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Old 02-13-2012, 04:01 AM   #26
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:00 AM   #27
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed! Makes me want to go buy and begin welding up things. I really love the v-bands, makes install a breeze.

Where do you purchase your supplys?
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #28
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i was pretty worried when i started reading this thread today
attempting a ez30r with a stock can bus ecu then bad holes in the firewall ...

but after seeing the exhaust work .. not worried good work

are you going to try and make the legacy abs controller work in the forester? i was under the impression it was needed due to no VSS
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:29 AM   #29
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Very impressive.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:54 PM   #30
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yes i will need to get the right abs controller with the speed signal output, and yeah the holes in the firewall were a bit rough, I did cut some steel plate to fit better and welded that in so it doesn't look too bad right now, cant remember if i took pics of that yet.

pacobeagle: I got some of the 1.5" tubing from ebay, also there is a place i found online called stainlessheaders.com and from them I got the 13 degree bends for the merge collectors as well as the header flanges, they already had a pattern for the ez30r engine, which was convenient.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:05 PM   #31
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Here are some pics of the "finished interior" and by finished i mean most of the parts are in and fit decently well. not perfect but doing anymore with the interior is another project in itself





glove box fitment


JDM double din with dual zone climate controls


spec b instrument cluster


I did have to weld on some new dash mounts, and trim the HVAC box and blower motor box, but otherwise I am really supprised how well the legacy parts fit into the forester chassis.

Also currently I dont have the airbag system, abs, tire pressure monitors, and a couple other small things from the legacy, they wont be hard to add just need a little more time and better weather. Winter has finally come to kansas
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:17 PM   #32
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Now all that was left was to get the engine running on the OEM ECU. Before I started this project I was debating which engine to go with sti turbo or the H6. Well i found a JDM H6 for 1500 and so that made up my mind on going with the EZ30R.

Knowing the issues about getting past the immobilizer I had not made up my mind on wether to do full standalone or attempt oem. Staying oem and swapping the legacy interior parts had its draw as I did want an updated interior. But would it work?

After talking to the local subaru dealer about reprogramming the immobilizer, I knew I wanted to try and find a matching set of the immobilizer components so ECM, BIU, key, and ignition cylinder. Since the USA never had the H6 availible with a manual transmission I was not sure If the ECM would be looking for the auto trans.

while browsing ebay uk I came across a seller that had listed a nav unit for the uk 3.0r spec b. I emailed him and asked If they could supply all the components to run the engine, they did so I decided to take a chance and secured that deal. So now that i had what I thought would be a plug and play unit to run the engine.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:49 PM   #33
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The benefits to the uk ECU
-matched with a maunal transmission
-uk doesnt have fuel evaporative systems
-it came with matching BIU and key

Downsides
-ecu pinout was different
- uk legacy had some different options never offered in the us


So about 2 weeks ago my wiring was at the point where I could attempt to start the engine, I really was just wanting to verify that i had the wiring correct. Well the engine started but promptly died and would lock out the starter.
Apparently something was not right with my "matched set of components" This means I would have to go into subaru to see if they could even reprogram the UK electronics.

One issue that was giving me problems was with the UK BIU the uk legacy had a double door lock system and the BIU was looking for 5 wires coming off the lock actuators. Taking another chance I purchased a used BIU from a US spec 07 legacy outback manual trans. This fixed my door lock issues but would it work with the UK ecu and keys.

Last thursday I had scheduled with subaru to try and reprogram the immobilizer system. I gave them the UK vin number to pull the id codes. About an Hour later they called back saying the US system would not recognize the UK VIN. So I supplied them the VIN from the US BIU that i had purchased. With that vin they were able to pull the security and Immobilizer codes. However just before close they called saying the system just would not accept the codes and they did not know why.

It was a bit of a depressing day for sure, and I had pretty much consigned myself to the fact that I would need to go to a standalone ecu.

Well friday morning I went out to subaru to see if they could supply me with any info to trouble shoot the problem, maybe it was wiring, maybe it was a component issue. I was talking to the tech while he was trying to program the Key and the subaru select monitor would come back with a failed key registration. After thinking for a min the only part of the equations that was still UK was the key. Lucky for me someone had recently cut a key wrong so they had a new immobilizer chip to try.

Once I got the UK immobilizer chip out of the system and the US chip in the key registered and .....

well here is the results of that...
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:54 PM   #34
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:52 PM   #35
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Slightly raspy on the top end but nonetheless impressive!!!
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:08 PM   #36
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I think the exhaust cutout is causing most of the rasp as that is where i hear it really bad inside the cabin. As soon as the roads clear up a little i will get some full throttle videos its quite maniacal!. And way too much fun!
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:09 PM   #37
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Very good work, wiring can be a huge headache. Nice exhaust
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:07 PM   #38
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- Excellent ingenuity on mocking up and fabbing the headers. That's good stuff. It would take me about 8 years to do that (and that's assuming I knew how to weld, which I don't!).

- Very interesting about getting it going on a factory ECU. So in the end you ended up with UK ECU, US BIU, US key, UK ignition cylinder?

It's been a while, but I vaguely recall that the one guy who tried to go the all OEM route here on NASIOC wasn't able to find a dealership that would even touch it to reprogram everything.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:16 PM   #39
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yep it has UK ECU, US BUI, US Immobilizer chip, UK key, and UK ignition cylinder,

and I guess I got lucky the dealership here gave me no issues at all and only charged me the cost of reprogramming the key. The immobilizer chip they gave me for free since someone had cut the key on it wring. The US immobilizer chip was the same size/shape as the UK chip so I just had to swap the US one into my UK key.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:43 AM   #40
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Nice work
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:19 PM   #41
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very nice setup, you did a clean swap and this is priceless

nice headers too, im planning to do mine in spring on my gf8 eg33!
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #42
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could the raspiness be attributed to no resonator or cat in the exhaust lines?
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:55 PM   #43
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Oh it could be attributed to no cats, I do have 1 18" resonator in the system but might need another. Maybe I will get some free time this weekend to try to change up the exhaust a little bit. I have another muffler to add and I will swap the cut-out with a pipe, and see how it sounds.
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:00 PM   #44
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you mofo, this is exactly what I want to do with my gf's 98 forester L......DAMN

I've read on sf.org about how its a pain in the ass, so you sir are the man. This is my foresters wet dream every single night.


any way you can total the cost so far??

I know a lot was fabbed up by you so thats hard to adjust for...I just really want to be able to take my fozzy into a shop, get the swap and drive out a happy man with a h6 fozzy.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #45
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the wiring was definitely a pain, I used my winter break to get the swap done the mechanical stuff was easy, a couple of days max, and then there was the wiring. I wish i had bought a complete wrecked legacy h6 it would have made the swap a little easier. the wiring would still have been a pain though I spent a lot of late nights/early mornings and it seemed like i would get no where. Mostly just staring at the wires.

For cost well the engine swap stuff with the interior swap probably around 6-7k
I know what the major components cost me

1500 for the engine
500 for the seats
700 or so for the interior
650 for uk ecu/etc
prob 700 or so for exhaust components

and then all the little stuff makes your money disappear faster than you think. Very much worth it though!!
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:07 PM   #46
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Extremely impressed!!!
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #47
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here are some more exhaust videos I did today

inside cab with the cut out closed

inside cab cut out open
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:04 PM   #48
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #49
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Sounds like you need a functional tach so you can keep it off the rev limiter! And maybe a new clutch, too.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #50
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thats a yes to both, the gauges are from the legacy spec b so might just need to get the actual 3.0 spec b from the uk. and since i plan to upgrade to a sti 6 speed i am just on my stock clutch for now. It does okay for now,
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