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Old 01-19-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default Any word on the 2013 WRX?

I've read that the WRX/STI will be its own model based on a shortened version of the new Impreza platform. Many sources seem to indicate it will be considerably smaller than the Impreza (possibly in the subcompact category).

I'm considering a new WRX 5-door but knowing a new WRX is around the corner, it would be nice to get the "latest and greatest". BUT, if it is going to be considerably smaller, I don't think it will work for this family man (2 kids). I'll be doing good to talk the wife into the size of the current car!

Any good solid information out there yet? Should I get one of the last "big" WRXs while I still can?
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:43 PM   #2
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News & Rumors isn't for creating threads for asking questions.

To answer yours, however, purchasing a WRX has never really been about family first. It's nice, but most people get a turbo-charged Forester if they're THAT concerned with family and space.

Trust me, I know from experience. The performance of the WRX is the main reason you get one, otherwise get a Forester XT and call it a day unless you're dead set on a manual transmission.

My other argument is that if you get a 2012 WRX hatch NOW, when the new 2014+ WRX comes out you probably won't mind trading up for a 2014 or 2015 at that point if it is that appealing.

It hasn't stopped people with 2009-2010 WRX from trading up to 2011-2012 WRX, even though it's the same, damn vehicle.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:17 PM   #3
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there is rumor that the new brz 2.0 ltr engine will be the new platform for the new wrx with direct injection. I'm still happy I got my 2011wrx 2.5ltr ftw!
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:32 PM   #4
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News & Rumors isn't for creating threads for asking questions.

To answer yours, however, purchasing a WRX has never really been about family first. It's nice, but most people get a turbo-charged Forester if they're THAT concerned with family and space.

Trust me, I know from experience. The performance of the WRX is the main reason you get one, otherwise get a Forester XT and call it a day unless you're dead set on a manual transmission.

My other argument is that if you get a 2012 WRX hatch NOW, when the new 2014+ WRX comes out you probably won't mind trading up for a 2014 or 2015 at that point if it is that appealing.

It hasn't stopped people with 2009-2010 WRX from trading up to 2011-2012 WRX, even though it's the same, damn vehicle.
I've got to disagree. Though I wish it were just a bit bigger to accomodate a dog crate big enough to hold large dog, our 2002 WRX Sportwagon has worked for our family quite well. i'm not interested in the auto tranny or high ride that the current Forester offers. An XTI (Forester STI) would be perfect.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:49 PM   #5
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My apologies for posting in the wrong section. I'm not after maximum utility but the performance/sport factor of the WRX but still room for comfortably fitting two kids and some "stuff". My wife and I currently each have a crossover SUV but there is no reason we BOTH need one. If we are both going somewhere, with both kids, for an extended stay where we need big-time luggage space, we'll take her car. We need one vehicle capable of doing that...not two. I want something with good power, good looks, good handling, and all-weather capability. The WRX is on my short list. The Forester, while no doubt a very nice car, just isn't what I'm going for.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:17 PM   #6
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The WRX is a great family vehicle for someone who wants a sporty drive. The Forester isn't quite the same. I say go ahead and get an 09-12 model. The first year of a redesign can have problems, and you'll never buy a car if you wait until next year for something better - something better is always on the horizon.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:25 PM   #7
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I've got to disagree. Though I wish it were just a bit bigger to accomodate a dog crate big enough to hold large dog, our 2002 WRX Sportwagon has worked for our family quite well. i'm not interested in the auto tranny or high ride that the current Forester offers. An XTI (Forester STI) would be perfect.
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My apologies for posting in the wrong section. I'm not after maximum utility but the performance/sport factor of the WRX but still room for comfortably fitting two kids and some "stuff". My wife and I currently each have a crossover SUV but there is no reason we BOTH need one. If we are both going somewhere, with both kids, for an extended stay where we need big-time luggage space, we'll take her car. We need one vehicle capable of doing that...not two. I want something with good power, good looks, good handling, and all-weather capability. The WRX is on my short list. The Forester, while no doubt a very nice car, just isn't what I'm going for.
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The WRX is a great family vehicle for someone who wants a sporty drive. The Forester isn't quite the same. I say go ahead and get an 09-12 model. The first year of a redesign can have problems, and you'll never buy a car if you wait until next year for something better - something better is always on the horizon.
I'm not really sure which part WRX4US disagrees on. I'm aware that a pre-2008 WRX wagon has more CARGO space than the hatch, but the newer WRX has more PASSENGER volume. The Forester is a lot more comfortable for passengers. My friend has a 2009 Forester Limited and I have a 2011 WRX Limited. A Forester has more usable space all around, but you're stuck with an auto. That's why I mentioned that if you're going for performance, get the WRX. A Forester XTi Limited WOULD be perfect.

I agree that something "better" is always on the horizon. It's kind of the perk with a small company constantly trying to adjust to it's customer base. They have that flexibility.

Since you already own an SUV, just get the current WRX. It has a lot more aftermarket parts available for use, especially the hatchback.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:47 PM   #8
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There will still be 2012s by the time we have a good idea what the 2013 will look like, so why not just wait?
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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There will still be 2012s by the time we have a good idea what the 2013 will look like, so why not just wait?
Good point. How long did we wait for the changes for 2012's to be confirmed? It took a long time, almost last minute before we saw anything, and it went to Canada first. If the 2013 is different then we'll know at least by mid-summer. Otherwise if you're waiting for cosmetic changes from 2012-2013 you'll probably end up waiting until late this year before anything is confirmed.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:58 PM   #10
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New WRX is always unveiled at the NYIAS around Easter. So just wait till April. Either the MY13 is the same, or all-new.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:15 PM   #11
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I have had a 2002 wagon, an 2008 and 2011, All have traveled my family relatively comfortably for trips up to 2 1/2 hrs. My family includes my wife, my sons, both are 6'2". My daughter-in-law even crammed in for a few trips. I'm not saying it wasn't tight but they were all able to fall asleep.

I would say that they are much more comfortable for two people, especially on long trips.

From what I have read/heard, the next WRX/WRX STI will be based on a shortened Impreza frame, be powered by either a 1.6 or 2.0 and produce somewhere in the 300HP range for the STI. It has also been said that it will be a coupe...but not the BRZ STI which, if it happens, will be an entirely different car. Search around. There is a lot of info out there. Find the video for the introduction of the BRZ at the LA auto show, go to almost the end and watch. The Subaru rep talks about the next WRX/WRX STI

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Old 01-20-2012, 12:15 AM   #12
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how come no one is recommending the Legacy GT as a sporty family car? Isn't that what it was suppose to be or is there something wrong with the Legacy that I don't know of?
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:25 AM   #13
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how come no one is recommending the Legacy GT as a sporty family car? Isn't that what it was suppose to be or is there something wrong with the Legacy that I don't know of?
I'm thinking the suspension/handling on the legacy isn't tight enough to be considered as "sporty", as that's what I'd imagine is the determining factor people look at in sporty cars. I'm a big fan of the Legacy Spec B, but these are a whole 'nother class of car. Nicer interior/quality for sure though.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:06 AM   #14
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jackrbt- ive been patrolling the internet on the new wrx myself and like the others said no real info yet except the thing about it no longer being an impreza platform (i dont remember it being a shortened impreza platform) and then there was a picture that said wrx 2.0 (think it was la auto show) beyond that nothing substantial. i was hoping there would be info at the recent north american auto show (detroit) but i think theyre keeping the spotlight on the brz for a while. were close so id wait out til atleast the 13 infos out to make a decision. oh yeah and the wrx is a great family car. imo
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:13 AM   #15
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how come no one is recommending the Legacy GT as a sporty family car? Isn't that what it was suppose to be or is there something wrong with the Legacy that I don't know of?
I think there would be a lot more talk about it if they had a wagon version. As it is, a WRX hatch has more utility than a larger sedan. And the Outback of course has the utility, but not the sport.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:49 AM   #16
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Motor Trend recently wrapped up a long-term test of a Legacy GT. I had also considered one of these. MT did not have glowing reviews of the car, particularly the transmission. I know that's one group of people's opinion and I should probably try driving one myself (if I can find one) but it does lose a lot of the "sport" factor compared to the WRX. It's not a bad-looking car at all but I wouldn't call it sporty.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:04 AM   #17
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New WRX is always unveiled at the NYIAS around Easter. So just wait till April. Either the MY13 is the same, or all-new.
Nice piece of information, I can wait until Easter.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:30 AM   #18
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Look here around the 10:15 mark...


Or From Motor Trend...


We know this because Subaru president Ikuo Mori said at a recent shareholder’s meeting: “We will launch a new sporty car in 2014.”

“Apart from a few nuts and bolts, every part on the WRX will be unique. Even the engine and body. Obviously the WRX’s platform will be inherited from the new Impreza, but it will be radically modified and significantly shortened,” says our source.

"The first thing you must understand about our all-new WRX is that we have developed it from the ground up to win in motorsports events. That's why we have focused so heavily on weight issues, not to mention a shorter wheelbase that permits faster, more precise turn-in. Marry that to our proven AWD system, and we think we have a winner,"

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz1k0emi8Ko


Personally, I don't think much will be leaked until after the initial buying surge of the BRZ. Marketing wise it isn't smart to start doing a lot of talking about a new, arguably better, faster coupe(rumored), until after the introduction of your current one.

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Marketing wise it isn't smart to start doing a lot of talking about a new, arguably better, faster coupe(rumored), until after the introduction of your current one.
If that is true, and this means there will be no WRX or STI (4 door) hatches, then this will be the last Subaru for me.
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If that is true, and this means there will be no WRX or STI (4 door) hatches, then this will be the last Subaru for me.

If that's the case, it might be for me too (sigh).
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There's no way they'd get rid of the hatch/wagon WRX, but it seems as though you may have to figure out just how important size is to your lifestyle in place of performance.
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I get the feeling that there might be a 3-door hatch, not unlike the Citroen DS3 or Peugout 206/307 or Ford Fiesta.
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It's possible that once the WRX downsizes that Subaru will focus on the XT and GT trims of their other models to help compensate, or will (finally) bring STI versions of them. That would make sense to me.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:54 PM   #24
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There is room to downsize without going to 3-door only. The Mini and Skoda rally in that size with 5-doors.

I can deal with a smaller car, but I want a 5-door. My Saabaru is 7 years old with 120k on it, and it will be due for replacement sooner rather than later. I think it would be silly for Subaru to abandon the sport wagon segment it's done so well with.
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I guess I am in the minority that would LOVE a 3-door hatch.

Truth be told, when I bought my new bugeye WRX back in the day, had a Focus RS (turbo/AWD) been available, I might currently be on Focusfanatics.com... .
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