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Old 02-06-2012, 09:34 AM   #1
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With the 2011 Jetta update, Volkswagen made some compromises to get the price low, but the GLI restores handling and power to this otherwise humble model.
Significant additions to the Jetta GLI are a multi-link rear suspension and rear disc brakes. The most important part of the package is one of the best powertrains available today, Volkswagen's TFSI 2-liter four cylinder engine mated to its Direct Shift Gearbox. That engine combines good economy and and power.
Cabin tech options mirror what can be found in other high trim Jettas, with an available navigation system and iPod connectivity. We raved about the Fender audio system in this Jetta, which blows away other audio offerings in this segment.
The biggest competition to the GLI comes from Volkswagen itself, with the GTI. That hot hatchback gets the same powertrain, along with launch control. But if a sedan is more your style, then the Jetta GLI will have to suffice.



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The good: With its dual-clutch transmission and turbocharged 2-liter engine, the 2012 Volkswagen Jetta GLI delivers enjoyable and economical performance. The Fender audio system produces incredibly good sound, the best available for cars in this segment.
The bad: Unlike its sibling GTI, the Jetta GLI lacks launch control and a hatchback. The iPod connecter is placed inconveniently in the glove box.
The bottom line: Cabin tech in the 2012 Volkswagen Jetta GLI may not be cutting-edge, but the Fender audio system sounds excellent. The boring sedan body belies the superior handling and quick-shifting gearbox.


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2012 Volkswagen Jetta GLI

The Jetta GLI is as different from the Jettas S, SE, and SEL as the movie originally called "Star Wars" is from "Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace." The first is exciting and fun, while the latter is merely a vehicle to get you from point A to point B.
With the 2012 Jetta GLI, Volkswagen starts with a standard Jetta, then puts a turbocharged direct-injection 2-liter engine under the hood, and joins it to a Direct-Shift Gearbox (DSG), Volkswagen's version of the dual-clutch automated manual transmission. This engine and transmission combination ... Expand full review

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Old 02-06-2012, 01:23 PM   #2
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I wish they would rather just make the Passat CC a bit more attainable, and entertaining.

The Jetta is boring now

This engine, and DSG gearbox, with AWD in a sport-appearance-package CC would be nice.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:31 PM   #3
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^ exactly or even the Golf R. I've read several reviews of the Jetta GLI all making comments on how intrusive the non-defeatable stability control is.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #4
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Why anyone interested in this car would not just buy a 4-door GTI is just about beyond me.......I like clean cars in general, but good gosh what a boring looking car. The side profile is actually somehow decent imo(?), but the rest looks like a crappy rental Chevy with some ugly rims thrown on it by a youthful owner (yeah, I said it ).

Damn VW, you are giving people less and less valid reasons to buy your products. If I want a cheap piece of crap, I can just buy a Chevy, Dodge, or Mitsu (minus the EVO, of course).
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:46 PM   #5
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Adds rear disc brakes? The standard Jetta has drum brakes in the rear?
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:03 PM   #6
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Adds rear disc brakes? The standard Jetta has drum brakes in the rear?
When they said the new Jetta was de-contented from the previous model to keep the price down, they weren't kiddin'.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:09 PM   #7
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Damn VW, you are giving people less and less valid reasons to buy your products.
Sales numbers through last year REALLY disagree with you....people are buying the hell out of them.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:41 PM   #8
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Fender? ...really?
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:48 PM   #9
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So they painted the brake calipers red, slap on a Town Fair tire's onsale special wheels, and call it, "a driver's car?" Please...
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #10
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why cant they be more creative with the styling like the mk4 jetta's this gli was nice to look at.

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Old 02-06-2012, 09:25 PM   #11
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So they painted the brake calipers red, slap on a Town Fair tire's onsale special wheels, and call it, "a driver's car?" Please...
No, they actually changed the entire suspension, engine, and transmission...a little more than cosmetic changes.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:54 PM   #12
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No, they actually changed the entire suspension, engine, and transmission...a little more than cosmetic changes.
Actually, starting with MY2011 the USDM Jetta lost its multi-link setup and got a torsion beam instead. MY2010 Jettas and older had a multi-link setup in the rear. So, MY2012 GLI is not really bringing anything new except for DSG; it's just getting back the rear multi-link setup that the other Jettas should not have lost in the first place.
I guess most Jetta owners would be hard pressed to notice the on-road difference between the torsion beam and the multi-link setup...
The few owners that can notice the difference have to pay for a GLI now.
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FWIW, I saw a new black GLI at the auto show and that is far from a bad looking car. I mean it was ever bit an attention grabber, and it had that subtle aggressive undertone that all good german cars have. It would make a great daily driver by any means.
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FWIW, I saw a new black GLI at the auto show and that is far from a bad looking car. I mean it was ever bit an attention grabber, and it had that subtle aggressive undertone that all good german cars have. It would make a great daily driver by any means.
Did it have good stance?
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Sales numbers through last year REALLY disagree with you....people are buying the hell out of them.
Being a cheap, unreliable, de-contented, crap-box does not make for a VALID reason in my book............Buy hey, we all know that sells well here in the good old USA.
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Call me when they do a sporty -R model of this.

270 hp turbo, or V6... DSG, and AWD, and a sporty front fascia and mesh grille, and sporty wheels.

Preferably in the dark blue that they use on the GTI and -R model VWs, with silver mirrors, and blacked out roof.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #17
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Being a cheap, unreliable, de-contented, crap-box does not make for a VALID reason in my book............Buy hey, we all know that sells well here in the good old USA.
Is the new Jetta unreliable? And even for 18k you can get what a basic commuter vehicle that has plenty of room. You may not like it, but you aren't buying it. So who gives a **** if you don't like it.

The bottom line here is VW needs to up total car output....and they are doing just that.
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No MT option and drivers car does not compute. Just another VW
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Being a cheap, unreliable, de-contented, crap-box does not make for a VALID reason in my book............Buy hey, we all know that sells well here in the good old USA.
To be fair, it's not like Americans actually want crap-boxes. I think this is one of the weakest offerings in the suddenly extremely competitive small car segment, but I can also see that it'll appeal to some people quite well. For example,

1. You don't know much about cars, nor do you care.
2. You believe that German cars are a little bit more special than Honda or Toyota. When you hear "German engineering", you think of something solid and high quality.
3. Similarly, you think all American and Korean cars are junk.
4, You either don't know about VW reliability history, or VW owners around you lucked out.
5. You don't think about cars enough to consider "unusual" cars like hatchbacks.

In this case, why wouldn't you like the new and cheaper Jetta? It's a reasonable car, it looks sort of German, and it's no longer more expensive than the Civic.
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I wish they would rather just make the Passat CC a bit more attainable, and entertaining.

The Jetta is boring now

This engine, and DSG gearbox, with AWD in a sport-appearance-package CC would be nice.

Volkswagen’s upcoming MQB platform will allow the firm to grow its Passat range even further, Autocar has learned. The versatile MQB structure will be introduced first on the new Audi A3 at next month’s Geneva motor show. It will then be rolled out across a whole range of VW Group cars, underpinning everything up to the VW CC.
Stefan Buhrmann, VW’s marketing chief for mid to full-sized cars, confirmed that replacements for the Passat range — currently including saloon, estate, CC and Alltrack variants — would be launched off the MQB structure. He also said MQB provided “a boost” in presenting chances to grow the Passat range further.
“MQB definitely provides more opportunities for us,” he told Autocar. “With the Passat, we can offer many different designs and wheelbases, and can be much more flexible with engines.”
The Phaeton also comes under Buhrmann’s remit, and he confirmed work was continuing on its successor, with another round of improvements likely soon for the current car. “We don’t see the Phaeton as a one-time event,” he said. “We work on every project and want to grow the Phaeton.”
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Is the new Jetta unreliable? And even for 18k you can get what a basic commuter vehicle that has plenty of room. You may not like it, but you aren't buying it. So who gives a **** if you don't like it.

The bottom line here is VW needs to up total car output....and they are doing just that.
Are you freaking serious? Is the new Jetta unreliable? It is a VW, so yes. I had an 08 GTI and I had 5 things replaced on the car before I traded it in with 29,000 miles, getting rid of it because it was just a matter of days before something else went wrong.

Considering that I am a former VW customer who looked at a Jetta-based GLI in the past, my opinion as a consumer does have relevance. Given my past experience with VW and my tendancy to purchase cars frequently, VW is/should be the one who gives a **** about my opinion, because neither I nor my family would look at this for a next vehicle due to the downgrade that they have done with the content and quality of the vehicle and the reliability record.
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Relax...I am in the same boat as you. I have owned no less than 5 VW's since I started driving 30 years ago....and won't own another. The last straw for me was my 02 GTI. How hard is it to fix coil packs and window regulators? Having the window drop into the door and shatter because the regulator broke...and then not have them cover the damage due the rain storm I happened to be driving through at the time was a bit much.

But you act like other brands are any different.

BMW has so many electrical problems who knows where to start.
Honda...worst transmissions EVER.
Subaru really needs to learn to just install the 6 speed manual in everything and then there was the ringland problem in the 08's.
Ford...don't even get me started.
Dodge/Chrysler...ok, I found a transmission worse than Honda.

Do I really need to continue?

The only vehicle I have found that I would call "reliable" was my wife's Volvo xc70...and those are supposed to be hugely expensive to maintain and break down all the time. I wish my Subaru was as cheap. In 170,000 miles the only non-maintenance item we had to take care of was 4 wheel bearings. I wish my subaru had been this reliable.
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