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Old 08-24-2013, 10:33 AM   #576
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I'm riding pretty soft since it's mostly a DD car - 13F 17R (25mm front sway 22mm rear). I can still get a bit of understeer with these settings, but mostly when I don't let the front corner load before I tilt into the throttle. Also running 33psi front 35 rear with 1.5 front camber and 1.6-8 rear (damn driver side rear would not match up and kept higher than passenger for some reason). What's everyone else running? I'm curious to hear more about some of the fine tuning people have made.

Also, I'd love a set of those adjustment extends for the rear - If you leave them in do they make any noise? I've considered leaving the fronts in, but I feel like they'll rattle around in there...

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13F/17R... that's pretty damn stiff.

1 - 30 (30 being the softest) isn't this correct?

I'm at 20F/15R (rear is set to stock spec because I was too lazy to take the backseat out. Now that I have the rear extenders I'm going to install them today and then adjust the rear a bit softer)

My buddy who installed the coilovers for me left the front adjusters in and I did notice they rattled a bit. I have a '07 WRX tho. Maybe yours is different.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:59 PM   #577
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Why would 30 be softest? Lol


1- soft
30- stiff
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:45 PM   #578
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Interesting... Always thought 30 would be the softest.

Well.. They came out of the box at 15 clicks. I thought going towards 30 makes them softer and I went to 5 clicks in the front and haven't messed with the rear yet.

So that makes me 10F/15R?
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:58 AM   #579
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Seriously considering these. What spring rate is recommended ? No AutoX , track.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:28 AM   #580
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I went to IAG and got an alignment today... I don't know why but the rear driver's side was out ALOT! (see image below).

Tomorrow after work I am going to install the rear extenders and put a set of '12 WRX wheels/tires on.

that alignment sucks.....you got real issues with lack of caster there...and the toe could be closer to zero and you could go -2* camber up front and i wouldnt drive tbat alignment
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:54 AM   #581
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^What would cause the lack of caster? I have an 08+ so I don't know what the typical caster could come in at for the 02-07. I'm running 6.5 caster on my 2009.

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Seriously considering these. What spring rate is recommended ? No AutoX , track.
Odi usually recommends 8k/8k spring rates for 08+ WRX. But you could always email them and confirm your specific plans for the car.
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #582
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Yeah I'm not sure why the caster is so low. My car also runs in the 6.5 range stock.

Jeff, make sure the top hats are oriented properly. That's the only thing I can think of without there being something bent in the suspension. I think stock you should still be 4-5
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:25 PM   #583
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that alignment sucks.....you got real issues with lack of caster there...and the toe could be closer to zero and you could go -2* camber up front and i wouldnt drive tbat alignment
That's for the info.

What would cause the lack of caster?

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^What would cause the lack of caster? I have an 08+ so I don't know what the typical caster could come in at for the 02-07. I'm running 6.5 caster on my 2009.
+1 to what would cause the lack of caster. I don't even know what caster does..

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Yeah I'm not sure why the caster is so low. My car also runs in the 6.5 range stock.

Jeff, make sure the top hats are oriented properly. That's the only thing I can think of without there being something bent in the suspension. I think stock you should still be 4-5
Yeah I'm not sure.. IAG didn't say anything was wrong.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #584
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Post a pic of your camber plate configuration.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #585
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Post a pic of your camber plate configuration.
I will. I'm out to dinner. didn't bring my car.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #586
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Nice to see so much good feedback on these. I will be picking these up if I can't get my KWs to stop clunking all over the place.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:07 PM   #587
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What is your toe set at?
Got rear ended a few days ago

I'll post a pic of my alignment specs when I get the car back - I leave all those records in the glove box.

I am pretty sure that .01-2 F & R though.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:46 PM   #588
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Got rear ended a few days ago

I'll post a pic of my alignment specs when I get the car back - I leave all those records in the glove box.

I am pretty sure that .01-2 F & R though.
Sorry to hear that man bummer, when you get it back go zero toe. Will handle better
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:00 PM   #589
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Sorry to hear that man bummer, when you get it back go zero toe. Will handle better
Oh, don't get me wrong, I have no complaints about the handling. At the same time, I'm always open to look into improvements. As for 0 toe, I'm about as close as I can get to null - but changing it seemed to cause my rear camber to change too.

Should be getting the car back today. It actually was almost no damage at all, but it clearly rubbed the clear coat off the back and the right exhaust tips were pushed in a tad. Unfortunately for the 17 y/o girl that hit me, I'm an OCD car guy ...
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:13 PM   #590
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Can anyone tell me the range of a drop these coils provide? Im mostly concerned with how high you can set them and what the smallest possible drop is on these coils is?

Not looking for a big drop, mostly just want better dampening.
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:24 PM   #591
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I'm back at IAG. They are looking over my alignment and doing some other things also.
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do these have rear camber adjustability? Or will i need arms or bushings..
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do these have rear camber adjustability? Or will i need arms or bushings..
You will need arms, I wouldn't do bushings.
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What does caster have to do w the coils. Coils change your camber shouldnt mess w your caster unless you went -2.5+ i achieved that but fixed it after being so sunk and tucking.

I dont think you can alter your caster if you dont have the ALK. I have it all.

Caster changes your control arm angle moving it forward and back. 6.5 is the norm on alignment
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What does caster have to do w the coils. Coils change your camber shouldnt mess w your caster unless you went -2.5+ i achieved that but fixed it after being so sunk and tucking.

I dont think you can alter your caster if you dont have the ALK. I have it all.

Caster changes your control arm angle moving it forward and back. 6.5 is the norm on alignment
Who said caster?
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:37 PM   #596
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Dude...

1. No one said anything about caster.

2. Coilovers CAN affect caster. By moving the position of the upper mount point at the camber plates. Caster is the angle (fore and aft) of the spring/shock. Which can be adjusted by moving the bottom (LCA) or the top (camber plate)
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Referring to a post on pg.59.

I dont have camber plates didnt want them. Went w whiteline com-c easier.

I was at -2.6 to -2.3 w a caster of 8 and 7.4

I have the alk so i would know. I left them stock and they are adjustable but i never touched them myself.

You cant move the lca. You can move them up and down but not back and forth w/o the ALK.
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Old 09-15-2013, 05:19 PM   #598
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Referring to a post on pg.59.

I dont have camber plates didnt want them. Went w whiteline com-c easier.

I was at -2.6 to -2.3 w a caster of 8 and 7.4

I have the alk so i would know. I left them stock and they are adjustable but i never touched them myself.

You cant move the lca. You can move them up and down but not back and forth w/o the ALK.
Pg59....? This thread is only on pg12! Haha everybody can change the posts per page so referencing a page is useless. Anytime you want to reference something, use either post number or quote it.

Secondly, com-c tops are camber AND caster adding. Mine are adding about .6 of caster right now. It just depends on how you orient them.

If you look at the top of the strut, depending on where the center of that nut sits can change both camber and caster. If you move them in towards the engine or out towards the fenders you will get more negative or positive camber respectively. If you move them forward towards the bumper or rearward towards the firewall you will decrease or increase caster respectively. Go Google caster measurement and have a look at some diagrams and stuff if you're still unclear.

Also, because the feal 441 coilovers come with camber plates, you can modify both of these settings rather easily. Hope that helps...
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:57 PM   #599
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Just got mine not too long ago. I'll do a more detailed review once I use them for a few more daily trips to work. As of now, I have my front 12 from hard and rear 9 from hard for track and the default 15/15 for daily driving on the crappy new jersey roads.

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Alright, so after using these coils I have to say I'm highly impressed for how well they work for a >$1500 DD coilover. Currently, I have these coilovers 1.5" lower than stock (the preset Odi sends them at) and I also have 24f/22r whiteline sway bars (front hard, rear medium) w/ kartboy endlinks and the whiteline RCA kit. I'm running 2 degrees of camber front and rear currently with zero toe all around and the dampening is still at 18f/21r. I take route 17 (up in NY) to interstate 87 everyday on my way to work and for those of you who don't live in the tri-state area, these roads have been under construction so the roads are sub-par at best. My dampening is set up to perform better in well-paved twisties, but even on the highway and pothole infested roads, these coils keep the car from bouncing all over the place. With my OEM setup, everytime I would hit a bump the car would steer in a random direction and freak the other commuters out because they all assumed I was driving drunk or something...

Since I have installed and aligned my WRX, I have driven over every type of road surface at a multitude of speeds to test how the coilovers would react. Now I'm able to tear through turns with confidence as I let my EWG scream, comfortably cruise as I drive to work through the sea of commuters, and the best part is... none of my friends notice I installed stiffer suspension parts until I drive the car like an a**hat

Just as a warning - make sure to check the orientation of the camber plates on the fronts. Odi accidentally shipped the coilovers to me with the plates switched and I had to swap them before installing (not a big deal).

Setup:
-Feal 441 coilovers (8k/8k)
-24f/22r Whiteline sway bars (front stiff, rear medium)
-Kartboy endlinks, front and rear
-Whiteline Roll Center Adjustment kit (made a huuuge difference in front geometry when lowering more than an inch)
-dampening 18f/21r track, 15f/15r DD
-Whiteline steering rack bushings (will install this weekend)

Rears (stock vs feal 441):


I'll throw up some more pics later when I get home from work.... My POS env3 cell phone isn't the best at taking pics.

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Pg59....? This thread is only on pg12!
Page 59 is the n00b setting
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