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Old 06-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #20726
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Doubt the fog light cover is for cai unless that's a custom build seeing as in how my intake is on the other side
People asume more air will go through the intake since there is a hole vs a cover... which makes their cars "racecars" lol

Personally I realised that cai are just noise makers and actually worse for your car... There is no gain or increased mpg by adding one as the companies claim. You also run the risk of getting water into your engine. The're also pointless without a tune because your car will actually cut power if too much air comes in with your factory tune (this has happened to my freind's 12 WRX lmao). Tuning your car with a factory airbox will get you the same power with an intake. So just a Highflow filter would be the best. The only reason I would get a cold air intake is if I don't have room for it anymore due to intercooler piping or a rotated setup.



hey cliff_11wrx: I like the WRX. Yellow is a really bold color for brakes but it looks good. You gotta get matching rears to complete the look. I was thinking of getting Works probably the same size as yours (18x9 +38) and wondering where you purchased them. I'm still debating between XT7, 11R, and CR KAI...
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:48 PM   #20727
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Have lurked a bit over the years...used to have a spec B, sold it, got a truck and now I have this 2012 wrx. Got it with 4800 miles on it. First thing ordered is an accessport and a beatrush shift knob...other than some cosmetic mods...that will probably be about it...maybe a little lower over time.

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:05 PM   #20728
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People asume more air will go through the intake since there is a hole vs a cover... which makes their cars "racecars" lol

Personally I realised that cai are just noise makers and actually worse for your car... There is no gain or increased mpg by adding one as the companies claim. You also run the risk of getting water into your engine. The're also pointless without a tune because your car will actually cut power if too much air comes in with your factory tune (this has happened to my freind's 12 WRX lmao). Tuning your car with a factory airbox will get you the same power with an intake. So just a Highflow filter would be the best. The only reason I would get a cold air intake is if I don't have room for it anymore due to intercooler piping or a rotated setup.
No. A high flow filter will also allow more air past the MAF in a different flow pattern than designed and tuned for. A high flow filter will make your car run just as ****ty on a stock tune as a CAI. Any filter besides the OEM should really be monitored and tuned for. RSD had some good tests here showing the after market filters are just as bad as a CAI if un-tuned for.

As for the CAI being just a noise maker. I'll just leave this here.

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Actually you can get plenty of gain out of the intake at stage 2, It's perfectly safe when tuned for and adds about 10-15 WHP to the car.

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I have an AEM CAI sitting around that I was debating on selling or having him tune for. When I asked Eric if it was worth anything power wise, that was his response.

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:11 PM   #20729
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And I was responding to the comment that the single fog cover was for cai which is the blocked off section not the open fog section

Sorry for the confusion
Okay let me put these pictures side by side. Now 08+ WRX's and STi's and have the same engine layout. So looking at the front of the yellow STi: it has the fog light cover on the pasenger side. Now if you open the hood of your car and see where the airbox is, it's on the pasenger side.


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Jello Subaru

The red pipe is a CAI witch is on the pasenger side


I hope this answered some questions... lol

If you don't believe me go check for yourself haha
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:18 PM   #20730
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Right and if you read that last explanation. I said sorry for the confusion seemed as it was being referred to as the blocked off fog section aka "cover" damn
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:31 PM   #20731
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Sorry I meant A high flow filter as an alternative to a cold air intake...
Anything moddified on a turbo car should be tuned to safely increase power, not just bolt on


They were noise makers to me because my friends and people I see at car meets would put them on and tell me how much more power they can feel lol. Most people I PERSONALY see add an intake with no tuning or other modifications besides an exhaust .

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #20732
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SpicyPeaNut - How did you make your Torque gauges that color? All I can find is the standard ones.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:38 PM   #20733
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The car obviously has a FMIC. You have to run a cold air intake for the piping to fit (unless you have a crappy RacerX).

The Jello car has a fully built shortblock, ported heads, 272 cams, upgraded turbo, upgraded fuel system, 6 speed, and custom E85 tune.

It's not just a stock car with an intake bolted on and no tuning
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:42 PM   #20734
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Sorry I meant A high flow filter as an alternative to a cold air intake...
Anything moddified on a turbo car should be tuned to safely increase power, not just bolt on


They were noise makers to me because my friends and people I see at car meets would put them on and tell me how much more power they can feel lol. Most people I PERSONALY see add an intake with no tuning or other modifications besides an exhaust .

I like this: Professional Tuner > Internet Mechanics
I know what you mean and what you were trying to say. I just wanted to clarify for anyone lurking and reading that.

I am the same way, I see them as noise makers. I got the AEM for dirt cheap, and have been debating if I should flip it and get $$ or give it a try. I run every stupid idea I come up with through Eric, since he has final say on how well my car will run. I was actually surprised when he didn't say they are completely worthless.

I think the stigma about them around here, like you said, just came from everyone sticking them on as the first thing they do and not tuning for them. It is also commonly thrown around that the stock intake is good until XXX horsepower. That is a pretty broad generalization and it isn't until that XXX number that it simple becomes the bottleneck in the system. Opening the flow to the turbo does help out earlier than most keyboard warriors around here would have you think.
It just became a thing where the experienced guys don't want the noobs to put them on as money can be better spent else where on the early mods. Then it becomes a simple monkey see monkey do. The newer guys around here see the old balls suggesting it so much that they just start to blindly repeat what they hear. (I am guilty of this too)

I try to research 1000x more now than I did a year ago. Also helps that Eric is a badass and puts up with all my dumb ass emails.
One thing he does NOT suggest is an electric cut out. I was wanting one for a bit, because deep down I am 12 and want that race car sound.


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The car obviously has a FMIC. You have to run a cold air intake for the piping to fit (unless you have a crappy RacerX).

The Jello car has a fully built shortblock, ported heads, 272 cams, upgraded turbo, upgraded fuel system, 6 speed, and custom E85 tune.

It's not just a stock car with an intake bolted on and no tuning
Those are just a bunch of smart people words. I'm pretty sure that is just a classic interFooler and is not actually connected to anything. Trust me, I am a certified internet mechanic. I know what I am talking about
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:03 AM   #20735
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Well I know what makes the car yellow
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:04 AM   #20736
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Right and if you read that last explanation. I said sorry for the confusion seemed as it was being referred to as the blocked off fog section aka "cover" damn
Sorry I just kinda skip posts. It wasn't directly toward you. There is alot of talking here for a picture thread (including me) so I'm done (and mainly because we should be in a different section to be internet mechanics or in pm's... true story)

xluben: I didn't even notice it at first glance, my bad. I was blinded by the jello haha

JSchell1309: It's good to clarify, especially since I'm not a very descriptive writer I leave many important things out. If we can stop one person from adding an intake on a stock wrx, It was worth it. But I'm off to the tuner to have my bolted on garett gt6000zx turbo push 45psi on a completely stock wrx haha
So Lets see some pictures
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:07 AM   #20737
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Well I know what makes the car yellow
Sunshine
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:11 AM   #20738
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Exactly!
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:12 AM   #20739
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Just picked my 2011 up Monday. Woohoo! (Crappy phone pic, tho )

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Old 06-27-2013, 01:45 AM   #20740
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Removed front plate. See how long I can get away with it. Love the clean look more.


Sketchy by JSchell1309, on Flickr
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:58 AM   #20741
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How about a few dozen 2011+....

Subaru Summer Solstice 2013 San Pedro, Ca
No thats my home town! and i wasnt able to be there
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:12 AM   #20742
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No thats my home town! and i wasnt able to be there
It was awesome!

does anyone have more pics? This may be unholy of me, but can someone post a few pics of that teal FRS? that thing was so beautiful it made me sad......
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:13 AM   #20743
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People asume more air will go through the intake since there is a hole vs a cover... which makes their cars "racecars" lol

Personally I realised that cai are just noise makers and actually worse for your car... There is no gain or increased mpg by adding one as the companies claim. You also run the risk of getting water into your engine. The're also pointless without a tune because your car will actually cut power if too much air comes in with your factory tune (this has happened to my freind's 12 WRX lmao). Tuning your car with a factory airbox will get you the same power with an intake. So just a Highflow filter would be the best. The only reason I would get a cold air intake is if I don't have room for it anymore due to intercooler piping or a rotated setup.



hey cliff_11wrx: I like the WRX. Yellow is a really bold color for brakes but it looks good. You gotta get matching rears to complete the look. I was thinking of getting Works probably the same size as yours (18x9 +38) and wondering where you purchased them. I'm still debating between XT7, 11R, and CR KAI...
Close...but my specs are actually 18x9.5 +38. I am looking to get the rears. Just gotta wait to find 08+ rears. Not wanting to drop 250 on brackets for the gold rears to fit.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:14 AM   #20744
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Removed front plate. See how long I can get away with it. Love the clean look more.
Awesome picture, great wheel fitment, and clean styling. The red smile looks good with the other red STI bits too.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:29 AM   #20745
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Awesome picture, great wheel fitment, and clean styling. The red smile looks good with the other red STI bits too.
Thanks! I really appreciate it. I am trying out my skills (or lack their of) with photography. I am loving it so far.

Still debating if I want to get rid of the ricer racing red stripe
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Old 06-27-2013, 03:02 AM   #20746
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What camera is everyone using for these awesome pics?
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:01 AM   #20747
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I am a ricer so I took out my foglight.


Head On by rsutton198 | oneninety8.com, on Flickr

It decreased intake air temps...does little to increase flow.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:46 AM   #20748
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Windshield banner is a camo pattern with STI logo's throughout the black area:
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:58 AM   #20749
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It looks like a cow with chicken pox.



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What camera is everyone using for these awesome pics?
I just picked up a decent entry level DSLR. Even an entry level in auto mode will be better quality images than a point and shoot or a cell phone. Once you learn to shoot in manual and understand how to really capture an image, you will come out with results similar to rsutton, xluben, or overland04.

That will take a while as they are professional photographers haha.

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Old 06-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #20750
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I am a ricer so I took out my foglight.

It decreased intake air temps...does little to increase flow.
How much did it decrease the temps? And is it worth it... will you be leaving it out?
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