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Old 08-18-2002, 01:51 AM   #1
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Default How to get more on-center feel, more weighty steering?

I think the steering on the WRX is a bit overboosted, and doesn't really have the nice on-center feel. I guess caster might help both here. Has anyone with an ALK noticed an increase in steering effort and on-center feel?

I'm almost ready to junk the RE-92s and one of my tire shopping guidelines is to get a tire that will impart a more substantial feel to the steering. I've heard the Azenis do just this. Has anyone found a way to improve the steering a bit without a lot of work?
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Old 08-18-2002, 04:10 PM   #2
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I put an ALK on a few days ago. There is a definite difference in efforts, but its not huge. In fact I notice it more reversing out of my driveway than going forwards. The gains in turn-in are definitely worth the investment. Just be carefull on your shake down run. I almost clipped an inside curb just because the car responded so much faster (a little bit of toe-out helps with that too)

I know what you mean about the sluggish on-centre feel, I've been trying to eliminate it completely.

So far I've used 17" 45 series rubber, the ALK, and DMS40's. Of those 3 the rubber gave the best gains. I'm gonna mess with my camber maybe bump it up closer to -2deg.

One thing you shouldn't bother with if you're thinking about it are the whiteline rack bushings. They're not worth even the $20 cause they're a bugger to install and do piddley squat.

My ultimate solution to this sluggish feel would be to swap to a LHD STi rack (faster ratio 2.5 vs. 3 IIRC). But thats alot of $$.

Anyone with underdrive pulley's noticed an increase in steering efforts?


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Old 08-18-2002, 04:22 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Chunky_Chicken
I put an ALK on a few days ago. There is a definite difference
Anyone with underdrive pulley's noticed an increase in steering efforts?
-Pete
its only harder at super low rpms (parking)
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Old 08-18-2002, 04:29 PM   #4
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I think you're on the right track by thinking about tires. They probably make the most difference. I have 225/40R18 S-03s and one thing other WRX drivers often mention when driving my car is the better, heavier steering feel. And when I changed to snow tires (Pilot Alpins), the first thing I noticed is how much the steering went lighter.

So, get your tires first. They alone may that all you need.

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Old 08-18-2002, 04:35 PM   #5
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Hi,

If a more weighty feel is what you're going after, the easiest thing you can do is put on wider profile, stiff sidewall tires. Nothing else you do short of pulling the power steering pulley belt is gonna do it for you...at least not for the same amount of cash.

Case in point, I drove my buddy's similarly fitted WRX and after taking some slalom-like maneuvers, I thought there was something wrong with one of our steering systems. His was much more weighty, more centered, firmer in every way. What was the only difference? I am running the RE92s just like you are and he's running 225/40-R18 S-03s. Trust me, while unboosted steering gives by far the greatest feel, the tires are the next greatest factor.

Now quickness, that's a helluva lot harder to get. I imagine the fix then would be to stuff in a WRX STi RA rack. But I can think of more bang for the buck I can get for $2-4K

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Old 08-18-2002, 09:44 PM   #6
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More positive castor will do it. That's what the anti-lift kit will give you.
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Old 08-19-2002, 04:11 AM   #7
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(Toe Out)==================================(Toe In)

Turn in ability/ responsiveness--------------Stability/ Center-seeking
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Old 09-11-2002, 01:59 PM   #8
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One thing you shouldn't bother with if you're thinking about it are the whiteline rack bushings. They're not worth even the $20 cause they're a bugger to install and do piddley squat.
What makes you say this?

Have you tried them? I find it hard to belive that Whiteline would make a product that isn't work "piddley squat". After all ever single other product I've seen them produce are well worth the money and install/time effort.

Anyone have a set of these in there cars? I'm contemplating a set to put in when my engine is pulled.

Thanks - Jon
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Old 09-11-2002, 02:39 PM   #9
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turn the power steering off.....
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Old 09-11-2002, 03:05 PM   #10
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My quick response would be to get a true performance alignment. I had this done at a shop that will dial a number in down to the 1/100 of a degree, and it made so much difference I cant think of a good analogy.
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My quick response would be to get a true performance alignment. I had this done at a shop that will dial a number in down to the 1/100 of a degree, and it made so much difference I cant think of a good analogy.
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