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Old 06-02-2012, 11:05 PM   #1901
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I took it to mean the n/a big plenum long runner manifold. There is less failure points because the tgv housings and gaskets arent needed. I wanted to keep the ported housings i have because the fuel rails i have bolt right up. I was looking for posibly the short runner manifold, because it looks like it flows similar but it bolts on the tgvs.

Jason yes i would want to keep the cable throttle body, i have a ported one of those as well so i would need the adapter.

Does anyone know what year/models came with the short runner big plenum that fits the wrx tgvs?
Get rid of the tgv's the bracket Moore has makes it so you just bolt them on.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:06 AM   #1902
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New here and too the Subaru scene from Robinson township.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:05 AM   #1903
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Get rid of the tgv's the bracket Moore has makes it so you just bolt them on.
Yeah, I designed a throttle body adapter, throttle cable mount and injector adapter brackets for Ryan's car. I think we are going to market that as a kit if there is enough interest.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:36 PM   #1904
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my brother is selling some pro-drive rims if anyone is interested. same money on shipping if you're local

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OZ-Prodrive-...r#ht_500wt_950
I have yet to figure out why all prodrive wheels seem to be only 7"wide.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:38 PM   #1905
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I have yet to figure out why all prodrive wheels seem to be only 7"wide.
Yeah, I don't know either. If they were wider and cleared brembos I would have taken then off him.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:51 PM   #1906
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haha, prodrive makes plenty big wheels. i've regularly seen 18x10.5... just nothing even halfway decent in 5x100. i don't know much about the short runner manifold, came on some jdms and legacys. i just dont reallly care as tgvs arent' my favorite thing.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:24 PM   #1907
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I took it to mean the n/a big plenum long runner manifold. There is less failure points because the tgv housings and gaskets arent needed. I wanted to keep the ported housings i have because the fuel rails i have bolt right up. I was looking for posibly the short runner manifold, because it looks like it flows similar but it bolts on the tgvs.

Jason yes i would want to keep the cable throttle body, i have a ported one of those as well so i would need the adapter.

Does anyone know what year/models came with the short runner big plenum that fits the wrx tgvs?
If you're doing the 'full hog' NA 2.5i manifold because it has 'less failure points because the tgv housings and gaskets arent needed', you're entirely missing the point.

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145/1520...ml#post2815899
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:41 PM   #1908
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i was joking on that, and i think you meant this post :

http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145/1520...ml#post2815853

the one you linked was the one i linked you for the suspension. which, also, good****. for the record, shek and i were drinkin beers talking about exactly that oh, 3 years ago? we're just too poor/lazy to do it.

cause it is worth a lot. 10% was a way low guaranteed estimate. for Jay it was worth 30+whp on NA. taking him to 200+whp. stock RS manifold is about the same as stock wrx manifold.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:55 PM   #1909
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Anyone want to go in on a 5 gallon of extraS or will sell me a gallon?
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #1910
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Anyone want to go in on a 5 gallon of extraS or will sell me a gallon?
We carry it in quarts. How many do you need?
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:34 PM   #1911
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We carry it in quarts. How many do you need?
Just going on a limb here, but I think he's looking for 4 quarts...
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:54 PM   #1912
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New here and too the Subaru scene from Robinson township.
Whats up blue? Welome. There is a meet this wednesday around 6pm at robinson quaker steak and lube.





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If you're doing the 'full hog' NA 2.5i manifold because it has 'less failure points because the tgv housings and gaskets arent needed', you're entirely missing the point.
Shek i was replying to Bees question about what full hog meant. I have been debating on wether i wanted to use the big plenum manifold. Since i already have ported tgvs i thought it would be easier to use the short runner one. Jason mentioned the whole "less failure point" which i was just acknowledging.

My concern was my fuel rails wouldnt work but it seems that solution has been solved already. I always wanted to use the long runner manifold, but i didnt know the wrx style fuel rails would work. I ended up getting the long runner manifold so i will now have a set of ported/deleted housings if anyone is interested.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:57 PM   #1913
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Get rid of the tgv's the bracket Moore has makes it so you just bolt them on.
That ish aint free man! :smiley:
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:05 PM   #1914
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James, oh my bad, son. I haven't been reading every post in this thread.

Yeah, and the 2.5i manifold that 'Storm' is using in that thread is inspired by Carbotron. AFAIK, Jason was the first one to suggest it. Meant to post the link to that post by Storm. It's on the same page I linked, just further up.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:09 PM   #1915
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Guys i can submit my build progress so far if you're interested. I plan on posting when when its all done, instead of stringing it along. End of the year at the earliest.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:18 PM   #1916
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That ish aint free man! :smiley:
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Sell:

Your Intake Manifold: 150
Your TGV deletes: 150-200

0HP increase

Buy:

NA Long runner manifold: 190
Adapter plates and brackets: 100

Possible 10% increase

Looks like any way you look at it you are breaking even or on top.

most definitely on top in the power realm
Just something to think about.

And just remember you can always make more money tomorrow.
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:34 PM   #1917
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Sell:

Your Intake Manifold: 150
Your TGV deletes: 150-200
I got no problem with those economics but actually selling stuff nets the cash. So far all i got is alot of potential money. If anyone is looking for a wrx manifold, tgv deletes, and a brand new in box 12mm oil pump, let me know! I got that long runner on ebay, all i know is it better look like it does in the picture when i get it.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:34 AM   #1918
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yeah, seriously, parts stack up. i hate that. every once in a while i get vigilant and clear them out.

but really, the big hp guys should be running them, you are going to be able to run ~a half point leaner (on the wideband) overall with the same minimum leanness, and zero out those cyl to cyl compensations from the ecu. it means a quicker spoolup, better mpg, and more power.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:53 PM   #1919
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yeah, seriously, parts stack up. i hate that. every once in a while i get vigilant and clear them out.

but really, the big hp guys should be running them, you are going to be able to run ~a half point leaner (on the wideband) overall with the same minimum leanness, and zero out those cyl to cyl compensations from the ecu. it means a quicker spoolup, better mpg, and more power.
I noticed a lot cleaner acceleration when I drove Ryan's car with the 2.5i.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:09 PM   #1920
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Same here, planning on stopping by this Wed. at QSL in robinson. Will be my first time there.

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Old 06-04-2012, 02:42 PM   #1921
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I noticed a lot cleaner acceleration when I drove Ryan's car with the 2.5i.
That wasn't due to the manifold. Just proper drivability tuning off-boost.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:00 PM   #1922
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I have to give props to my local shop here in Latrobe- Randy Redinger and Sons.

They are honest, mod friendly, great labor rate for quality work and just good people. Randy was a service manager for New Team Kunkle Subaru in Delmont and was offered a regional promotion by SoA a couple years ago, but chose to open his own shop with his sons instead. Highly recommended if you're out this way, specialize in Subaru.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:53 PM   #1923
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Anyone have a flex uppipe for sale that fits 02-07? Think I have a crack in my header and will probably port a stock manifold to replace it. Need a compatible uppipe since my header has 3 bolt output.

Otherwise I can gut a stock one but prefer a larger diameter. Like your mom does.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:07 PM   #1924
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Anyone have a flex uppipe for sale that fits 02-07? Think I have a crack in my header and will probably port a stock manifold to replace it. Need a compatible uppipe since my header has 3 bolt output.

Otherwise I can gut a stock one but prefer a larger diameter. Like your mom does.
I think I have one. I'll bring it to the meet on Wednesday. You can decide then if you want it.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:03 PM   #1925
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I think I have one. I'll bring it to the meet on Wednesday. You can decide then if you want it.
Thanks, but I found my problem. Much simpler. Vacuum hose popped off intake manifold. Never saw that send my wideband to 19-20 AFR at idle before. Easy fix tho

I am eventually gonna take the header off tho. Was gonna wait for my next clutch since that stuff is sooooo much easier with the motor out.

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