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View Poll Results: Wondering how many is going evo?
I've placed an order or plan to buy an Evo. ~($29K) 8 14.81%
I've placed an order or plan to buy an STI. ~($30K) 25 46.30%
I'm buying whatever comes out first. 5 9.26%
I rather buy a 03 wrx and modifiy it later. 16 29.63%
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Old 08-16-2002, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default Evo first or wait for sti?

We are all rally fans here and i just want to see where the public stands here.
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Old 08-16-2002, 01:24 PM   #2
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Hard to mkae a decesion when we still don't know what kind of power and performance our watered down versions are going to get, and we still don't even have any official word on when (or even if) the STi is coming over in the first place. Right now, you have to lean toward the Evo, since we know it's coming, and should out-perform the WRX easily. I'd rather have Subaru quality, though, but I also want the best bang for my buck. Oh, well, either way, it would get parked next to my MY00 2.5RS, not getting rid of my baby!
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Old 08-16-2002, 01:37 PM   #3
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sti is officially coming, supposedely march, but it may be pulled to an earlier date to compete with the evo.
no stats on the car have been released yet, though
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Old 08-16-2002, 01:56 PM   #4
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When did Subaru announce this? It would hit their website immediately. I'm guessing it was confirmed by the mother-in-law of your neighbors' barber, who's 3rd cousin works for a Buick/GMC/Subaru dealership 12 states away.
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Old 08-16-2002, 02:01 PM   #5
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I'm keeping my WRX for a few more years! I think y'all are crazy for buying new cars so often!
I like the unique boxer engine. If my WRX stands the test of time well I will likely go with a STi in the '05 to '07 time frame - but who knows what will be available then.
I love cars, but I don't want to wind up in the poor house because of them. I'd rather spend some of my extra money on my home, loved ones and hobbys.
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Old 08-16-2002, 02:16 PM   #6
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I'd rather drive a Justy than an Evo.
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Old 08-16-2002, 05:27 PM   #7
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yea I rather have the STI also, but like other people said its gonna be detuned or water downed a lot so you dont know if its worth it....
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Old 08-16-2002, 06:39 PM   #8
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I'm keeping my WRX for a few more years! I think y'all are crazy for buying new cars so often!
I like the unique boxer engine. If my WRX stands the test of time well I will likely go with a STi in the '05 to '07 time frame - but who knows what will be available then.
I love cars, but I don't want to wind up in the poor house because of them. I'd rather spend some of my extra money on my home, loved ones and hobbys.
Great attitude! I agree completely, although being single I tend to overspend on my cars. I'm planning to buy an '03 WRX and wait to see how the STi/Evo competition shakes out. I'll probably never buy a Mitsubishi, however, due to past bad experiences.
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Old 08-17-2002, 10:32 AM   #9
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I'd rather spend some of my extra money on my home, loved ones and hobbys.
Depending on how much you love your car it could fall into all 3 of those catagories

As far as the EVO goes, its using the 4G63 powerplant....which has been known the the DSM guys for getting crankwalk (the crank begins to move back and fourth in the bearings. You can imagine what this does to the rest of the car.

I'll stick with my Toyotas and Subarus...as far as I'm concerned they're the only worthwhile cars made for under 30k these days
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Old 08-17-2002, 08:43 PM   #10
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the 4G63 powerplant....which has been known the the DSM guys for getting crankwalk
This engine block has been used for over 10 years. Ya think the engine is imporved by now? Better crank balancing bearing and vibrational anaylsis to prevent this? To make it short are you saying the scoobie's engine is stronge and therefore take more hp?

Oh yeah why not add Honda to your list of cars?
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Old 08-17-2002, 10:25 PM   #11
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As the Evo costs more here in Japan, I'm sure it will cost more in the states as well. So, even if it has a few extra ponies, it might not be worth the extra money. And IIRC, the Evo is direct competition for the WRX, and the STi is a set up from the WRX. However, the Evo is up to $5,000 more than a WRX.
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Old 08-17-2002, 11:14 PM   #12
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Originally posted by romoranger
sti is officially coming, supposedely march, but it may be pulled to an earlier date to compete with the evo.
no stats on the car have been released yet, though
I haven't seen anything official yet, so if you could show us where you got that info, that would be great. Otherwise, I'm going to have to say that you were sucked into the rumor mill.
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Old 08-18-2002, 01:13 AM   #13
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the Evo is direct competition for the WRX,
Not to be rude but what are you talking about? If you live in japan you know evo VII gsr have brembos, recarios, 280+ps, huge FMIC, ACD, and AYC. How can that compete against a regular WRX? You probably already know that the wrx has 250PS and no center limited slip. The evo is in comparason to the STI. Please clearify your reasoning.

EDIT: The new STi cost more than the EVO VII probably due to the better interior but, of course the wrx is cheaper.
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Old 08-18-2002, 02:38 AM   #14
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Not to be rude but what are you talking about? If you live in japan you know evo VII gsr have brembos, recarios, 280+ps, huge FMIC, ACD, and AYC. How can that compete against a regular WRX? You probably already know that the wrx has 250PS and no center limited slip. The evo is in comparason to the STI. Please clearify your reasoning.

EDIT: The new STi cost more than the EVO VII probably due to the better interior but, of course the wrx is cheaper.
If you will, note the IIRC in my post. And regardless, you don't see that many Evos where I live. You see WRXs. And STis. So, I'd have to say more people feel the Impreza is more worth it's money than an Evo. And I can't see Subaru trying to change that in the states, either.
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Old 08-18-2002, 09:08 AM   #15
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Is the RCII more like the turbo cedia? You probably know more than i do but, I assume that you were comparing the gsr vs wrx due to the version we'll probably going to get.

Anyways thanks for your input.
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Old 08-18-2002, 02:07 PM   #16
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Old 08-18-2002, 02:32 PM   #17
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If you will, note the IIRC in my post. And regardless, you don't see that many Evos where I live. You see WRXs. And STis. So, I'd have to say more people feel the Impreza is more worth it's money than an Evo. And I can't see Subaru trying to change that in the states, either.
I go to Japan quite often and agree that the Impreza is well-received there, but most car enthusiasts from Japan I have spoken with feel that the Evo is a better performing car than the STi. In the Tokyo area I see more Evos than STis. I think it boils down to whether one is willing to shell out an extra couple thousand bucks for the Evo and to personal preferences. I don't think that reliability is too much of an issue, as both companies have had their share of obstacles. Toyota is king in terms of perceived reliability there. Mitsubishi isn't exactly known for reliability, and Subaru used to have problems with the Legacy til recently. Of course styling is subjective. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-18-2002, 05:38 PM   #18
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Are you saying the Evo VII gsr is more expensive than the Subaru's STI? If it is will it mean subarus will me under 30k in the U.S.?

I've always been told that STI cost more comparing apples to apples. GSR to STI. Are you comparing Type C vs Rs sprint?
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Old 08-18-2002, 05:40 PM   #19
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Where is the option: I will buy whichever one has a larger bandwagon behind it.

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Old 08-18-2002, 05:55 PM   #20
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there is no way to compare the Us spec evo and sti since neither is finalized.. but.. consider that the euro spec evos produce more power, and have more features such as variable f/r power distribution.. both are worth cars, but the more expensive evo's are superior to the sti ... (remember that the EVO comes in Four flavors, the basic deal is about STI level, then theres the FQ300 and the RS and will then theres the RS Sprint - (rumor has it this is what God drives) you can bet neither company will let U.S. drivers touch the really good stuff so the two US models will probably be pretty close. The EVO will have some bad-arse aftermarket parts available though!
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Old 08-18-2002, 08:21 PM   #21
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Guys....First the STi is coming which you know already, its coming late 02 or early 03. Secondly, the Evo will be called the Evolution VIII and it will cost close to $34,000. It will have abot 270 hp and have some other cool **** like brembos and recaros prolly, but keep in mind....its still a mistu, and the interior is worse than a civic (minus the seats).

Im not gonna buy either, 1) too much money, 2) I'd rather make my car fast myself, rather than have someone else do it.

03 WRX will do just fine for me, a few mods and it'll be cheaper and close to the performance of those $30k+ cars. I know comparing non-stock to stock is wrong, but im not really doing that, so dont jump on me. :P

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Old 08-18-2002, 10:10 PM   #22
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a few mods and it'll be cheaper and close to the performance of those $30k+ cars
On the drag strip yes I agree. Durability NO. I personally feel you can't go wrong with any of the choices i've posted but, i just want to note that it's cheaper in the long run to buy the STI even if it's 34K (if full blown that is).

For 10K over stock wrx you get.
1) 17"wheels and better tires.
2) Brembo Brakes
3) higher duty injectors (great for future mods)
4) Sti suspention and Shocks
5) 6-speed tranny also stronger and aggresive gearing.
6) Forged Pistons
7) Recario seats that says subaru
8) Larger intercooler with spray
9) Limited slip center diffs
10) Larger ball bearing turbos
11) stronger clutch
12) Sti trans and engine mount
13) Cool sti light
14) Sti exhaust

If you add it up i'd say for 10 grand that's a great deal.
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Old 08-19-2002, 03:18 PM   #23
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is that list what the JDM STi comes with? I have always wondered that...I think I will have to drive them both before I can decide, but I am more than happy with my WRX. I like to make the car the way I want it. I bet most people will end up changing a lot of things on both the STi and the evo. I guess we will have to wait and see!

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Old 08-19-2002, 03:29 PM   #24
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Hey, I'm new here. I really had my hopes set on the EVO, even have a domain name incase it takes off http://www.evo8usa.com

But until I see concrete facts of the car, I can't nail down a decision. The WRX is becoming a very possible choice, the aftermarket is huge in comparision to what I'm used too(Celica GTS) And Im a huge WRC fan so it makes sense.
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Drive a EVO-V-VII-VIII??? That is the same as driving a Honda civic EX or a Doge Neon we have a reputation to uphold dammit.
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