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Old 01-16-2012, 03:23 PM   #1
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Default Too many options, help me choose!!

I would like some input on some options, I currently have a 05 wrx hatch with 125,000 miles and I am looking to get a sti. This would be my daily driver unless persuaded otherwise.

I am looking to spend around $45,000 on the car and upgrades.


Questions;

What is the best year for the sti and why?

I'm not concerned about the year just what will be the best option, I will be swapping out most of the parts anyway. It might come down to aesthetics.

Should I keep my wrx, do an engine swap, many other things and by a cheap commuter car?

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Should I wait for the 2013 sti?



Basically I am asking what would you do?
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:56 PM   #2
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Lol, didn't we already have a simular post like this? Go look it up and read it.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:12 PM   #3
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I did read the other similar thread and have been following it, it doesn't help me with my situation. I know excatly what I would do when I find the right car.
I didn't already a 2012, I want to explore all the options from 2004-2013.
Should I buy a sti or swap my 05 wrx?
What is your favorite year and why?
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:26 PM   #4
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My next car will be a 2011 STI. For several reasons:

-Everything I've done to my current car has made it into a somewhat STI
-LOVE the usefulness of the hatch, plus 'datass'
-Newer, less use/salt corrosion
-Swaps don't tend to be as reliable

This is all my opinion though. I know someone will get on here and say that their boyfriend's cousin's grandma's grandson's swap has been running great for 800,000 miles. But, meh, I just want something that was built to be what it is and not make it into something it isn't.

For a DD, just get something newer, do some mild bolt-ons and suspension work and enjoy it. For a not-so-DD go bat**** crazy on it!
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #5
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Well it really comes down to what you like the look and price of. I would say any STi 2005 and above would be great, with the 08+ getting a major chassis and suspension change you are getting a "better" car, but in reality it just comes down to what you like.


Rumor is that the 2013 will be much more hardcore for the STi, might be worth waiting for, but we never know until they actually release it.
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:24 PM   #6
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I wouldn't get the 2013. Just because of how it no longer is an Impreza.
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:29 PM   #7
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Get an EVO 9
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:41 PM   #8
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I'm not looking to purchase right away I would like to see what the 2013 will be. Dose anyone know when specs on 2013 could be released?
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Old 01-16-2012, 07:48 PM   #9
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:10 PM   #10
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:32 PM   #11
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If you want an STI, you should opt for the Version 5 sti ra. Otherwise buy a better car.
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:34 PM   #12
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I'm not looking to purchase right away I would like to see what the 2013 will be. Dose anyone know when specs on 2013 could be released?
Specs for 2013 STI
Vf2671r turbo
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:52 PM   #13
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M5 or isf
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Old 01-16-2012, 09:44 PM   #14
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I'm not looking to purchase right away I would like to see what the 2013 will be. Dose anyone know when specs on 2013 could be released?
-____- look it up
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:47 PM   #15
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M5 or isf
The Isf seems like such an unrewarding car to drive.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:29 AM   #16
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I appreciate everyone's opinion on other cars but, I want to own another Subaru, for the following reasons;

-AWD FTW
-Base price is well below 60k (isf and m5 are not)
-Ease of upgrades

For 45k I can build an sti with close to 400whp and still have it be my dd. I love to drive dirt roads and want a rally car that will preform on dirt.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:57 AM   #17
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Yes and An Evo satisfies all of your requirements and will be a thousand times more fun than a Subaru. Easier to modify, more receptive to modification, same price as a Subaru to buy, won't have catastrophic understeer, AND you don't have to live knowing that flatbillers will be ruining the brand of the car.

EDIT: Also, 400whp is going to be pretty high maintenance as a DD. An Evo can do 400 whp all day and do it on the stock long block. If you use high quality parts, getting to 400 wheel will probably gobble up the rest of your $45k assuming you use a newer chassis.

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Old 01-17-2012, 11:17 AM   #18
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Trust me, I love Subarus just as much as the next guy, but I can also appreciate that there are cars that DO perform better and are more efficient than a Subaru. Yes Subies do have qualities that no other cars can match, but when I buy a new car you better believe I will try a different brand. It would be like, your getting poon from a hot girl but she is kind of lame in the sack, But you keep doing her because you think she is the best, all the while your friends are having the time of thier lives doing even hotter and way crazier ladies in bed. Get my drift?
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #19
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I think my problem is that I love my current wrx and have a hard time looking outside of the Subaru brand. I think I need to do some deep research on Evos and others alike.

I don't want to just blow 45k and not be satisfied.
My objectives are AWD, 400+whp, and possibly a dd.
If I can find a good buy and spend 40k then I can get a cheap commuter car as well.

I'm think this will be more of a toy than a car I rely on.
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See what the 2013 STI will be and if you like it go for it. 400whp on an STI is fine, don't want to go much higher than that though. This would be my priority list if I were in your situation.

2013 STI (If it's badass when it gets released)
if not
2011/12 STI Sedan, make 400whp easier and can fit wider wheels/tires
Then
2007 STI for the better transmission
Then
Any STI you can get your hands on for a good deal
Then
Swap your WRX
last ditch effort
Buy an EVO, complain about how ****ty it's built and cheap the interior feels, mod it and throw the #3 rod just like everyone else who mods one. I know people are going to post up that they know someone who has an evo with xxxwhp and a bunch-ton of miles with no problems. But this has been my experience with 4 EVOs all in different years.
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Don't buy an evo... Stick with subies...
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:30 PM   #22
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Evo = discontinued. I have nothing against them personally though.

I also don't think either evo or sti is necessarily leaps and bounds better than the other.

get what you like the look of. If you are going to mod it they all end up the same.
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EVO STOCK = PROS: front mount, twinscroll turbo, less understeer, more power from bolt ons.

CONS: ugly tail lights, prone to rod failure at higher horsepower levels, higher insurance, crap interior

SUBARU STOCK = PROS: beautiful sounds, better interior, bullet proof transmission (STI)

CONS: heat soaked top mount, single scroll turbo with horrible headers for rapid spool, understeers like a mofo.
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Buy an EVO, complain about how ****ty it's built and cheap the interior feels, mod it and throw the #3 rod just like everyone else who mods one. I know people are going to post up that they know someone who has an evo with xxxwhp and a bunch-ton of miles with no problems. But this has been my experience with 4 EVOs all in different years.
Because subaru interiors are built so well, especially the 2nd gens
Also like how when you mod a subaru you WILL destroy a ringland. If you go beyond a reflash, it's going to happen.

I've dumped more money than i'm comfortable sharing into my car, and it still doesn't make 400whp, it still has mediocre handling, and it still plows dangerously wide through corners if you don't get the entry speed just right.

If i could do it all over again, i would buy an evo. That is to say i stay with AWD, which i wouldn't.
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See what the 2013 STI will be and if you like it go for it. 400whp on an STI is fine, don't want to go much higher than that though. This would be my priority list if I were in your situation.

2013 STI (If it's badass when it gets released)
if not
2011/12 STI Sedan, make 400whp easier and can fit wider wheels/tires
Then
2007 STI for the better transmission
Then
Any STI you can get your hands on for a good deal
Then
Swap your WRX
last ditch effort
Buy an EVO, complain about how ****ty it's built and cheap the interior feels, mod it and throw the #3 rod just like everyone else who mods one. I know people are going to post up that they know someone who has an evo with xxxwhp and a bunch-ton of miles with no problems. But this has been my experience with 4 EVOs all in different years.
This approach is by far my favorite. I have too much brand loyalty to abandon Subaru.
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