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Old 07-28-2013, 05:19 PM   #1
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i am getting an uppipe and a downpipe put on my sti and i was wondering if it was safe to drive about 70 miles to the dyno tuning shop?
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #2
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I Defiantly would not recommend driving without a tune in general. Just Make sure you absolutely Stay out of boost. Do you have an Accessport? I would highly recommend running an OTS map from Cobb. Either way, you should make it their ok.

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Old 07-28-2013, 05:28 PM   #3
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In otherwords, if you don't have a boost gauge, don't even think about it. After a dp it can be quite difficult to stay out of boost.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:34 PM   #4
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I Defiantly would not recommend driving without a tune. Just Make sure you absolutely Stay out of boost. Do you have an Accessport? I would highly recommend running an OTS map from Cobb. Either way, you should make it their ok.
i dont have an access port, but i could pay for a tow.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:41 PM   #5
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Just stay out of boost and you would be fine
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:38 PM   #6
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Just stay out of boost and you would be fine
+1 dont pay to tow it. Just dont do anything crazy with the throttle and your good
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:25 PM   #7
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+3 on not paying for a tow. Just drive with a little bit of sense and the car will be fine to drive to the shop.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:48 PM   #8
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or...or...or, call your tuner and ask them...do what they say. They will probably tell you to drive to them and not do anything silly. you usually don't run into any problems (as long as you take it very easy) until you start messing around with injectors.
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:20 PM   #9
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Ask your tuner if they can get you a map in order to drive to them before the actual tune.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:53 AM   #10
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Accelerate slowly staying out of boost, and just cruise on the freeway. You'll be solid.

When I upgraded my fueling, turbo, and put on a full exhaust I used an OTS map which didn't work for my car. Knowing the tune was bad I scheduled a dyno tune but still drove for several days before the tune. That was 95k miles ago...you'll be fine for 70 miles.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:38 AM   #11
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or...or...or, call your tuner and ask them...do what they say. They will probably tell you to drive to them and not do anything silly. you usually don't run into any problems (as long as you take it very easy) until you start messing around with injectors.
Good Luck!
Completely false.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:39 AM   #12
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Just unhook the wastegate from the turbo and drive to the shop. You will be fine. You can hook it back on in the parking lot or have the tuner put it back on
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:00 AM   #13
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Just unhook the wastegate from the turbo and drive to the shop. You will be fine. You can hook it back on in the parking lot or have the tuner put it back on
No, this will cause him to overboost! If you want him to run just wastegate boost he has to run a straight line from the compresor to wastegate.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #14
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No, this will cause him to overboost! If you want him to run just wastegate boost he has to run a straight line from the compresor to wastegate.
Uhh what? If he disconnects the wg arm from from the flapper in the turbo then the flap will stay open and he might make 1 pound of boost at full throttle. If he disconnects the wg arm he will stay out of boost
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:37 PM   #15
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Uhh what? If he disconnects the wg arm from from the flapper in the turbo then the flap will stay open and he might make 1 pound of boost at full throttle. If he disconnects the wg arm he will stay out of boost
you didn't specify the arm, therefore i assumed the line. If he disconects the wg arm, sure he will stay out of boost but it will run worse than NA. Most if not all of the exhaust flow will just route out the dp, the turbo will barely spin to add air into the intake track. It would be the most longest 70 miles for the OP if he goes that route.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:41 PM   #16
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you didn't specify the arm, therefore i assumed the line. If he disconects the wg arm, sure he will stay out of boost but it will run worse than NA. Most if not all of the exhaust flow will just route out the dp, the turbo will barely spin to add air into the intake track. It would be the most longest 70 miles for the OP if he goes that route.
Why would I mean the hose lol and no, he will be fine, in fact if he called that tune shop and told them he was gonna do that I bet the tune shop would say, either that or I can send you a base file, assuming he was using a Cobb ap. I know tons of people that disconnect the wg arm for a short period of time. The car runs fine. Slow as hell and no boost...but isn't that the pin t?
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:43 PM   #17
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Point* you can argue whatever you want but it's the safest route other than a base map. Insures zero boost and none sense driving is done and the car is assured to arrive at the tune shop in the condition it left in
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:45 PM   #18
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If you don't have AAA, I'd recommend it. It does come in handy. Free towing within 100 miles. You will need to tell them a reason, at which you can say the car is currently 'broken' and can't be started safely. That's why you need it towed to a shop.

With that said, I always say to be overly cautious and get a tow. I've seen other people drive their cars in with no issues. I still bet on the side of completely certainty.
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:50 PM   #19
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I wouldnt recomend driving at all with out a tune and those mods but to just go down the street to the shop you should be fine just stay out of boost, drive slow and baby the crap out of it till its there and tuned.
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You will be fine to drive there, just go really easy on it and stay out of boost.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:15 PM   #21
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+1 for AAA

Or you could drive to the shop stock, and install the parts there.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:09 PM   #22
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I wish someone would just close this thread already. OP either have the car towed or drive slow "I guess" lol or you could just simply take 3 seconds. Un-hook the wg arm, that will you keep you from hitting boost even if you wanted to. It's really simple. I bet if you call your tuner he will even tell you to un-hook the wg arm if he can't send you a base map.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:32 PM   #23
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OP can really just drive to his tuner. He only made his turbo flow more efficient with that downpipe. Nothing crazy like change his maf, turbo, or injectors. Towing is little over cautious here.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:47 PM   #24
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+1 for driving there, Just a DP wouldn't cause any issues...just take it slow and out of boost. Worst case, The CEL comes on for a boost spike and puts it in limp mode and you wont get any boost anyway. Then the tuner clears it and gives you a kick ass tune to haul butt back home.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:27 PM   #25
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Can you get a tune if you don't have a AccessPort / Tatrix cable? I think this might have just been something wrong in my head. Can a car show up to get tuned with just bolt on parts, no Port no Tatrix, and get a protune and head off?
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