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Old 02-05-2013, 06:16 PM   #1276
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Can anyone recommend a shop for to get inspection and emissions done? I'm due this month.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:06 AM   #1277
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Accessport coming today... Bout to go stage 1 finally.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:19 AM   #1278
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You'll love it!

I recommend checking out Torqued Performance maps, they are really solid and he will customize them for you if needed.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:09 AM   #1279
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You'll love it!

I recommend checking out Torqued Performance maps, they are really solid and he will customize them for you if needed.
Nice. Are they that much better than the Cobb OTS maps?
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:16 AM   #1280
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Yes...

The Cobb maps are "blanket" maps made to fit Subies all over.

A customized map to your vehicle will respond much better than the Cobb maps.

Think of it this way, Cobb maps are like one size fits all sweatpants, the TP map will be like a custom tailored suit.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:31 AM   #1281
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Any clue roughly how much an actual tune at a ship costs?
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:32 AM   #1282
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Any clue roughly how much an actual tune at a ship costs?
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #1283
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$500.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #1284
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$500.

You can also go with an Etune.

I had my car Etuned over 30k ago and it still runs great, the best part is it only cost me $99

If your interested in the Etune I would suggest Stephen Clark of IA Performance.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, as I went over just about every single option available to me when in was looking for a tune.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:38 AM   #1285
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Damn, I can see why one would go with TP for the basic mods. How do they tailor a map to your personal vehicle?
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:40 AM   #1286
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$500.

You can also go with an Etune.

I had my car Etuned over 30k ago and it still runs great, the best part is it only cost me $99

If your interested in the Etune I would suggest Stephen Clark of IA Performance.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, as I went over just about every single option available to me when in was looking for a tune.
Sweet I'm sure I'll have many. I want to do it right.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:55 AM   #1287
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Damn, I can see why one would go with TP for the basic mods. How do they tailor a map to your personal vehicle?
TP was one of the only companies I didn't look at (I had no idea they existed)

But if its an Etune like IA Performance then they send you a base map, you log idle, 2k rpms, and 3k rpms, then email the logs back, they tweak the map and send it back.

After those logs are done then you move to the wot logs.

The only thing people don't like about Etunes is that you have to find a place where you can go wot from 2.5k rpms to 6k rpms in 3rd(for the 5spd)
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:58 AM   #1288
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Damn, I can see why one would go with TP for the basic mods. How do they tailor a map to your personal vehicle?
Found it. So they use the accesstuner race software (which is free) from Cobb to tune your vehicle. I'm assuming this logs ur vehicle's running data which in turn I send to TP? From this they tailor a map to best fit your vehicle?
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #1289
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Yep, its pretty simple. They send you a base map then you log a pull and send it back to him, he'll make some changes and send you an update. For the price you can't beat it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:35 PM   #1290
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Yep, its pretty simple. They send you a base map then you log a pull and send it back to him, he'll make some changes and send you an update. For the price you can't beat it.
That's straight. So is the only difference between this avenue and a shop tune the fact that ur on a dyno and can get actual to the wheel numbers?
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:46 PM   #1291
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Eh, pretty close. I would still say the shop and dyno tune are the absolute best, but for the price difference I would still recommend an Etune like TP. Especially in the early stages where you are likely to still add things to it.

If you spend 500 on a pro-tune and then decide you want to upgrade the injectors or ewg or something like that you have to spend another 500 to re-tune it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:56 PM   #1292
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Yea, I figured it wouldn't make sense cash wise to get a shop tune until your happy with where ur car is for the time being.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:13 PM   #1293
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For stage 1 and 2 an etune is plenty, after that is when you would want to drop the money for a pro-tune.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:35 PM   #1294
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I am what some people would call stg3 (pnp vf39, ewg, headers,etc..)and I will always use road tuning over dyno tuning. Even after I build my motor and slap my custom 20G on.

Road tuning gives you real world characteristics such as drag and down force, characteristic that just cannot be accounted for on a dyno.

Plus having a dyno sheet with numbers on it is just that, a piece of paper with numbers on it. Pretty much every dyno is going to read differently.

If you really want dyno sheet to make you feel all warm and fuzzy about all the work you have put into your car, there are plenty of very accurate programs you can put your logs into and get a graph showing WHP&TQ

Just my .02
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:29 PM   #1295
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Jim! Tune my car!!! :-P
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:26 PM   #1296
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God I wish I had the knowledge/capabilities to tune these cars
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:10 PM   #1297
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So I called rallysportdirect and talked with them. Cobb is supposed to be contacting me tomorrow... Anyway, when I plug the accessport into the OBD-ll port to initiate the installation it just shows the Cobb logo on the screen. I should be able to select "install" but its just the Cobb logo. Very odd. It's like the unit itself isn't for my vehicle year and therefore isn't registering.

Anyone have any ideas?
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:17 PM   #1298
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The last time I heard they didn't have 2013 support. I'm sure things have changed since then.


Edit: Looks like it came out late November. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2406649
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:19 PM   #1299
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And you turned the key to acc? That's strange. I thought I saw they supports 2013 now but I'm not sure.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #1300
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The last time I heard they didn't have 2013 support. I'm sure things have changed since then.

Edit: Looks like it came out late November. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2406649
Yea they def have support. I purchased the "2013" accessport.
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