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Old 02-13-2012, 11:55 PM   #1
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Hi I was wondering if i would have much trouble with rubbing on the xxr 17x8.25 +25 wheels on my 03 wrx with blue pro drive springs
probably get 225/45 or 225/40?? spacers?
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:33 AM   #2
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Hi I was wondering if i would have much trouble with rubbing on the xxr 17x8.25 +25 wheels on my 03 wrx with blue pro drive springs
probably get 225/45 or 225/40?? spacers?
any input is appreciated
"much trouble" depends on the individual. Too much trouble for how wide that wheel is? Yea.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:37 AM   #3
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asking about spacers with a +25 wheel shows how little you know. please read up, it's not difficult to understand how offset works.
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:19 AM   #4
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asking about spacers with a +25 wheel shows how little you know. please read up, it's not difficult to understand how offset works.
what i meant by spacers was to push the wheel closer to the fender edge really depending on the height of the tire i choose, i enjoy the wider meaner look but +25 is pretty low and this is the first time for me trying to find the right stance on a suby, been a honda/nissan guy most of my life, i plan on rolling the fenders and eventually find a set of coilovers i like
but i really just need to know how the wheels fit the car
sorry for the confusion
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:47 AM   #5
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take nhats advice.

you need to learn this on your own.

there are plenty of resources on this forum.

"stance" isn't something that just happens by throwing some wheels on your car. it has to be carefully crafted.

besides.....really? 8" wheels? and xxr's no less?
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:43 AM   #6
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take nhats advice.

you need to learn this on your own.

there are plenty of resources on this forum.

"stance" isn't something that just happens by throwing some wheels on your car. it has to be carefully crafted.

besides.....really? 8" wheels? and xxr's no less?
when your 21 and in college, plus gotta pay rent and just dropped 8 grand on a car and theres kinda high insurance i doubt that i can afford much else than xxr's.... lol
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what i meant by spacers was to push the wheel closer to the fender edge really depending on the height of the tire i choose, i enjoy the wider meaner look but +25 is pretty low and this is the first time for me trying to find the right stance on a suby, been a honda/nissan guy most of my life, i plan on rolling the fenders and eventually find a set of coilovers i like
but i really just need to know how the wheels fit the car
sorry for the confusion
OK. You don't get it. The lower the offset, the MORE the wheel is pushed out to the fender, not the other way around. For example, a wheel with a +50 offset is going to sit further in, closer to the strut/suspension. A wheel with a +25 offset is going to be pushed out, towards (and probably past) the fender. So, your 17x8.5 +25 is already going to stick way out. Spacers will just make it worse. Stock '03 WRX wheels are 16x6.5 +55. Compare that to 17x7.8 +25 and you'll see how much further out they are. Use this: http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
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when your 21 and in college, plus gotta pay rent and just dropped 8 grand on a car and theres kinda high insurance i doubt that i can afford much else than xxr's.... lol
There is a different between doing things right on a budget, and budget modding. If you can't afford to do something the right way, you should hold off until you can. If you want a Ferrari you don't buy a Fiero. That's a general rule of thumb for modding.

And as said repeatedly, you're wanting to do something that you have no grasp of to the car.
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when your 21 and in college, plus gotta pay rent and just dropped 8 grand on a car and theres kinda high insurance i doubt that i can afford much else than xxr's.... lol
Sounds like this isn't the hobby for you at this point in your life.
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Agreed
I have been thinking about it and i use my wrx for things that are not suited for a stanced car such as working at a ski mtn, i would get very tired of driving 4 mph worrying about fenders and wheels going up to the mtn lol but one day yes i suppose i should go low
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It amazes me how the nasioc forums are known for the friendliness and helpfulness of the users. And then every so often you get people like these know-it-all ******** who won't give any useful help to someone actually willing to admit he needs help. Bunch of ********. And fyi, thousands of people run XXR's everyday! They look great and work fine! I even used Rota C10's on a Honda EP3 once and they worked great for 3year til I sold the car.
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It amazes me how the nasioc forums are known for the friendliness and helpfulness of the users. And then every so often you get people like these know-it-all ******** who won't give any useful help to someone actually willing to admit he needs help. Bunch of ********. And fyi, thousands of people run XXR's everyday! They look great and work fine! I even used Rota C10's on a Honda EP3 once and they worked great for 3year til I sold the car.
I have found there are two sides to this forum, the friendly and helpful side, and then there's the side that flames people for not knowing anything about what they are asking for help with...which is really quite pathetic if you ask me. The OP gets flamed for not knowing anything about what he is asking about? That's why they're asking about it in the first place! Then these **** heads come on here and flame them for asking about it? Where is the logic in that? Oh wait...I forgot that common sense and logic are becoming rarer by the day...

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There is a different between doing things right on a budget, and budget modding. If you can't afford to do something the right way, you should hold off until you can. If you want a Ferrari you don't buy a Fiero. That's a general rule of thumb for modding.

And as said repeatedly, you're wanting to do something that you have no grasp of to the car.
I completely agree with this, but the term "Budget" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. To some it means buying the absolute best parts you can and doing the work yourself to save on labor, to others it means buying "cheaper" parts that, in the long run, will serve the same purpose just as well as the top shelf part as they are essentially the exact same part, but without the "brand name", and having someone else do the work because they don't have the tools, time, and/or skill to do it themselves, it may even be buying the cheaper parts and doing the work themselves because they simply don't have $10-20K laying around to dump on a project like everyone on here that flames the DIYer seams to have .

What some people on here need to understand is that not everyone has $3-6K to drop on a set of wheels because they have more important things to spend that money on like collage/university, mortgage, rent, etc. Anyone ever heard of priorities?

I can understand people flaming Rotas, they do have a history of failing catastrophically, but XXRs are a different story. There are thousands of purpose build track cars that run XXRs all over the world with zero issues. If you are going to track your car/build a race car for events like auto x, time attack, etc. and you are on a budget, Volk wheels make no sense from a cost-benefit stand point, weight savings aside, XXRs will do the exact same job in the exact same way. So why buy wheels that cost a thousand dollars for 1 wheel when you can get 4 for a little more than half of that and, to everyone outside of a professional racer, never notice the difference from the Volks? Not to mention the couple thousand dollars you now have that can be put to other improvements that will substantially outweigh the slight performance benefit of the more expensive wheel. The price difference from Volks to XXRs will pay for a competition worthy brake system, and everyone that knows a thing or two about on-track performance will agree that a significant increase in braking performance is far more important that saving a couple pounds from each wheel.

If you have $50K+ to through down on a car build then by all means get the Volks, but for the average guy that doesn't have nearly that much laying around, the cost-benefit ratio is nowhere near justifiable.

I'm a student just like the OP, but since my program is a Co-op program, I do have more to spend on my car. With that being said I decided to leave the 18x9.75 +20 XXR 527 with 225 tires that came with the car when I bought it last year and get flares and tires that actually fit the rim instead of buying Volks or Enkeis or Advans that didn't need to have the car stanced in order to fit and do the work myself. Why? Because I have the tools and skills to do so and because, to me, like many TRUE car guys and unlike "brand name" fan boys, being able to turn around and be proud of what you BUILT and have people admire what you BUILT is far more important than knowing you have "brand name" parts on your car and having people admire the brand of parts you bought and had someone else put on for you instead of admiring the car itself.

Just because it's cheaper doesn't automatically mean it's so inferior that you shouldn't put it on your car. Yes you have to do more research, but that's half the fun. Learning new things along the way that you didn't know before and wouldn't have bumped into if you had just bought the brand name part.

Rant over.
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Completely ignoring that you idiots bumped a 2 year old thread.....

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It amazes me how the nasioc forums are known for the friendliness and helpfulness of the users. And then every so often you get people like these know-it-all ******** who won't give any useful help to someone actually willing to admit he needs help. Bunch of ********. And fyi, thousands of people run XXR's everyday! They look great and work fine! I even used Rota C10's on a Honda EP3 once and they worked great for 3year til I sold the car.
apparently you missed the part where OP is poor as **** and is putting himself in a bad financial spot by spending money on **** he doesnt need.

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I can understand people flaming Rotas, they do have a history of failing catastrophically, but XXRs are a different story.
You mean Rotas, that have a rich history of being used by some of the fastest cars in the world? XXR can't say the same, they have PROVEN to be structurally inferior to just about every wheel on the market.

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What some people on here need to understand is that not everyone has $3-6K to drop on a set of wheels because they have more important things to spend that money on like collage/university, mortgage, rent, etc. Anyone ever heard of priorities?

EXACTLY. PRIORITIES. if all you can afford is the very bottom of the barrel, then maybe you should RETHINK your PRIORITIES because this ain't the hobby for you at this point in your life.


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Please show me. I'm talking COMPETITIVE cars, not some piece of **** someone took to a track day. I know of 1, and they went through 3 sets last season. . And don't post drift cars.

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Why? Because I have the tools and skills to do so and because, to me, like many TRUE car guys and unlike "brand name" fan boys, being able to turn around and be proud of what you BUILT and have people admire what you BUILT is far more important than knowing you have "brand name" parts on your car and having people admire the brand of parts you bought and had someone else put on for you instead of admiring the car itself.
just because you built a piece of ****, doesn't somehow mean its better because you "built" it, and definitely doesn't have anything to do with what you call "true car guys".

They'd probably tell you to spend the money once.

They'd probably also tell you that if you're in school, you are poor (maybe you have a trust fund?), and spending money on cars isn't the best idea.

You do NOT have to spend top dollar on every single part on your car, that is true. But justifying inferior parts because of budget and saying "they're just the same" is NOT true.
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Hi every one. Such a bad tone in here btw, i dont get why some people want to deside if a guy wants to put money in a project or not. It is his money, not yours? So why even bother??

I want to mount gold XXR 527 17x8,25+35 on my 2007 Impreza 5x100 (WRX). The tires will be 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle, the car have STI Brembo's mounted. KYB AGX suspension with Eibach 30mm lovering progessive springs, Whiteline 22mm rear swaybar. Will these fit without problems?? Bad idea to go +20 in offset right, or 8,75 in width?
I have 5mm spacers in the front to clear the Brembo's on allmost any 17" rims, running Sparco Pro Corsa black 17x7,5+48 at the moment (Sparco will be winter tyres, and XXR summer).

Thoughts about this??
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If you go look at the wheel fitment thread I posted pics of my xxr 527's 17x8.25 +25 on my 05 RS
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Link please? I assume its a several pages long tread?

Is your RS lowered?
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its lowered about 1 inch on mach v springs, heres a pic, the tires are tall as well though.
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It looks nice indeed!

Do you have offset 20 or 35 on yours (I cant find any 25 at my dealer here in Denmark)? Any mods or problems with the rims/tyre (size?)?

I don't know if i should choose 8,25 with 35 offset, og 8,75 with 20 ofset, or the other way around. I dont want to mod the car to the new wheels.
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It looks nice indeed!

Do you have offset 20 or 35 on yours (I cant find any 25 at my dealer here in Denmark)? Any mods or problems with the rims/tyre (size?)?

I don't know if i should choose 8,25 with 35 offset, og 8,75 with 20 ofset, or the other way around. I dont want to mod the car to the new wheels.
mine are 17x8.25 +25 and i had to roll the rears a lot, i would go with the 8.25 +35 that way you wont have to do much rolling if any. my tires rubbed for a bit but after i rolled it fixed that.
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Okay, i will order the 8,25 with 35 offset. Was my first thought allso, but i wanted to hear the right choice by some one who has the experience with the rims

Thanks alot!

How is the quality of the rims, compared to etc. Rota? I hear both alot of negative talk and positive things about the rims
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mine are 17x8.25 +25 and i had to roll the rears a lot, i would go with the 8.25 +35 that way you wont have to do much rolling if any. my tires rubbed for a bit but after i rolled it fixed that.
Poor tire choice and suspension not suitable for aggressive fitments will cause you to do more work than needed.

It's usually helpful to include tire specs and suspension setup.
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