my list...I'd appreciate a little kindness :P

Here's what I'm looking at...anything you'd recommend in place of any of this..or in exchange. You need to add this instead of that, etc I'd appreciate it.

COBB Tuning AccessPORT Subaru 2.5L Turbo (inc. 2008-2012 WRX / STI / 2007-2011 Legacy GT)




Rally Armor UR Mudflaps Black Urethane Grey Logo V2 Hatchback Subaru STI 2008-2012 / WRX 2011-2012




Grimmspeed Uppipe to Turbo Gasket Subaru Turbo Models

Subaru OEM Turbo to Downpipe Gasket Subaru Turbo Models

Invidia Q300 Cat Back Exhaust Titanium Tip Hatchback Subaru STI 2008-2012 / WRX 2011-2012

Kartboy Short Shifter and Bushing Combo Subaru STI 2004-2012

Jeez, didn't mean to write you guys a novel... :s Anyways I'd appreciate any pushes in the right direction I could get. Thanks again
Just get a downpipe with cat and the rest on your list.This will make it streetable and still pretty reliable.You also may want to throw in some sway bars.Don't worry because after you do this you will be on here wanting to know what turbo you should get for an upgrade.Always ask yourself before you buy what do you want out of the car and make sure you can get it there without having to be like brody and spending fifty or sixty grand.

Plus there are stickies at the top of alot of the forums look through them and read it will help you out alot.

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Old 01-13-2012, 08:24 PM   #20
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Suspension mods will make you smile almost more than gobs of hp (I'm sure your GT500 was lacking in the twisties). Invest in a good set of coilovers so it's not too harsh to drive, swaybars, endlinks, and maybe strut tower bars. Along the HP lines, a full exhaust along with either a custom tune or an accessport will do the trick for a while.
Now the biggest question: Why dump lots of money into something you can't (well, you can if you want to be an asshat on the street) use to it's full potential? Take that car to the track for WOW, snowcross or even an auto-x or two. You should really get some seat time in a car that's completely different (AWD vs. RWD) than you have had before. At the track or an auto-x is the safest way to go about this. We don't want to see you on the news for wrecking your car taking an on ramp or corner too fast.
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My goals... Are conflicting I guess. I'd start out to say I wanna have a fast car that's still fun to drive if you know what I mean. But Ill more than likely end up where I was with a stupid fast car that's hardly drivable and not that fun to cruise around town in unless it's 3 am.
Been there done that with a DSM with a T67. It was also ghetto.

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How fast is too fast... In your opinions, at what HP do these awd beauties lose their streetability?
I would say 450-500 AWHP, beyond that not many people are running more, even at those numbers I would plan on upgrading the bottom end. There are higher hp sti's they just aren't very common so streetabilty is hard to gauge.

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So.... I'd like to start with some mods to give me that sound I love.
My end goal is to be stupid fast(well just say that for arguments sake)

I dont want to compromise reliability any more than neccessary, I.E. No running more boost than the supporting mods/block can take.
And I don't wanna buy something now just to replace it later.


Hope that made some sense... :s
Alot of people are going to suggest coilovers. If you plan on a tracking, or autox it might be worth it. The 11+ stock sti suspension is alot better then the older GR's. Upgrade swaybars and bushings and see how you like it.

Grab an Intake + Downpipe + AP and maybe a protune. You are already planning on getting the catback. That will get you in the 280-300 AWHP. You might make more with a header, and up pipe. Equal lengths aren't quite as boxery but they can still sound cool and net better power. The only reason not to go this route is if you plan on doing a full race setup or something of the like, in which case those kits come with the dp etc. You can get a decently large stock location turbo that will still use the downpipe from your stage II upgrade.

For a turbo upgrade, plan your fuel etc accordingly. I personally would like to see how much power I can get out of a GT3076r on e85. Sounds like you'll want something a bit bigger. Plan on a fmic while your at it.

If you plan on making a decent amount of power you might want to plan on shopping for a shortblock from the get go.

As others have suggested. I say get the stage II stuff then see how much more power you would like. I used to do mostly straight line stuff and 300hp was weaksause. When you take a 300hp car to a road track, in all probability you will be the limitation of your lap times and not the power of the car. So you may want to take that into consideration as well.
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I know you can make 400 on a rotated 3076 and E-85.
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Hey Jlawless, welcome to the suby community. I come from a Mustang/SBF family. I owned a 94 GT with some boltons, nothing crazy. The reason I came over to the "darkside" was I dig the handling, lighterweight, practicality and tunability of the WRX vs muscle cars. Although, the latest Mustang GT and Boss are supposed to be M3 beaters on a road course...
If I were you, I'd do a nice loud exhaust to hear that rumble. I have a catted downpipe, catless up pipe and a straight pipe axleback I can easily swap on and off. Love the straight pipe suby sound.
The other thing I'd work on if I were you is suspension. You can do things in AWD lighter weight than you can with FR layout of a msucle car. Do some coilovers, stiffen it up and enjoy the go-kartiness.
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This is horrible advice, all you get from a bov 's that sweet, sweet woosh sound. Unless you are going high hp, stock will suit you fine. But if the sound is what you want I feel sorry for your car.
agreed! you also loose a lot of much needed pressure. i made the same mistake when i first bought my first suby.
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Yah, don't do a BOV, a good friend of mine had one and he got sick of he CEL's and backfiring so he took it off.
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