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Old 06-13-2012, 11:58 AM   #101
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Excellent. Thanks for your advice regarding what products to buy, and the incremental approach to use. I'm thinking I'll be satisfied without the subwoofer.
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:57 PM   #102
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Anyone wanna sell their stock 2012 radio? PM me if so.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:34 PM   #103
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What's the best way to add a Sirius radio receiver to a 2012 Impreza Sport Premium?
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:47 AM   #104
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Can't speak for the Impreza as I have yet to recieve mine, but from previous experience and other people's comments about the Impreza's audio, I would say spending $200 on an aftermarket headunit will achieve better results for less money than replacing speakers and keeping the stock headunit. From what I hear the biggest crutch to the system is the headunit.
As far as rear speakers go, you don't really need them if you upgrade your front speakers you don't need the rear fill and who cares about your friend that occasionally rides in the back seat.
If you do get better front speakers and a headunit, you may be happy w/o a sub.
I was totally fine with the sound coming out of my Audi A4 with Bose, no sub and stock headunit. Which didn't sound as good as a pioneer or something aftermarket would have.
In my 4Runner with stock everything it sounded terrible. Replaced just the H/U and I was happy
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:53 AM   #105
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Anyone wanna sell their stock 2012 radio? PM me if so.
Possibly but thinking of canibalizing it into a fake faceplate to cover my h/u. But It'll be at least another week and a half before I actually have my car in my hands. If you don't find one by then I'll hit you up. I don't see why you'd have a hard time getting a hold of one though.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:24 AM   #106
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Can't speak for the Impreza as I have yet to recieve mine, but from previous experience and other people's comments about the Impreza's audio, I would say spending $200 on an aftermarket headunit will achieve better results for less money than replacing speakers and keeping the stock headunit. From what I hear the biggest crutch to the system is the headunit.
Do others agree with this? Do you get more improvement from a new head unit connected to the original speakers than you do from new speakers connected to the original head unit?

This would surprise me, but I'm no expert. I would think that getting rid of the original paper speakers would provide the most bang for the buck.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:03 AM   #107
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Do others agree with this? Do you get more improvement from a new head unit connected to the original speakers than you do from new speakers connected to the original head unit?

This would surprise me, but I'm no expert. I would think that getting rid of the original paper speakers would provide the most bang for the buck.
I can't say how changing the speakers effects it but my Sony radio is hugeee improvement over the stock one. The sound quality is so much better and being able to change the eq and speaker fade helps alot.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:16 AM   #108
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I can't say how changing the speakers effects it but my Sony radio is hugeee improvement over the stock one. The sound quality is so much better and being able to change the eq and speaker fade helps alot.
Did you change just the radio but leave the original speakers? What model is your SONY radio? How much did you pay for it? If your car had steering wheel controls and Bluetooth, was it easy to preserve that functionality?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:25 AM   #109
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Do others agree with this? Do you get more improvement from a new head unit connected to the original speakers than you do from new speakers connected to the original head unit?

This would surprise me, but I'm no expert. I would think that getting rid of the original paper speakers would provide the most bang for the buck.
Before anyone goes out and spends money either a new headunit or new speakers, may I suggest tweaking the factory headunit in diagnostics mode. This only works for the Limited model headunits.

Here is a link to get into diagnostics mode:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...3/1056#MSG1056

I was seriously looking into getting a new headunit and speakers but found that tweaking in diagnostics mode improved sound quality greatly. You are able to turn on and off "EQ" mode and "Loudness" mode. Mess with this first and see if it helps sound quality for you.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:35 AM   #110
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Before anyone goes out and spends money either a new headunit or new speakers, may I suggest tweaking the factory headunit in diagnostics mode. This only works for the Limited model headunits.
This sounds like good advice. But I'm ordering a Sport Premium (the manual transmission doesn't come on the Limited), so I won't have the Limited's head unit.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:46 AM   #111
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Did you change just the radio but leave the original speakers? What model is your SONY radio? How much did you pay for it? If your car had steering wheel controls and Bluetooth, was it easy to preserve that functionality?
I had no steering wheel controls but I hear people have done it. I left the speakers though and it is a Sony xav-72bt. I wouldn't suggest getting it though if I had the choice again I would get the Pioneer similar one. I forget excatly but it was somewhere in the 400 range for price. I posted pictures of it in the 12 impreza picture thread along with my sub and new wheels.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:29 PM   #112
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Just got my deck. Now all I need is my car come into port and wiring harness/ASWC to come.
More torture... I read my car's user manual last night. Probably read the receivers user manual tonight... haha.


*Answered* "Speed In" is for the vehicle speed signal and "reverse in" is for the rear camera (which I figured it was)

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Old 06-15-2012, 11:37 PM   #113
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reverse is on pin 16 of the 16 pin harness.
(according to the service manual)

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Old 06-16-2012, 01:54 AM   #114
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Do others agree with this? Do you get more improvement from a new head unit connected to the original speakers than you do from new speakers connected to the original head unit?

This would surprise me, but I'm no expert. I would think that getting rid of the original paper speakers would provide the most bang for the buck.
sgoldste01,

I have the WRX not the sport but I assume the speakers are the same. Replacing just the head unit makes a significant difference. The speakers aren't great but they also aren't terrible with a new head unit they actually sound OK. The head unit on the other hand has terrible factory EQ and for whatever reason you cant adjust the EQ settings on the base head unit. So, if you are unhappy with the audio your best course of action is to replace the head unit.

Depending on the head unit you get you should be able to maintain most of your steering wheel controls using an Axxess ASWC or similar product. However there are complications that you run into with an aftermarket head unit. Read this excellent post to learn more about it. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1&postcount=18

If the issues described in the post seem like too much then getting new speakers and an under seat amp to power the speakers would be your other option. Most people don't think a new amp and speakers produce results as good as a new headunit. Some people add a JL CleanSweep to the amp and speakers and supposedly that yields better results.

These forums are filled with information on the topic and if you do some searching you will find answers to most of your questions.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:38 AM   #115
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Thanks for the info, Wildoats!
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:35 AM   #116
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The head unit on the other hand has terrible factory EQ and for whatever reason you cant adjust the EQ settings on the base head unit. So, if you are unhappy with the audio your best course of action is to replace the head unit.
Before I replace my base head unit, I have to ask this:

Since it sounds like the main problem with the base head unit is that it doesn't provide any kind of equalizer/bass/treble adjustments, would it be possible to add some kind of equalizer to the audio outputs of the base head unit without replacing the entire head unit?
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:52 AM   #117
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:47 PM   #118
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I replaced my head unit within two weeks of buying the car. It was that bad. I bought the Pioneer AVH-P8400BH headunit and had my 10" Infinity Basslink installed in the trunk. I had the shop put in a unit for 60 bucks that made the steering wheel controls all work like it did from the factory, and the new microphone is actually in the stock position.
As for the sound quality now, 800X BETTER. Even when I have the subwoofer turned off, the sound is phenomenal. I have had several people in my car ( I had to show it off) who have Acuras with the ELS sound system, and the bose in their Audis, and they all agree that it sounds better than their car does. The speakers do not need to be replaced. They handle some good power and produce great bass and have crystal clear highs. I have the basslink only for the real low notes because I like to feel my music.
Now, as for the bluetooth. The microphone does pick up every bit of road noise and I will have to find a better position for it. I have taken down the light/microphone fixture and put layers of sound deadening material around the microphone area and on the roof, but it still picks up too much (better, but not good enough to not have people complain). If anyone has any questions please let me know. I listen to everything from Dance/EDM/hip-hop/ a lot of jazz (Hugh Laurie's album could not sound better than in my car).
On a side note, I still have my stock head unit, and it amazes me that it is so light and is so empty. No wonder it sounded like crap.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:17 PM   #119
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You were going to spend over $800 on the dealer installs, yet you settle for this? I would aim higher. You are getting a sport premium and will have the aux and usb in the center console. You will lose that functionality. The headunit doesn't even have a rear usb meaning you cant run an cable out the back into the glovebox or something else hidden (like the center console). It means you'll plug in through the front only and have a cable sticking out off your unit when ever you want to plug in your ipod/phone/usb drive.

If you don't want to go the double din route. I would atleast get one with a nicer display such as this Note that it does not have a USB in the front, but 2 in the back. You can run a USB extention to the glovebox or somewhere else and keep it hidden. IMO the slight more hassle far out weighs the tackiness of a cable sticking out the front of your h/u

The most popular is the Pioneer line of dvd recievers. They're about $350 and up.
I went with the Sony XAV-601BT because the screen looks brighter than the Pioneers from what I've seen online. I couldn't find a local dealer that stocked either display models to compare. Also because the MirrorLink tech in the Sony and future of being able to use my Android phone through the headunit. The Pioneers do not have that, and Pioneer App Radio is terrible from what I've been hearing. MirrorLink will mirror most of your phone and you can control it from the screen. What you see on your phone is what you see on the display. AppRadio only uses specific apps designed for it.

I'm hoping once the SGSIII is out and about the mirrorlink will be ported to my Nexus relatively soon. If not I plan on keeping the headunit and car for a long time and eventually Android will pass the CCC certification, but right now its pretty much just phones no one uses.

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Old 06-21-2012, 07:28 PM   #120
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The most popular is the Pioneer line of dvd recievers. They're about $350 and up.
Hmmm, Crutchfield says the Pioneer AVH-P2400BT doesn't fit in the Impreza.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:23 AM   #121
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Hmmm, Crutchfield says the Pioneer AVH-P2400BT doesn't fit in the Impreza.
It won't say anyone fits the Impreza. The stock stereo is slightly (1/4 in on each side) wider than a regular din. Any one you stick in there will need a mounting kit. The problem is there hasn't been one made specifically for the 2012 Impreza, that is why Crutchfield says it doesn't fit. All you have to do is say you have a 2011/12 WRX and slightly modify that mount. Look through this forum. It's what everyone did.
The OP has a Pioneer H/U that basically is the one I linked, probably just better. The canadian Imprezas have Pioneer AVH-3300BT and AVIC-Z130BT (or similar) units.



Also btw, Hazmat101 if you're still following this, my car came from Sangera.
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:06 AM   #122
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How much room is under the seats? I was looking at getting a Sound Ordnance™ B-8PT
to go along with a AVH-P4400BH and something for speakers that is still TBD.

Sucks that I don't have a local sound shop to go to right now... but not really.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #123
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Hey folks! Long-time lurker, just took the plunge and bought a 2012 Impreza Sport Premium 5-speed and I love EVERYTHING about the car except the audio (seems I'm not alone! ). Are there any of you gents located in Northern Virginia who might have the same model and have swapped out the head unit and/or speakers? I'd love to hear the difference before I drop the cash on swapping everything out. I'm leaning towards one of the Pioneer AVH units, but I'd love to hear how different it sounds in person if possible. Either way, the head unit is definitely getting swapped as the stock audio is pretty meh IMO, still debating on the speakers.

Also I'm curious, did most of you guys ONLY do the head unit or did you replace all the speakers as well? For those who only changed the head unit, do the stock speakers actually sound decent and they're just held back by the stock head unit, or do they really need to get swapped to get a much better audio experience? I'm a guitarist, so personally-speaking, having decent audio in my car is a must! I don't mind paying a bit to do it right, but I also don't mind learning from others who have tried stuff and have knowledge to share on the subject! Thanks!
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I've got a question too, hopefully someone knows the answer to.
Are Sport Limiteds/Premiums pre-wired with GPS antennas?

We're looking to get a Sport Limited or Premium for my wife. I suppose she could use navigation, but shelling out 2k for the option isn't too attractive.
I got myself a BRZ with the same Nav unit as in Limited w/Nav which I'm probably replacing anyway, so would be nice to know that all the wires are there.

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Old 07-05-2012, 02:57 PM   #125
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I've got a question too, hopefully someone knows the answer to.
Are Sport Limiteds/Premiums pre-wired with GPS antennas?

We're looking to get a Sport Limited or Premium for my wife. I suppose she could use navigation, but shelling out 2k for the option isn't too attractive.
I got myself a BRZ with the same Nav unit as in Limited w/Nav which I'm probably replacing anyway, so would be nice to know that all the wires are there.

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No. You'll need to piece together your own wire harness. The F10 Nav from 2012/13 uses different connectors from ALL OTHER TRIMS, and is NOT a drop in replacement. I recently swapped out type A audio from my base 2012 for the F10 Nav and acquiring the right connectors/wire harnesses has been a challenge; still can't find the USB harness and XM radio antenna.

GPS antenna is common with certain Garmin model(s) and FM antenna adapter is common to certain Lexus model(s). None of the previous Subaru antenna adapters will fit the F10 Nav.
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