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Old 06-30-2012, 07:06 PM   #2276
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For a whole house id look at 11 to 14 kw. Thats big for portable, around 100 bucks per kw. Would run the furnace etc. The transfer switch ads a few hundred to the price.

You can go old school and make a male to male extension cord for a smaller 6-7kw but it will only do one side of your panel unless you wire in a 220 socket. There are some pretty slick setups out now, you would have to know your approximate current load to calculate what size you need.

(Some good mom material there)
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:09 PM   #2277
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The northern tools catalog has some decent home size portable generators on up to industrial/commercial size to give you some ideas.

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Old 07-01-2012, 07:56 AM   #2278
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:42 AM   #2279
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I haven't been shooting for a year. I think my guns are getting rusty... Maybe I will get some time in the next few weeks to get out.... but that won't happen, need to get the car running first
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:01 AM   #2280
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:06 AM   #2281
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Although I would have to say this is the first time I've ever seen Tom put effort into making something LESS complicated.

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Old 07-01-2012, 09:23 AM   #2282
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He's not going to run E85 yet you keep telling us how ID1000s won't be enough for his power goals on E85.
Truth be told, I WILL eventually run E85 IF the car actually begins to work. E85 is not in my immediate future BUT I truly hope to start using it before the end of summer. The plan is to start it on 93oct, resolve whatever issues may be present, develop a good map for the car running on commodity 93oct fuel, finish my break-in period and validate that the car functions well as a system. Once "phase 1" has been accomplished I plan on moving to phase 2 which includes running E85. I dont intend to put the Hydra back into the car or run meth until at least next spring (if ever).

I know you have a lot more first hand experience at this BUT I do research things pretty thoroughly. While I can not cite empirical evidence, I can tell you that the following shops tell me that ID1000s will NOT support the motor/turbo combo in my car while running an acceptably safe base fuel pressure using 93oct street fuel:

Pure Tuning
Innovative Tuning
Cobb Tuning
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I also went so far as to call Injector Dynamics and ask them what they thought of the situation. They also feel that the ID1000s will be either to small or to close to call at high RPM/Boost on 93oct without running 75psi of base pressure. I feel that 75psi is just to much for both safety and longevity of the pumps.

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Old 07-01-2012, 11:22 AM   #2283
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For a whole house id look at 11 to 14 kw. Thats big for portable, around 100 bucks per kw. Would run the furnace etc. The transfer switch ads a few hundred to the price.

You can go old school and make a male to male extension cord for a smaller 6-7kw but it will only do one side of your panel unless you wire in a 220 socket. There are some pretty slick setups out now, you would have to know your approximate current load to calculate what size you need.

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Thanks for the info. I am hoping to get this and the wood burner sorted out by winter. Taking down a bigass tree next weekend so I will be off to a good start there.
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:38 PM   #2284
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Truth be told, I WILL eventually run E85 IF the car actually begins to work. E85 is not in my immediate future BUT I truly hope to start using it before the end of summer. The plan is to start it on 93oct, resolve whatever issues may be present, develop a good map for the car running on commodity 93oct fuel, finish my break-in period and validate that the car functions well as a system. Once "phase 1" has been accomplished I plan on moving to phase 2 which includes running E85. I dont intend to put the Hydra back into the car or run meth until at least next spring (if ever).

I know you have a lot more first hand experience at this BUT I do research things pretty thoroughly. While I can not cite empirical evidence, I can tell you that the following shops tell me that ID1000s will NOT support the motor/turbo combo in my car while running an acceptably safe base fuel pressure using 93oct street fuel:

Pure Tuning
Innovative Tuning
Cobb Tuning
Element Tuning

I also went so far as to call Injector Dynamics and ask them what they thought of the situation. They also feel that the ID1000s will be either to small or to close to call at high RPM/Boost on 93oct without running 75psi of base pressure. I feel that 75psi is just to much for both safety and longevity of the pumps.
You plan to eventually put the Hydra back in the car? WTF? Haven't you learned anything in the past few years of repeated automotive failure?

I don't think 65psi base fuel pressure is 'unsafe'. Find out what injectors Mross ran to get 400whp on pure 93octane. I think they were in the 800cc range at stock fuel pressure? With enough octane, he could've easily gone north of 450whp. And you could have even bigger injectors with another 20psi of fuel pressure. How much boost do you plan to run? 30psi at the most? 95psi of fuel pressure really isn't that much. Go look at your hose and see what it's rated for. Then keep in mind there is a lot of engineering factor of safety built in.

http://www.napabeltshose.com/images/...ning_Final.pdf
Looks like the basic MPI hose you can get at Napa is rated to 180psi. 95psi of fuel pressure at 30psi of boost really isn't unsafe.

Read your build thread. Looks like you are serious about wanting to run a Hydra again. And you really don't want to run ID1000s. Consider this my resignation from any involvement in your build. Sorry, but I don't want anymore headaches than I already have. I wish you the best of luck because I really want to see your car at a track someday.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:16 PM   #2285
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95psi of fuel pressure really isn't that much. Go look at your hose and see what it's rated for. Then keep in mind there is a lot of engineering factor of safety built in.
Its not about the hose, I am well aware of how much pressure it can hold (many hundreds of PSI). I am concerned about the two screw-on hose ends leaking. I am also concerned about the longevity of the fuel pumps at that pressure. Granted, its unlikely to ever be an issue but its concerning none the less.

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Read your build thread. Looks like you are serious about wanting to run a Hydra again.
We will see how well the AccessPort works with my setup. If its all good then maybe I will just stick with it. The only real reason I went to the Hydra was to run their meth setup because E85 wasn't an option at the time.

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Consider this my resignation from any involvement in your build.
Well, my loss I guess...
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:20 PM   #2286
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Its not about the hose, I am well aware of how much pressure it can hold (many hundreds of PSI). I am concerned about the two screw-on hose ends leaking. I am also concerned about the longevity of the fuel pumps at that pressure. Granted, its unlikely to ever be an issue but its concerning none the less.

We will see how well the AccessPort works with my setup. If its all good then maybe I will just stick with it. The only real reason I went to the Hydra was to run their meth setup because E85 wasn't an option at the time.

Well, my loss I guess...
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:22 PM   #2287
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Selling my LGT if anyone knows someone who is looking.

05 LGT, 5EAT, 85k

Idles a bit low, I believe vacuum leak to be the cause. Need to sell fast.

PM me for questions

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Old 07-02-2012, 12:28 AM   #2288
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Selling my LGT if anyone knows someone who is looking.

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Old 07-02-2012, 09:35 AM   #2289
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Oh snap, NASIOC's shutting down at 10AM EST. Get yer flames in now before it's too late!
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:19 PM   #2290
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Selling my LGT if anyone knows someone who is looking.

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Idles a bit low, I believe vacuum leak to be the cause. Need to sell fast.

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A vacuum leak should make it idle high...
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:30 PM   #2291
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A vacuum leak should make it idle high...
Or just crappy. Oscillating and whatnot. It will eventually through a CEL.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #2292
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Thanks and thanks....of course any help from local guru types is always welcome.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:33 PM   #2293
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Tom, I highly recommend you let Kieth of Pure Tuning tune your car via OS or AP. Never met the guy but I really like his approach and it is very different (and correct) from 90% of the people that 'tune'.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:52 PM   #2294
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Tom, I highly recommend you let Kieth of Pure Tuning tune your car via OS or AP. Never met the guy but I really like his approach and it is very different (and correct) from 90% of the people that 'tune'.
I would have to agree. He did a great job for me. I don't know if he does OS though. I had to buy an AP for my tune.
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:06 PM   #2295
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Oh yeah, he probably cheats and uses the Live Tuning option to tune each load cell on the dyno. Bastard. I have to rely on the Excel code I wrote to do the same thing on the road.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:51 AM   #2296
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Tom the guys are Pure are very professional, they take a lot of time during their tune and the peak power, low end torque production and driveability of the cars that we've taken there are fantastic. They also own Subaru's and they do A LOT of back to back parts testing on their cars from turbos, headers, intake manifolds, etc. Their name is also worn on many national level (winning) SCCA solo and SCCA/NASA road race cars. They have serious track experience and can tune all types from serious street cars to drag setups and they tune COBB AP, Haltec, AEM, etc. Just a bit of info, but wherever you decide to take your car, Pure or Innovative, I'm sure you will get a fantastic tune!
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:52 AM   #2297
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Here one turbo test they did comparing a PTE 6262 and a BW s256. Good read.



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Old 07-03-2012, 05:22 PM   #2298
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Here one turbo test they did comparing a PTE 6262 and a BW s256. Good read.



http://pure-tuning.com/blog/?p=157
Ryan, it looks like they just picked a smaller turbo...

Definitely better suited for the application, but any joe schmo could've come to that conclusion.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:43 PM   #2299
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Been awhile since I posted in this thread. But I got pulled over tonite for an expired inspection that I have been neglecting because no cat in my exhaust and my normal inspection guy no longer can help me out(I live in south butler county so only need a visual pass). I was wondering if any one here has some one that can help me out? Or has a 2.5 in midpipe with cat that I could use temporarily this weekend?

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Been awhile since I posted in this thread. But I got pulled over tonite for an expired inspection that I have been neglecting because no cat in my exhaust and my normal inspection guy no longer can help me out(I live in south butler county so only need a visual pass). I was wondering if any one here has some one that can help me out? Or has a 2.5 in midpipe with cat that I could use temporarily this weekend?

Thanks
are you looking for the stock piece because i have it all if you want to borrow it this weekend i live just a couple min north of butler but i know a guy that does inspections in sarver that doesnt care because he owns a catless legacy turbo that he inspected himself

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