How to wrap your header/uppipe

[Unabomber]

Originally Posted by Faster_Gun

Thoughts on laying down some thermal paint before wrapping?

Don't as there is nothing that us civilians can use in a spray can that will last longer than .000000023 seconds on a header. Baleeee dat.

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[joewrx628]

Bought some today and most of my headers. Tomorrow ill do my up pipe and the rest of the headers. So far its looking good!

[tazswing]

Wrap it all. If you are worried about the plastic under tray, get an aluminum one like by Primitive Racing. You don't need to wrap all of the down-pipe from what I have heard.

Though, I track my car so I get some heat going.




from: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2163482

[tazswing]

All wrapped up. Used about 60' of 2" wrap for my Perrin EL headers. Likely you could get away with 50' which would allow you to only order one roll. I had a 100' roll that I got rather cheap via Amazon. The bends eat up the most wrap.

Thanks again for the write-up!

[Chukjagr]

Two questions on using heat wrap. My DP has a cast iron bellmouth. Is it ok to wrap cast? I was going to bolt the bellmouth to the rest of the DP and wrap about 18" worth. Second, it is ok to wrap over ceramic coating? My up pipe is coated but I don't know if it'll be enough. I'm also wrapping my turbo. Florida summers don't mix well with these cars.

[Unabomber]

You can wrap any metal.
You can wrap over coating though it may void any coating warranty depending on the coating maker.

[tazswing]

Originally Posted by Unabomber

You can wrap any metal.
You can wrap over coating though it may void any coating warranty depending on the coating maker.

I would call the manufacturer of the coating and ask for sure.

I bought a used set of Perrin headers b/c I knew I was going to wrap them and this would void any warranty of theirs so saw no point in new.

[King of Poop]

Originally Posted by Unabomber

What are you doing outside of OT???

bwhaha! Just noticed this...

I have a subaru and do work and stuff. I just finished ceramic coating my header, up-pipe, and Downpipe. I'm about the wrap the headers...ugh. This is gonna take a while!

[WhatTurboLag?]

I know It's not necessary but would wetting it make It easier to apply? Can we still use the silicone paint for additional heat resistance? I will be using hose clamps or just wire twisted together. I got 2 inch 25 feet for my dp for now.


Would wrapping it twice add more heat retention aswell?

[tazswing]

Originally Posted by WhatTurboLag?

I know It's not necessary but would wetting it make It easier to apply? Can we still use the silicone paint for additional heat resistance? I will be using hose clamps or just wire twisted together. I got 2 inch 25 feet for my dp for now.


Would wrapping it twice add more heat retention aswell?

Not sure based on experience. I do know that even the lava stuff still has some dust which is why I wore a simple mask.

Why not wrap half the pipe with wet wrap and the other with dry and report back?

[emericareaper2]

Noob question: Is wrapping headers good or bad if I deal with snow/salt in winter?? Nice job btw

[bugeyetex]

Y no sticky?

[tazswing]

Originally Posted by emericareaper2

Noob question: Is wrapping headers good or bad if I deal with snow/salt in winter?? Nice job btw

This is just my opinion since I grew up in the Tri-State area: I would opt for the cost of coating vs. wrapping b/c of the salt. I don't see how the wrap would do anything but hold salty moisture goodness against the metal. It already hold moisture until I gets hot enough, then add salt...

Other thoughts? Have you asked around the local forums of salty winter states?

[Unabomber]

We have an undertray. If you get salty snowy water on your wrapped headers, you are doing it wrong as they say.

[emericareaper2]

Okay well good thing I didn't. Thank ya

[xluben]

Originally Posted by King of Poop

bwhaha! Just noticed this...

I have a subaru and do work and stuff. I just finished ceramic coating my header, up-pipe, and Downpipe. I'm about the wrap the headers...ugh. This is gonna take a while!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-36-21_819.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-28-08_626.jpg

How do you plan on getting that external dump, divorced setup to seal inside the back of the turbo? Looks like a constant exhaust leak to me...

[WhatTurboLag?]

another question i forgot to ask.

wrapping my DP, my EWG dumps right onto/close to the dp. can i still wrap past there or will the gasses from the ewg pounding on it be bad for the wrap?

[baacke]

Originally Posted by xluben

How do you plan on getting that external dump, divorced setup to seal inside the back of the turbo? Looks like a constant exhaust leak to me...

+1.

[gutie04]

Originally Posted by paulpat

Is there a way to wrap something over this so that water, dirt and oil from getting soaked into the wrap.

I was thinking something like the silver stuff on the unabomber's turbo wrap guide. Can I just layer aluminium foil and wrap that with headers, uppipe, and downpipe?

Is it possible to retain the OEM heat shields on the headers?
I have the OEM headers and uppipe.

Originally Posted by paulpat

Eh thats what I was afraid of. I would love for the heat sheilds to somewhat bolt up because my OEM plastic skidplate is dead. I might try this some time if I am ever taking off the up pipe and cross pipes again. I would have done this soon but now my motivation is gone... I'll stick to just the turbo blanket wrap like Ron did.

I was able to use this wrap on my OEM Manifolds and x-pipe and still get the heat shields back on. The x-pipe heat shield was a real pain to do. It's been a while but iirc I had to bend a few pieces so they wouldn't rub the wrap.

[happs subi]

How long of a roll do I need for just an uppipe? I was thinking about just getting a 1in x 15ft roll but with you guys talking about 50ft rolls im getting a little worried.

just a grimmspeed uppipe, no ewg or anything special

[Unabomber]

Depends on you bro. If you wrap like the typical dude, which is to say it will look like it was wrapped by honey badger while being stung by 10,000 wasps, then get a 50' roll. If you wrap like me, then 15' should do it.

[happs subi]

Originally Posted by Unabomber

Depends on you bro. If you wrap like the typical dude, which is to say it will look like it was wrapped by honey badger while being stung by 10,000 wasps, then get a 50' roll. If you wrap like me, then 15' should do it.

Thanks man

Do you recommend any specific vendors?

[Unabomber]

As long as you buy the titanium wrap stuff, the vendor don't matter as the price will be within $2 or so. If your local auto store has it, get it there, if not check eBay or summit racing.

[Half Crazed]

Hey guys, just used this guide to wrap my Invidia up and down pipes for my 08. Used the titanium 50' - 2" wrap and it covered the up pipe and the downpipe with about 8" left over (whew!). I followed the overlap by 1/4-1/2" (based on the slight angles). It looks great.. but it will get itchy.. A little tip: if you grip around the wrap and twist (like an Indian burn on someones arm), you can get this stuff nicely tight and it won't move.



I have one more 50' roll of this that I hope will cover the headers, though I may end up having to overlap by very little.

PS: I have figured out a way to get these steel zip ties TIGHT...: Basically, while your part is on the ground (and your feet, with shoes on it), have the outlet of the tie holder facing up (and already taught by hand). Get a phillips screwdriver and put it in the rear of the tie (where the slack comes out) with one hand. With the other hand grasping pliers, get a grip and pull the tie towards you, tighter while holding the mouth in one place (so push with screwdriver, pull with pliers). even with a little muscle you should be able to get these pretty tight. I also put a piece of the wrap folded up in the tie before tightening so that the tie would have something to "bite" into. You can see an example of this in the up pipe..

I haven't trimmed the slack of the ties yet because I didn't have cutters in my living room Hope this helps

[IheartAWD]

two giant 50 foot rolls just for one header!? =./