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Old 06-12-2013, 06:19 PM   #19951
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That's not the reason you don't see more of them...whatever man, do your thing.
Is that the bestthatyoucould do?
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:29 PM   #19952
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How are your caliper covers (your design) going to be mounted? Screws? Clip on? What about cooling/heat retention of the brakes?
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:39 PM   #19953
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I might do my whole car with the sharpie paint markers not sure yet i already have sum sharpie work done over matte vinyl wrap! Check it out:
Is this what you were going for?
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:45 PM   #19954
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How are your caliper covers (your design) going to be mounted? Screws? Clip on? What about cooling/heat retention of the brakes?
We have multiple mounting options in mind. But we are leaning towards brackets that mount to existing bolt locations (which would be car specific and not very universal) or industrial strength double sided tape (which will be very universal). I know the double sided tape may make customers uneasy, but 3M claims the tape is "a proven alternative to screws, rivets, welds, etc). Only high stress and long term testing will determine that though.

Cooling and heat retention will be determined when testing. They will be completely fine or daily driving, but we are unsure about usage on a track. But based on our knowledge on heat transfer (my partner and I both engineers at PSU), it shouldn't be much of an issue. Either way, chances are most people that are tracking their cars won't be using these since they are mainly for appearance. But like I said, I can only determine cooling and heat retention from heavy testing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #19955
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Gotcha, is there like an interest list or something for when you guys get these out? I'm rather curious since I'm just a casual right-lane driver (stage-slow with only apparence mods and swaybars). Stock calipers look pretty lame, and even with mine painted black I'd still prefer a smoother look. I might be interested in a set to color match in ISM.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:14 PM   #19956
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Gotcha, is there like an interest list or something for when you guys get these out? I'm rather curious since I'm just a casual right-lane driver (stage-slow with only apparence mods and swaybars). Stock calipers look pretty lame, and even with mine painted black I'd still prefer a smoother look. I might be interested in a set to color match in ISM.
We haven't been too public yet about designing these. We just want to get most of the testing finished first because we know there's going to be those haters that are "double sided tape?! that sounds stupid, I would never use those!". I'll create a thread as soon as we get some good prototyping and quality testing finished. We will probably create a facebook page as well.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:24 PM   #19957
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Is that the bestthatyoucould do?
most original guy on this forum? literally blown away at your freshness. i want so badly to just rip into you for not actually knowing what you're talking about, as far as heat and temperatures go, but i'm not even going to go into it. aint no body got time for that.

good luck with your parts. just reminds me (and i'm sure others) of


that being said...good luck, hope you succeed.

this forum has gone downhill. good grief.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #19958
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are "double sided tape?! that sounds stupid, I would never use those!".
That's because they ARE stupid
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #19959
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Can I plasti-dip them ?
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:36 PM   #19960
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most original guy on this forum? literally blown away at your freshness. i want so badly to just rip into you for not actually knowing what you're talking about, as far as heat and temperatures go, but i'm not even going to go into it. aint no body got time for that.

good luck with your parts. just reminds me (and i'm sure others) of


that being said...good luck, hope you succeed.

this forum has gone downhill. good grief.
Last I checked, you took the stab first when you implied that caliper covers are a cheap way to make it look like I have upgraded big brakes. But little did you know, I'm not trying to trick anyone, just trying to clean up the look a little.

Why would you want to "rip into me so badly" about temperature and heat, when you could just be an adult and maybe give some good knowledge? Geez, just because you feel like you have some superior knowledge, doesn't allow you to be a dickhead.

It's comical that with your last statement, you are trying to be the bigger person by putting me down by implying that I'm the kook here and also wishing me good luck. When you just took your second stab at calling my car rice. Way to go, you are now a hypocrite.

I just don't understand why you even felt the need to tell me to not waste my time on caliper covers. I'll gladly take in quality knowledge, but some random opinion that I already proved doesn't make sense.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:38 PM   #19961
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That's because they ARE stupid
I'm sure you have adequate knowledge on 3M's industrial strength tape and also using it for caliper covers, right? Thanks for your opinion, I will not be taking it into account when product testing.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:41 PM   #19962
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Your forum experience will become more pleasant if you add the unwanted members to your ignore list Give it a try, this thread becomes pretty awesome after you do that.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:43 PM   #19963
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I'm sure you have adequate knowledge on 3M's industrial strength tape and also using it for caliper covers, right? Thanks for your opinion, I will not be taking it into account when product testing.
No. But I have adequate knowledge on stupid, useless add-ons
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:45 PM   #19964
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Your forum experience will become more pleasant if you add the unwanted members to your ignore list Give it a try, this thread becomes pretty awesome after you do that.
Pretty smart idea, never really thought of that, thanks!

The guy claims he has pretty good knowledge on heat transfer. If he actual wants to be mature in this conversation, I'd like to learn something from him. But he says he ain't got time for that, even though he has time to threaten to rip into me and call my car rice.

Like I said, I'll be creating a thread down the road once I have some quality testing finished. I think a lot of people will be surprised by the strength of the industrial double sided tape, but I really won't know how it will hold up until testing is done.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:48 PM   #19965
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No. But I have adequate knowledge on stupid, useless add-ons
Yet another opinion. Of course there's going to be people out there that like them and don't like them. Why does their opinion even affect you?

It's just like this guy with the sharpied car. He likes it, good for him! Why do people feel the need to hate. You can at least respect his opinion.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:56 PM   #19966
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Last I checked, you took the stab first when you implied that caliper covers are a cheap way to make it look like I have upgraded big brakes. But little did you know, I'm not trying to trick anyone, just trying to clean up the look a little.

Why would you want to "rip into me so badly" about temperature and heat, when you could just be an adult and maybe give some good knowledge? Geez, just because you feel like you have some superior knowledge, doesn't allow you to be a dickhead.

It's comical that with your last statement, you are trying to be the bigger person by putting me down by implying that I'm the kook here and also wishing me good luck. When you just took your second stab at calling my car rice. Way to go, you are now a hypocrite.

I just don't understand why you even felt the need to tell me to not waste my time on caliper covers. I'll gladly take in quality knowledge, but some random opinion that I already proved doesn't make sense.

let me be really straight. they are stupid, they look like rice. if you think 3M tape will hold the caliper covers to the caliper you are insane. anytime those brakes get heated up the tape will fail. it's not ONLY the heat to be concerned of: road grime, brake dust, brake fluid, water, snow, dust, oil, etc. all of those WILL cause the brakes to fail. HOWEVER, it won't even get to that point, the heat caused by brakes, even on a spirited drive will cause that tape to fail. 3M stuff is amazing, don't get me wrong, it'll hold mirrors on and side skirts and the like. but it will hot hold up to continuous heat cycles and continuous abuse that comes from roads. just get an IR camera and constantly heat that material up and cool down rapidly and you'll see 100% what i am talking about. an entry level engineer at any reputable company will understand that this is not a safe way to attach anything to the calipers. not to mention the calipers are steel stock, not aluminum IIRC, so the caliper covers and the calipers will expand and contract at different rates when heating and cooling. do you really want me to go on? if you'd like to honestly discuss my credibility i can give you my degrees, certifications, career history, and current position via PM. i know exactly what i'm talking about. what temperature did 3M say that tape will do? for how long? continuous use? with rapid and constantly cooling and heating up?

i did take a stab, they are stupid. they are ricey. it wasn't me taking a stab at you with the "this forum has gone down hill" it was a generality in the direction that the majority of this forum (this thread especially) has taken their cars. plastidipping this, painting that, ill fitted wheels, horrid drops, caliper covers on stock brakes, etc etc.

i'm wishing you luck because i never wish ill on someone trying to be a pioneer, but think it out before. and don't go spouting about how this magic 3M tape will keep covers attached to calipers with no factual data. so i'll reiterate. good luck, the product sucks, i suggest you invest your time and money elsewhere.

as far as garudatwo, you wanna see how people that mod their car that like your product?

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ostcount=19805

yea...seriously, look elsewhere for a product.
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:57 PM   #19967
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Yet another opinion. Of course there's going to be people out there that like them and don't like them. Why does their opinion even affect you?

It's just like this guy with the sharpied car. He likes it, good for him! Why do people feel the need to hate. You can at least respect his opinion.
I can laser mark the calipers with any logo for a small fee lol
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:58 PM   #19968
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I'd put caliper covers on, for looks, but I have doubts about 3M double sided tape staying sticky and not getting weird. Curious to see how they turn out after testing.

besthaticouldo - obviously bigger better brakes are the goal, but cleaning up the look for $75 (as alluded to by Buzzed Trucks) seems like a decent interrim solution for an aesthetic upgrade. What's wrong with that? nothing. You're a fairly reasonable guy so calling the idea flat out stupid is a bit harsh, don't you think?

That said:

What I worry is that the cover might come off after heat and brake dust works its way into the 3M tape, and then it could fall into the wheel or wreak other havoc (not to mention safety issues). Like besthaticouldo said, the 3M tape is pretty awesome for holding spoilers and other body bits together, but I do worry about the constant hot / cold cycles.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:02 PM   #19969
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where the hell did you get that front bumper emblum!?!~??!?!
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:03 PM   #19970
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it wasn't me taking a stab at you with the "this forum has gone down hill" it was a generality in the direction that the majority of this forum (this thread especially) has taken their cars. plastidipping this, painting that, ill fitted wheels, horrid drops, caliper covers on stock brakes, etc etc.
Dude, no disrespect, and I do respect you, but how many automotive forums are you on? They're all like this.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:05 PM   #19971
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I'd put caliper covers on, for looks, but I have doubts about 3M double sided tape staying sticky and not getting weird. Curious to see how they turn out after testing.

besthaticouldo - obviously bigger better brakes are the goal, but cleaning up the look for $75 (as alluded to by Buzzed Trucks) seems like a decent interrim solution for an aesthetic upgrade. What's wrong with that? nothing. You're a fairly reasonable guy so calling the idea flat out stupid is a bit harsh, don't you think?

That said:

What I worry is that the cover might come off after heat and brake dust works its way into the 3M tape, and then it could fall into the wheel or wreak other havoc (not to mention safety issues). Like besthaticouldo said, the 3M tape is pretty awesome for holding spoilers and other body bits together, but I do worry about the constant hot / cold cycles.
Use 2 part epoxy.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:05 PM   #19972
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:06 PM   #19973
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Dude, no disrespect, and I do respect you, but how many automotive forums are you on? They're all like this.
lol, i know they are. but it seems like the past year has been a huge shift on this forum. i actually get PMs from people asking me if i plastidip things, or where i got the carbon vinyl for this or whatever. it's ridiculous. i only frequent like 3 and one is a jeep forum, so that doesn't count hahaha. btw hows the weather in CA dude, it was 101 here today and 96% humidity. absolutely horrible. my car was not happy, even with the E85 tune it felt like a dog today.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:07 PM   #19974
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Use 2 part epoxy.
you run into the exact same issue with 2 part epoxy. not to mention, what happens if that gets on your pad, or rotor. or when you have to change the brakes?
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:07 PM   #19975
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Use 2 part epoxy.
I was thinking the same. What about changing pads? You'd have to bust off the cover, whether it's tape or epoxy, right?
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