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Old 01-21-2013, 10:58 PM   #201
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Feal: I sent you a PM a few days ago.

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for those of us who were early adopters that have your "original" 441 design, can we exchange our camber plates for the fixed design you have now?
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Would be curious about this as well, I was rather confused when I went for an alignment and all they could squeeze out was -1.4 camber upfront.

Made me question the tech doing the alignment, until I did some research.
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+1 I would be willing to swap mine out.
I don't have an '08+ but I'm bumping this for these guys above to see what Feal will do for them.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:37 PM   #202
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Has anyone had Feal rebuild/upgrade their BC (or other Taiwanese) coilovers? I'm considering having them rebuild my BC's whenever the time comes and would like to hear if anyone has gone through this process.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:45 PM   #203
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I'm really interested in these coilovers but I'm still waiting on feedback about the max neg. camber that you can get out of these. I'm doing 6 to 10 Autocross events a season so adjustability is important to me. I'm looking to get around -3 neg. front camber. So if anyone installed these on a 2004 WRX please give some feedback about this issue.

Odi ... did the new updated camber plate solved this issue for the 2004 WRX chassis as well?

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Old 01-30-2013, 06:24 PM   #204
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Hey guys,

A little info on the 08+wrx update. In order to get more negative camber in the front, we shifted the holes in the front lower brackets. The camber plates have not changed.

We will always continue to update our products and services, and the updated parts will be available for purchase. For those that absolutely want more negative camber, we can modify your lower bracket free of charge (customer is responsible for shipping fees).

If at any time we do not respond quickly enough via NASIOC, please feel free to email or call us.

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:12 AM   #205
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Feal customers,

I have just installed my 441 coilovers and must say they are quite a nice piece and upgrade.

I am still fine tuning the adjustments for street use, and I am curious to what settings other people ride around on for daily commute and track use.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:47 AM   #206
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I have just installed my 441 coilovers and must say they are quite a nice piece and upgrade.
Have any pictures?
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:54 AM   #207
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Only picture worth posting, crappy cell phone pic

They came very well shipped, and speedy service from California to South Carolina



After the install. Install was easy and straight forward. My car was a PITA because its from the north and bolts were rusty.

I have the settings 12 and 10 front and rear respectively from full soft. The car is on rails it handles so well. I may adjust it down some more for a more comfortable ride. Feels great now around town but has a noticeable little bounce on the highway.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:54 PM   #208
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Odi/Feal. Should I expect that these coilovers will require yearly rebuilds to maintain ride quality and performance?
anyone answer this?
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:07 PM   #209
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anyone answer this?
You do not need to rebuild the dampers yearly. Keep in mind that we recommend servicing monotube shocks every 30K miles. This does not mean that it is necesary.

To recap, rebuilds cost only $75 per corner for the original owner. This includes new seals, bushings, orings, fluid, nitrogen, and labor. Typical turn around time for this is only a couple of business days .
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:58 PM   #210
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good to hear!

but there are those that drive upwards of 30k a year haha. i think ive been averaging about 26-27k/year since i bought my car 3 years ago.

but at the same time, i will now have separate winter and summer suspensions. so itll be less for my future use.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:28 AM   #211
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but there are those that drive upwards of 30k a year haha. i think ive been averaging about 26-27k/year since i bought my car 3 years ago.
Drive less?
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:25 PM   #212
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i love driving though

80mi/day round trip for work
frequent trips to W.MD and WV to see friends
frequent trips to NOVA and DC to see the gf.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:01 AM   #213
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good to hear!

but there are those that drive upwards of 30k a year haha. i think ive been averaging about 26-27k/year since i bought my car 3 years ago.

but at the same time, i will now have separate winter and summer suspensions. so itll be less for my future use.
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i love driving though
I'm a little similar. I drive a fair amount of miles every year.

My opinion is that most of the reason these performance companies say that so much maintenance is necessary is to maintain such a high level of performance. Not that they will necessarily leak oil or lose all damping ability.

I have coilovers designed for motorsport use and it is recommended that the struts be regreased every 500 competitive km (approx 310miles).
As for the insert it is generally recommended that they are sent back to be dyno'd every race season (once a year).

I pulled the strut casing off at about 10,000km (6,200miles) and they were completely full of grease, and it was clean with no contaminants.
They were also sent back to the manufacturer just after this to have additional features added to the inserts. There was no noticeable wear and nothing needed to be replaced.
I'm now up to about 20,000km (12,500miles) since I got them back. I'll be regreasing the strut case at about 30,000km and probably send them back to be dyno'd at about 50,000km (or 12 months).

I'm willing to bet that even OEM shocks would show a difference on the dyno from new to 50,000km.
My point is that ALL shocks will degrade over time. It's just a matter of how important the performance of a shock really is to you, that will determine how often you service it.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:29 PM   #214
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Well today iwent up to creastline via the 18 and then the 138 to silver wood lake. Wow I am so impressed with the way my car handled with this setup. I tried to push it and it was just so planted and neutral. My buddy in his 911/991 was following and his comment after the drive was "your car just did what mine did for 1/3 of the price"


Thank you Odi!
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:06 PM   #215
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How much does revalving cost?
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:13 PM   #216
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How much does revalving cost?
check out the feal website and/or call odi for unconventional setup details.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:45 PM   #217
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check out the feal website and/or call odi for unconventional setup details.
Awesome, Thanks!
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Old 02-25-2013, 11:59 PM   #218
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Just a update on the feal 441 coilovers on my 07 sti. I was one of the first to order and install them last spring and have 15000 miles on them my car is used as a dd for my wife and i use it on the weekends and autocrossing it. I have had great luck with them and run 17 clicks out front and rear for dd and 1.5 camber and 7 front and 10 rear for autocrossing wit the same camber. We get alot of our roads salted in the winter and everything looks and works great still no corrosion at all. I am super happy with the coilovers and would recommend them to anyone looked for a better around car.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:52 AM   #219
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Just a update on the feal 441 coilovers on my 07 sti. I was one of the first to order and install them last spring and have 15000 miles on them my car is used as a dd for my wife and i use it on the weekends and autocrossing it. I have had great luck with them and run 17 clicks out front and rear for dd and 1.5 camber and 7 front and 10 rear for autocrossing wit the same camber. We get alot of our roads salted in the winter and everything looks and works great still no corrosion at all. I am super happy with the coilovers and would recommend them to anyone looked for a better around car.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:00 PM   #220
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Just a update on the feal 441 coilovers on my 07 sti. I was one of the first to order and install them last spring and have 15000 miles on them my car is used as a dd for my wife and i use it on the weekends and autocrossing it. I have had great luck with them and run 17 clicks out front and rear for dd and 1.5 camber and 7 front and 10 rear for autocrossing wit the same camber. We get alot of our roads salted in the winter and everything looks and works great still no corrosion at all. I am super happy with the coilovers and would recommend them to anyone looked for a better around car.
Much appreciated feedback.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:09 AM   #221
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Just a update on the feal 441 coilovers on my 07 sti. I was one of the first to order and install them last spring and have 15000 miles on them my car is used as a dd for my wife and i use it on the weekends and autocrossing it. I have had great luck with them and run 17 clicks out front and rear for dd and 1.5 camber and 7 front and 10 rear for autocrossing wit the same camber. We get alot of our roads salted in the winter and everything looks and works great still no corrosion at all. I am super happy with the coilovers and would recommend them to anyone looked for a better around car.
I assume those are clicks from full stiff?
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:20 PM   #222
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This needs a bump.

I want to see more pictures!
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:43 PM   #223
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I agree I plan on getting em in apr can't wait
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Old 03-16-2013, 10:48 PM   #224
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I agree I plan on getting em in apr can't wait
Who are you purchasing them from? Just curious.
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:35 PM   #225
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update: 3 months later ~aprox 1500 miles

i got new tires - Michelin Pilot Super Sports - to replace some rather old BFGoodrich Sport Comp-1s and with the increased grip levels, the coilovers shine even more.

the extra NVH from the pillowballs does take getting used to, as well as when the spring/spring top collars slam/clunk under big bumps. but i assume thats common on all coilovers.
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