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Old 02-18-2012, 11:56 PM   #1
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I don't know why I am torturing myself with an audio pre-planning build log, as today is the only day I had more than a few hours of free time since the tax return influx began at my part-time CPA firm. But anyhow, I guess I will state my plans. I am planning on purchasing a Double DIN HU of some sort and a Mosconi DSP 6to8 for my processor.

I already own some Soundstream Reference RF3.6C component speakers with a smaller Eclipse tweeter. My plan is to mount the tweeter in the stock location and the mid in the pillar:


I also have some a pillars out of a crashed Impreza:


and here is a closeup of the mid and a pillar:


For amplifiers, I'll probably power the mid and tweet with a Lunar L450 and my midbass drivers with a Lunar L100x2 or L2125. For subs, I plan on using some of those Credence clearence subs (Bostwick) fired through the pass through with an old school servo drive and either an Orion 275SX or Orion 280GX bridged to the subs. The servo drive will allow me to place each 10 in a .36 cubic foot net sealed and have them perform as if they are in the proper sized ported enclosure. Think of it (the servo) as a Linkwitz transform circuit that goes one step further by applying negative feedback to the input stage of the amplifier while it is compensating for the less than ideal enclosure.

If that doesn't work to my liking, I also have a Digital Designs 1508 and a Digital Designs 510 that I can use instead along with a Lunar L2200 that I can bridge to them. I like my Louisiana manufactured amplifiers!

My goal is to make the subwoofer somewhat easy to remove since I use the pass through about 4 times a year to bring things home. I may just start borrowing a friend's truck, lol. Although time is short right now, at least I can refer back to my photos and keep my eye on the goal to make it past April 15th so I can start building my audio setup. While making the money may be torture right now, spending it after April 15 should be enjoyable!
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Old 02-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #2
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Sounds like it's going to be an awesome setup! Love the fact your running the Lunars, almost went that way myself. Actully big +1 to everything you have going on except the servo idea. Sounds cool as heck and all but I'm lost on the benifit of altering the input circuit for a problem that's easily solved acousticly. What exactly is the reason for the teeny tiny enclosures?
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Well, the servo was designed back in the day when subwoofers took huge enclosures and were fairly efficient on low power. IIRC, the engineer who built it to work with the 280GX designed it using his business partner's Corvette as the model. I will say this though, back in the day it was impressive to see a pair of 15s in 3 cubic feet net sealed sounding as if they were in the proper ported enclosure. Even back then, they required 4 to 6 cubic feet ported PER 15.

Here are some pics of it:




On second thought, you are right, maybe it is just time for me to put all that old stuff up for sale and say goodbye to the past! While servo drive subs are great for a controlled environment such as a house, the effects are negated by all the extraneous variables in the automobile.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:46 AM   #4
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Man that is BEAUTIFUL!!! I think your right, would be a lot of fun to play with in the sound room!! If that unit is for sale I would like to know about it!

Man I vote for the 1508 glassed in your back corner in a nice "SQ"ish ported box FTW. I think that subs have to be one of the catagories I'd say where new school mostly kills old school, especially with output. Sure would like to hear this car when it's done!
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:29 PM   #5
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Finally, an update as the parts begin to arrive via USPS with others en route via USPS and Brown Santa:

Axxess steering wheel controller from ae64.com:


Subaru 20 pin harness from ae64.com:


Aux input adapter from ae64.com:


Found this while digging through boxes:


System plan as it currently sits:
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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Do you have the USB/Aux connectors in the center console like the STi does? What are your plans for hooking them up?
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:07 PM   #7
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Sure do. See this thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2379118

I'm waiting on those parts to come in too! I ordered an extra hirose connector just in case I mess one up. If all goes well, I may be able to make an extra one.
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:59 PM   #8
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Man, soldering on this Hirose Electric GT17HN-4DP-2H(A) was not fun:



Oh well, at least I should be able to retain my factory USB now. I am going to epoxy over the pins to keep them in place after this tropical storm mess is over with!

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Old 09-23-2012, 03:44 AM   #9
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Oh welp, the Genesis Profile 16 components are out. JL Audio Evolution C5-650s it is.

Looking for a tweeter that fits the factory sails?

The C5s were a better choice for easy installation in the factory sails because it is like the tweeter was made for this location:



A little of Don @ sound deadener showdown's CCF applied to the back to form a wedgie:






All ready to go:


All I need is TIME to finish the install! I meet with an attorney Monday, I'm going to be in court on Tuesday, and I am scheduled for Federal Jury Duty for October 01, 2012. FFS, I am a Certified Public Accountant, not an attorney.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:32 PM   #10
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Well, I finished up the install on Sunday, around 7 PM or so, and by 5PM today, I had a RMA from Crutchfield for that DEH-80PRS. The display washes out in the sun/glare and that annoying beep confirmation for every function is a deal breaker. As soon as my wife leaves for work in the morning, I'm yanking it out.

Don't know what I am going to do next, but it looks like it won't be cheap.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #11
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You seriously can't turn the beep off? I've been able to on every HU I've ever come across with a button beep. Annoying!
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #12
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Well, I finished up the install on Sunday, around 7 PM or so, and by 5PM today, I had a RMA from Crutchfield for that DEH-80PRS. The display washes out in the sun/glare and that annoying beep confirmation for every function is a deal breaker. As soon as my wife leaves for work in the morning, I'm yanking it out.

Don't know what I am going to do next, but it looks like it won't be cheap.
You can disable the beep function.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:47 PM   #13
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You can disable the beep function.
Please tell me how... Also, I am not talking about the annoying alarm when I turn the HU off. I'm talking about the beep that happens when I change tracks, push the volume up, push the source/mode button, etc. on the steering wheel controller.

ETA: The Pioneer rep I spoke to told me that the remote control beep thing is a safety feature to serve as confirmation so one does not have to take their eyes off the road. It is also the reason it can not be disabled.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:16 PM   #14
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Pretty sure it is in the menu that you access while the unit is off but the car is in accessory. I have a Pioneer in my truck and I turned it off. Same in my Legacy, when I had it. I think the setting is something called "beep confirm" or "confirm beep" or something similar. If you got the unit from crutchfield, call them. I am pretty sure I found the answer to shut it down on a google search or on caraudio.com
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:44 AM   #15
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Oh well, I guess I will finish posting the other pics...

Here is the hirose connector after putting some non-conductive epoxy on the pins:

Missing is the photo where I used heat shrink just to be double sure!

I ended up making some birch baffles to fit the C5-650 woofer:


I didn't get a pic, but I wrapped the stock connector in painter's tape and used a piece of deadener to hold it to the door. It doesn't rattle that way and technically I should be able to pull the deadener, unwrap the painter's tape, to return the car to stock.

This is what I did to the door card:

Butyl rope on the mystical white box and a little deadening for grins.

Unfortunately, I was low on deadener, so I didn't get a chance to do the doors yet..

Amp under the seat:


HU in the dash kit:


A shot of how I fired the woofer into the rear seatback:

I made a bonehead mistake while tightening down the hurricane nut inserts hence the reason for the ring. I cracked the baffle bad because I forgot to take the rechargable driver out of drill mode and dial in a torque value.


If I end up pushing on, a custom ported corner loaded FG enclosure is in the near future. November is a slow month for me, so I will tackle it then.

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Old 10-06-2012, 05:23 PM   #16
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Here it is with the Forester DIN pocket:



Just waiting on my JDM radio bezel to arrive!
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:03 PM   #17
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And it has arrived:


Need to drop my radio a hair on the left, but that is about to be a wrap on this install.

EDIT: This is as good as I can get it without changing pocket mounting solutions

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Old 10-11-2012, 11:21 AM   #18
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Old school! Nice! I haven't seen a DD sub in years.
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Really interested in how the servo sub setup works out! You should post up your build log on DIYMA.com, I'm sure people would be into seeing it. I have my 2010 WRX build up there you can check out if you like also (ecbmxer on there also).
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10/10 would build
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:53 AM   #21
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I really need to build a sub enclosure more than once every few years:



Granted, I did rush to build this box, so mistakes were inevitable. It was just a test to see if I could live with a single 8" sub, and well, I can.

EDIT: And here it is with a D2 1508. I decided to replace the class ab L100x2 bridged at 4 ohms with the more efficient switching power supply L1500 to give me 500 watts @ 1 ohm.


All I can say, is the way Kenny underrates his Lunar Amplifiers... That L1500 with its 500 rated watts seems like a LOT more power @ 1 ohm than the L100x2 rated at 400 watts bridged to 4 ohms. There is no way there is only 100 watts of difference between those two amplifiers.

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