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Old 08-17-2002, 02:12 AM   #1
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Smile soon to be WRX owner needs safety info

Hey Ya'll

This is my first post here....

Im 16 and for my upcoming 17th b-day my dad decided to give in and buy me a WRX wagon ( since I have had to put up with a deteriorating 89' Dodge Ramcharger) that I had become in love with ever since this spring when I saw it at a rally in my hometown of San Jose, Costa Rica

My dad, however, is for some reason completely convinced that the car is not all stable and is very worried about my safety in it despite info from the dealer and magazines( I showed him where the car was rated one of the 10 best). He agreed to let me drive it on the weekends until I became a better driver and until then Im stuck with the Ram

Im sure if my dad heard about info on the safety, security, and stability of the car from people who own them and have used them in adverse situations and come out alive because of it, then he would finally let me have it full time.

Thank ya'll so much

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Old 08-17-2002, 02:30 AM   #2
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The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rated the 2002 Subaru Impreza as a "Best Pick" in the Small Car class:


Here you can view the crash test video of the Impreza:


You're actually safer in the Impreza than the Ram. The only possibility for trouble is that the WRX has a lot of power. We all know that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Old 08-17-2002, 03:15 AM   #3
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Wow, he thinks the WRX is unstable? lol

Don't diss too hard on the ram. My first vehicle was an '86 Ramcharger with a 318, 4" lift and 36 inch mud tires. Also had a pair of RF 15's and a RF amp in the back. God how I wish I still had that truck. It was sooooo fun to drive.
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Old 08-17-2002, 09:06 AM   #4
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just tell him the car has AWD and is best rated in its class regarding safety issue...
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Old 08-17-2002, 06:39 PM   #5
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Well, while it's very crash-worthy, and will protect you better than a lot of other cars in a collision, it is not exactly what I would call "stable", especially at speed. It's a little under-sprung, which can make it squirrely in a high speed turn/brake situation.

However, by your name I assume you are female, and thus (sweeping generalization here) will not suffer from testosterone poisoning that makes to many younger guys stuff their cars into the weeds so often. But you might. the car is fine, for a fairly high performance car, but it can get you in more trouble, faster, and you have to respect that.

Try to go to some autocrosses or track days if you end up getting it. It will make you a much better driver, and familiarize you with the car's easily-reached limits in a safe place.
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Old 08-17-2002, 07:00 PM   #6
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I think your father is a wise man. Why not only drive it on weekends until you learn to drive it? And don't feel bad about that I'm 26 and it took me a few weeks to get a feel for the car. (I still haven't gotten a feel near limits - break in period. :/ ) Nothing wrong with a truck per se but the Subie will be safer for sure. And hey, if you dad is worried then you should get him to chip in on a defensive driving school - it might lower your insurance (it does for many, so check into it) which might pay for it in the "long run," and plus I've heard they're pretty fun and it will help you be a better driver whatever you drive.

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Old 08-18-2002, 02:53 AM   #7
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Yea, I just found out about the Subaru being the #1 ranked car in its class by IIHS... beating out the likes of the Volvo S40 and others. If this car is more crashworthy than a Volvo, that's good enough for me.

But yea, this car does have the ability to push itself to the limits rather quickly -- that would be its downfall. However, I personally find the braking and handling to be rather good.

If you look around the board, you'll find several posts from I Clubbers who have been in accidents. Obviously they've lived to tell the tale... I think the Subaru has pretty good crashworthiness from the things I've read about where the author prefaces the story with the fact that he and his passengers were ok, but the loss of the car sucks.

If you dig around, you'll also find threads where people post the pictures they have of wrecked Subarus and some don't look pretty. I've seen one misshapened into a "Z" and another wrapped around a street light -- a drag race gone wrong when the driver tried to avoid a pedestrian I think. I'm pretty sure in both, survival was impossible.

So, to sum it up, I think the Subaru is an excellent, crashworthy, and safe car. It's up to you to be responsible enough to keep the car well within your driving ability (and with the turbo lag, its not that hard ). It's just like any safe car -- it'll protect you under most conceivable circumstances (and many inconceivable ones too), but if you introduce it to a steel street light at 100 mph, no car will save you.
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Old 08-18-2002, 04:06 AM   #8
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The WRX is by far THE MOST STABLE CAR i have ever driven in my entire life. When you get it, have your dad take it for a spin too so he can see what everyone else on these forums raves about all the time. The handling on the rex is insane. But like Skyline said... Power Corrupts... you = anakin skywalker, wrx = darth sidious ... be careful with the car though... dont take the stability for granted because a lot of idiots out there think they are invincible in their wrx, but they only end up raising our insurance premiums when they wreck it.
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Old 08-18-2002, 11:53 AM   #9
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AWD, Side and front airbags. Highly rated crash testing. But one thing thats going to make the car unsafe is those tires. Tell him that and you might end up with some great new ones!
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Old 08-19-2002, 03:56 AM   #10
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Default Tell your dad thanks

Tell your dad thanks. He's doing you a favor. The WRX is a good, safe and relatively stable car, but it is deceptively quick. Until you have some seat time in it, you will not realize just how fast it can get you in over your head.

There are lots of cars that make much more fuss as they get up to serious speed. The WRX is capable of sneaking you up well over safe speeds with no muss no fuss. You just look down at the speedo and say "Holy crap" and then get back back down to a sensible velocity.

The first time you get the clutch release and throttle right for max acceleration when You are trying to make a left turn or something like that will be a very big surprise. Its like a really fun carnival ride except this one completely in your hands.

Enjoy the learning experience, it is a great car, but you need to give yourself some time to get in sync with the car and its capabilities. The brakes and steering are much better than most cars, but the stock tires could be better. It is easy for a new driver (even someone like myself who has been driving for many years ) to over drive the stock tires in some situations.

Have a good time with the new car!
You'll love the car and the transition back and forth between the WRX and the Ram will help you feel the difference in performance and appreciate the WRX and what its capabilities are.


PS. some time at an autocross would be worth its weight in gold for you to learn the cars handling characteristics.
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Old 08-19-2002, 08:49 AM   #11
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Default Re: soon to be WRX owner needs safety info

Originally posted by Diesel'sKate

My dad, however, is for some reason completely convinced that the car is not all stable and is very worried about my safety in it...
Sorry to disagree w/ what seems to be the popular sentiment here, but "stable" isn't the issue... It's whether any new, inexperienced driver should be driving a relatively high horsepower sports car. Having been there and luckily survived it, and now as a track driving instructor, I've gotta say, NO.

Focussing on the safety of the car isn't the point, it's the safety of the driver. Driver's Ed and a year of experience just won't prepare you for the many potentially dangerous (to you and those driving next to, and towards you) situations the WRX can deliver you to quicker than you can blink.

Not to dissappoint you, but start with a front wheel drive car with half the hp of the WRX for at least 2-3 years before moving up... The life you save may be mine.
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Old 08-19-2002, 01:42 PM   #12
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Or,,,, the basic Impreza is an awsome car, with a little less of the get you in over your head potential the WRX has. I often think what would it would have been like to have this car when I was your age. One of two things come to mind. I would now be a World Rally driver,,, or DEAD,,, leaning a little more towards the latter. The WRX is one of the best handling most stabe cars I have ever driven, and a lot of fun, but that turbo has a tendency to put me into situations I have to think quick or just plain react and I'm afraid you do not have enough time behind the wheel to "react" I have done a lot of crazy things in cars and trucks and a with a lot more time behind the wheel doing them, not to mention totaling a couple in the process (lucky to still be hear). As mentioned earlier the lack of testosterone may save you form doing some of the stupid stuff I have done. I do understand that if someone had offered me a WRX at your age there is no way on this earth I would have turned it down, as a matter of fact I would have fought for it. But just think about it first, I looked at the base modle and its an awsome car.

Just a thought.

You will have a blast with what ever car you get, just take it slow and enjoy.
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