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Old 01-18-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Has anyone use G oil 5W30 in there engine?

I want to try this biodegradable oil. I read great reviews on it and wanted to see if anyone had some extra input on the subject.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:26 PM   #2
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ok...

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there are NO 5w30 oils available that are worth a **** other than just a couple very high $$$ 'boutique' oils that arent worth buying, anyway

do ya wanna spin a bearing now or later or not at all????

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Old 01-18-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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Calm down and read up on this stuff. There are alot of great reviews on it and I also was looking for an opinion from some one who has used it not some one who doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #4
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Calm down and read up on this stuff. There are alot of great reviews on it and I also was looking for an opinion from some one who has used it not some one who doesn't know what he is talking about.
One thing that Uncle scotty has said over and over is that with a turbo engine like the one in your car puts the oil through much more heat and there for if you start with a 5w30 it will shear to a 5w20 which is NOT good for a turbo engine or bearings for that matter. That's why the shell rotella T-6 5w40 is producing such great results along with some other 5w40 oils due to their additive package and more robust construction. Now for an NA engine, then it probably would be fine for that application.
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:21 PM   #5
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I've seen G 5W30 at Wal-Mart. This oil doesn't meet the energy conserving spec.

5W30 is not the end all like Uncle Scotty thinks. The issue with 5W30 is often faster oil consumption than some other weights that often have better NOACK volatility.

No one will admit they spun a bearing because they didn't keep tabs on oil consumption. I never see anyone check their oil in my neighborhood, do you?

The owners manual does state to use thicker oils in certain conditions however.
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:43 PM   #6
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There is some data on it in the voa forum at bitog and the metallic additive pack is not that impressive. Maybe this stuff gets super anti-wear properties from the beef fat, I don't know. Even the "Race" version isn't that robust. There has not been any data from a turbo vehicle that I'm aware of.

And be careful throwing around the word biodegradable. That's before it goes into an engine and there are people that do not realize this and think you can just drain the oil in your driveway.

Here's a virgin oil analysis on the street oil:
http://205.243.146.146/forums/ubbthr...2342666&page=1

The race oil has nano geodesic bearings whatever that is. Here's the virgin oil analysis on the race oil with some comments from a tribologist.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...17#Post2143217

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Old 01-25-2012, 04:29 AM   #7
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I've seen G 5W30 at Wal-Mart. This oil doesn't meet the energy conserving spec.

5W30 is not the end all like Uncle Scotty thinks. The issue with 5W30 is often faster oil consumption than some other weights that often have better NOACK volatility.

No one will admit they spun a bearing because they didn't keep tabs on oil consumption. I never see anyone check their oil in my neighborhood, do you?

The owners manual does state to use thicker oils in certain conditions however.
d0000000000000d.....one HUGE issue is that most 5w30m oils just are not robust enough to withstand the turbo ej engine and they get sucked through the pcv system and they cause those issues

MOST

now....the only ones that will NOT shear out of grade for SURE are the real synthetic ester based ones...which cost too much, anyway


so...in the end....there is no good or compelling reason WHAT SO EVER TO USE ANY 5W30 OIL IN ANY EVENT OR CAUSE.

and jjust doing THAT simple thing will help make sure you arent :gru mpy:

when the spun bearing fairy visits you
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There is some data on it in the voa forum at bitog and the metallic additive pack is not that impressive. Maybe this stuff gets super anti-wear properties from the beef fat, I don't know. Even the "Race" version isn't that robust. ..........-Dennis
I remember reading a thread at bitog in which someone provided evidence that the 5w30 had a HTHS vis of 3.5, which is semi-impressive.
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I want to try this biodegradable oil. .......
You better hurry, they may be out of business soon. Rebates end Jan 31.

"Due to the Company’s limited capital, recurring losses and negative cash flows from operations, and the Company’s limited ability to pay outstanding liabilities, there is substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern."

"The Company has relied upon cash from financing activities to fund its ongoing operations as it has not been able to generate sufficient cash from operating activities and there is no assurance that it will be able to do so in the future. The Company cannot predict how long it will continue to incur further losses or whether it will ever become profitable, or if its business will improve."

"The decrease in salaries is due to the resignation of our former chief executive officer in May 2011 and our former president and chief operating officer in September 2010."
(Note: Their founder and former president and chief operating officer also resigned in 2009 and filed suit.)

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If that HTHS is true (and you don't have confirmation from GET ), that's too bad because the cow fat oil might actually be good stuff. But what can you expect from a company that paid a LOT of money for API certification and gave away their oil for free after rebates?

If anyone wants a robust, proven bio-based oil from an oil company that has been around for a while check out http://www.renewablelube.com/

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If that HTHS is true (and you don't have confirmation from GET ), that's too bad because the cow fat oil might actually be good stuff. But what can you expect from a company that paid a LOT of money for API certification and gave away their oil for free after rebates?

If anyone wants a robust, proven bio-based oil from an oil company that has been around for a while check out http://www.renewablelube.com/

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This ^^^ looks to be a good oil from the info!
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............If anyone wants a robust, proven bio-based oil from an oil company that has been around for a while check out http://www.renewablelube.com/

-Dennis
I like the RLI oils (I'm using their 75W90), but their shipping & handling costs an arm and a leg.
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Thanks for the info. I tried it and it seems to be running smooth. I'll post how it looks in 1000 miles.
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