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Old 02-28-2012, 09:05 AM   #1
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I am looking for a good towel to dry off my black car. For now I have been using forced air but parts of the car dry before I get to it leaving small water spots.

I did a search and a thread came up from 2008-2009. Suggested things like shamwow and the absorber. Seems pretty outdated. I am seeing waffle weave and microfiber drying towels for all around the same price on autogeek.Whats working good these days?
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:32 AM   #2
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i use a $10 waffle weave mirofiber towel from autozone. actually i use two. i wash them after i use them to prevent dirt from accumilating. I replace them every 2-3 months too.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:11 AM   #3
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i have java black pearl and think the absorber at walmart does a pretty good job. you might have to ring it out a couple times mid dry.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:21 AM   #4
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sounds like alot of people like swirl marks.
good towels for drying would be
http://www.pakshak.com/ultra-soft-wa...l-25x36-1.html
http://www.autogeek.net/cobra-deluxe-ultra-towel.html
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:48 AM   #5
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sounds like alot of people like swirl marks.
good towels for drying would be
http://www.pakshak.com/ultra-soft-wa...l-25x36-1.html
http://www.autogeek.net/cobra-deluxe-ultra-towel.html
I have used, and love both of these. For those of you with black cars I would tend to lean towards the cobra deluxe. Black shows minor marring so much faster than most other colors and the cobra deluxe is much softer than the Micro-pak waffle weave.

Also Cobra micro fiber towels have a tag that is just stuck on with light adhesive. The Micro-pak have a label stitched in. I far prefer to be able to peel off the label.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:50 AM   #6
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I saw a Harley dealer use a industrial central vac set to blow to dry bikes. I tried a leaf blower and it seemed to work well. Water spots are a common issue here so this seemed like a reasonable no touch drying method.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:57 PM   #7
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A good quick detailer will take alot of the water spots out if they had a chance to dry before you could get to them
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:56 AM   #8
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I am looking for a good towel to dry off my black car. For now I have been using forced air but parts of the car dry before I get to it leaving small water spots.

I did a search and a thread came up from 2008-2009. Suggested things like shamwow and the absorber. Seems pretty outdated. I am seeing waffle weave and microfiber drying towels for all around the same price on autogeek.Whats working good these days?
The towels Doobis recommended work well.

Another thing I would suggest to limit the amount of surface water. Is to remove the nozzle from your hose and rinse the surface of your car again. This flooding of the surface will promote "sheeting" and will leave only small amounts of water behind. This for one, makes drying a hell of alot easier and instead of wiping you can "blot" the surface dry reducing marring drastically. Also, due to the limited amount of water on the surface, spotting is eliminated (unless your really slow).
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:20 PM   #9
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The absorber works well once its broken in. Other than that use a regular chamois. If you do use anything like a towel you risk scratching the delicate black paint and if ou wash it the detergent is still embeded in the towel so when you dry the car next time it will streak like hell.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:17 PM   #10
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On the contrary, a good quality waffle weave will not mar the paint if used properly. I would advise against using powder detergent on any of your microfiber drying towels. Or any of your microfibers for that matter.

Absorbers and other chamois are great for absorbing water. However, chamois's offer no place for dirt or other solid particles to go and the chamois simply drags these particles around on the paints surface.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:42 PM   #11
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The absorber works well once its broken in. Other than that use a regular chamois. If you do use anything like a towel you risk scratching the delicate black paint and if ou wash it the detergent is still embeded in the towel so when you dry the car next time it will streak like hell.
....any tools/media contacting your paint can scratch given the right circumstances. Some have more potential than others. Personally, I agree with Aspen and its the reason why I use good quality WW MF's to dry when I do dry my vehicles traditionally. I also like to use a product like Duragloss Aquawax (which helps add lubricity) to further help mitigate the risk of marring while drying with a WW.
Technique is also important as is the quality of the tools/products you use.

As far as WW's and "embedded detergents", I will ask you this..... How do you wash your other towels you use to remove products from your finish (ie polishes, waxes, QD's, etc)? Using this logic those too would scratch so no towel is safe.

This is why it is important to use free rinsing detergents and to segregate your towels when you clean them. They even make task-specific detergents for this purpose. Its also important to avoid bleach, softeners, etc.
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Old 02-29-2012, 06:29 PM   #12
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check out zaino bros. They recommend 100% white cotton lint free towels
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:16 PM   #13
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:01 PM   #14
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check out zaino bros. They recommend 100% white cotton lint free towels
....I never have agreed or understood Sal's bias toward MF towels through the years just because he never used one that apparently satisfied him. Personally, while I like some his products, I think he's behind the times in some aspects. Quality is a factor with any type of towel whether it be MF or cotton. Nothing wrong with either if they're good.
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:02 PM   #15
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I use Cobra Waffle weave guzzlers, great towels
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:43 AM   #16
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....I never have agreed or understood Sal's bias toward MF towels through the years just because he never used one that apparently satisfied him. Personally, while I like some his products, I think he's behind the times in some aspects. Quality is a factor with any type of towel whether it be MF or cotton. Nothing wrong with either if they're good.
The impression I got from him was, he didn't like microfiber because it holds on to dirt much better. So you end up potentially getting micro-scratches if. Kinda like if you drop your clay bar and try to use it again.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:23 AM   #17
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The impression I got from him was, he didn't like microfiber because it holds on to dirt much better. So you end up potentially getting micro-scratches if. Kinda like if you drop your clay bar and try to use it again.
the whole point of MF is to pull dirt in and away from the paint. Sure junky MF towels make the good ones look bad. So if he says that then a cotton towel will cause the same issue as most of the time have a shorter nap and dirt can stay closer to the surface and cause more marring. personally I will never use a cotton towel on my paint..only quality MF towels and I have a bin dedicated for towels that ONLY touch my paint and are never washed with my misc detail towels to contaminate.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:34 AM   #18
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....any tools/media contacting your paint can scratch given the right circumstances. Some have more potential than others. Personally, I agree with Aspen and its the reason why I use good quality WW MF's to dry when I do dry my vehicles traditionally. I also like to use a product like Duragloss Aquawax (which helps add lubricity) to further help mitigate the risk of marring while drying with a WW.
Technique is also important as is the quality of the tools/products you use.

As far as WW's and "embedded detergents", I will ask you this..... How do you wash your other towels you use to remove products from your finish (ie polishes, waxes, QD's, etc)? Using this logic those too would scratch so no towel is safe.

This is why it is important to use free rinsing detergents and to segregate your towels when you clean them. They even make task-specific detergents for this purpose. Its also important to avoid bleach, softeners, etc.

Well one if you just washed the car you shouldnt have dirt on the car anymore so chamois should be fine.....second I just throw my microfibers away once they get to much wax dust on them or just use them for wheels rags.....they aren't made to last forever
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:55 AM   #19
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The impression I got from him was, he didn't like microfiber because it holds on to dirt much better. So you end up potentially getting micro-scratches if. Kinda like if you drop your clay bar and try to use it again.
His reasons in conversations have always been about the inconsistency in quality of MF towels he has tried. Personally, I feel that can be the same with any type of towel which is why it is important to find a good source. If he was totally against MF's he wouldn't have started offering them himself. .....but here is his reasoning straight from the horses mouth:


" Zaino has been testing various Micro-Fiber products. Unfortunately, the jury is still out on them. Some of them are excellent and do not scratch. Others are terrible and definitely scratch. The quality control of these products from overseas, especially Korea, is not consistent, so you never know if they will be the same scratch-free quality. Even when using the same brand, we found the quality to be inconsistent. For now, we do not recommend using them. However, lab testing is ongoing, and we will post an update when we have more conclusive results.

NOTE: If you are already using microfiber towels, look carefully at your paint finish under flourescent light when you are using your towels. If you are not getting any swirls or fine scratches from the microfiber towels, then you are okay and can continue to use them. Remember it's better to be safe than swirly."
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #20
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I use the Dehydrator v1 which is a waffle weave towel. Use the large one at home and some smaller ones when I'm not.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:34 AM   #21
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Well one if you just washed the car you shouldnt have dirt on the car anymore so chamois should be fine.....second I just throw my microfibers away once they get to much wax dust on them or just use them for wheels rags.....they aren't made to last forever
Media like natural chamois, the Absorber and tools like the California Water Blade, etc. all meant to be dragged across the surface of the paint (on larger panels) creating a squeegee-like action with full contact against the paint during the engine sweeping motion.

The fact is that there is always the possibility dirt and/or contaminants you could miss or that could land on the car as it is being dried. ....that could then be dragged across your paint. There is also the potential for contamination of your media which in the case of a chamois, could be embedded in the hide and not easily rinsed away (as it could more likely be in a fabric).

I used to use expensive natural chamois' years ago (more for blotting). As MF towels began to find there way on the market I soon switched over to them as a drying tool. I found them much more efficient and effective for what I needed. I also found them softer/gentler as well as safer since the nap of the material provides an area for stray dirt/contamination to possibly move into.

When I use an MF for drying, I try to use short, interupted strokes and a blotting action as I dry each panel. I also like to use a QD or QW which helps further mitigate the risk of marring as I dry.

As far as longevity, I have some towels that are years old and still in great condition. When removing waxes and other products, I will use several towels in the process which get tossed in specific bins I keep for soiled MF's. The key is to keep towels segregated by task and to wash as I outlined earlier. I never use my good towels to the point where they are laden with product (like wax) so they are rarely hard to clean. .....and yes, MF towels are meant to be washed and can last for many uses if cared for properly. They are used extensively in various industry including professional detailing.

I have to ask you though, don't you wash your MF towels prior to use? If not, I would strongly suggest you do. I would aslo recommend you consider washing your used ones to get more life out of them. ....even when you demote them to other tasks.

Btw, Im not against folks using chamois' or other methods of drying. The important thing is that individuals are happy with the results they achieve with what they are using. ....nothing wrong with that. Im just trying to clear up what I think were some misconceptions.
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