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Old 12-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #1
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Question sooo does anyone know where to buy drums of E-85? I called 3 distributors and the smallest amount I got was 1000 gallons and highest was 8000 gallons minimum purchase, AFTER I said it was for personal use for my personal vehicle.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:21 PM   #2
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I wish, I'm out in New Mexico near nothinng. I just drive to Lubbock about 90 minutes away every two weeks and fill up the car and 6 gas cans with e-85. If they had anything above 91 octane then I probably wouldn't bother, but the car is just not as much fun without 93/e-85 to put in it
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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Call your local track. They usually buy in bulk and sell off drums.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:31 PM   #4
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Call your local track. They usually buy in bulk and sell off drums.
I didn't even think of that, thanks.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:47 PM   #5
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Sometimes the "middle man" is needed. Raises the cost/gal but makes it a reasonable purchase.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:38 PM   #6
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Maybe these guys?

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Old 12-14-2012, 07:53 PM   #7
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Why not just order from VP fuels? That's what we do? Or find a VP dealer and order from him. We buy fuel in 55 gallon barrels
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:34 PM   #8
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:21 AM   #9
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Man, looking at VP fuel prices, E-85 works out to over $10 a gallon (not even sure if that includes shipping or extras like a pump handle). Even going to Lubbock I still come way out on top of that (about 15gal of e-85 round trip used)!
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:47 AM   #10
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Ethanol usually separates quiet rapidly while stored for excessive periods of time, it is a very poor idea to keep it in storage unless you would like E-60.
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:08 AM   #11
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Ethanol usually separates quiet rapidly while stored for excessive periods of time, it is a very poor idea to keep it in storage unless you would like E-60.
Not so much storage. I drive 70 miles round trip to and from work. I figure I will be getting about 18 average mpg 15city/20hwy( very rough ideas). Plus normal driving so probably a 55 gallon drum every week or 2.

Would that be too much desperation time?
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:02 AM   #12
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Man, looking at VP fuel prices, E-85 works out to over $10 a gallon (not even sure if that includes shipping or extras like a pump handle). Even going to Lubbock I still come way out on top of that (about 15gal of e-85 round trip used)!
Yes it is more expensive than the pump, but it's cheaper than C16.
We have 55 gallons of VP's C85 headed to the shop for our Orestes's STi. We were running C16 at $13-16, so $10 a gallon is cheaper but in his situation it's his only option to be able to get E85 when he's in Mexico.
Also if you are running ID2000's then pump E85 can destroy your injectors but C85 is pure without all the additives that have been known to cause injector issues with the ID2000's.
We will be using C85 to make 800hp on Orestes's STi next month!
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:54 AM   #13
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Not so much storage. I drive 70 miles round trip to and from work. I figure I will be getting about 18 average mpg 15city/20hwy( very rough ideas). Plus normal driving so probably a 55 gallon drum every week or 2.

Would that be too much desperation time?
Honestly, you're not looking for high hp numbers. Why go e85? You have to pay a bunch for the set up, a lot for a fuel that you are already having trouble finding. And you said 55 gallon drum every week or two? Jeez, I go two weeks on 20 gallons. If you really just want something to throw money at, build a second motor. Or help a buddy out with some aftermarket ej22t parts. You could pay to build my motor and it would still be at least a grand cheaper than you are looking at.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:27 PM   #14
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Readily available E85 is still the only thing stopping me from making the switch. Looking at $10/gal, having to buy and store my own drums, and significantly less mpg isn't exactly motivating.

I don't think VP E85 is worth it unless absolutely needed. If you get tuned on their high quality fuel you're kinda stuck running it IMO.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:27 PM   #15
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I was going to buy a couple of clean drums and make a trip every couple of months and just top them off at a gas station about two hour round trip
But we got e85 a month before I finished my build
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:10 PM   #16
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I was going to buy a couple of clean drums and make a trip every couple of months and just top them off at a gas station about two hour round trip
But we got e85 a month before I finished my build
Thought about this as well, but you would need a small trailer for all that. A full 55gal drum weighs a LOT! You would basically have to keep the trailer in the garage when using it unless you had one of those nice dollys made for moving drums around. Also would need a pumping device. In the end, I just bought some nice 5 gal ethanol rated metal gas cans and do the drive into Lubbock every two weeks (also watch a movie/shopping/indoor gun range to do) and keep the windows cracked to keep it all properly ventilated.
I will be happy to be out of here in three weeks and back in Dallas for a month before heading off to Afghanistan!
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:27 AM   #17
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i would be looking at torco rather than e85 if i couldnt get it within 25 miles or so of where i needed it
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:25 PM   #18
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Thought about this as well, but you would need a small trailer for all that. A full 55gal drum weighs a LOT!
55gal x 6.5lb/gal = 357.5lb
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You could get a pallet of E98 shipped to you (4 drums), and mix it yourself. Then you know the percentage, and what kind of gasoline you use. Could use 87, 93, or even VP Import if you're feeling feisty.

Your neighbors, the EPA, and your insurance carrier may not like this plan.
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