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Old 06-21-2012, 06:33 AM   #151
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Donzo, did you get anywhere with the bachelor party?

I was thinking maybe running the idea past Anthony at GFH (google). Maybe he has heard of it being done before and can give you advise. Of course it's counter-intuitive to the generic bachelor party "theme" of being irresponsible, unsafe and staying sober but it would be cool to spend the day shooting an obstacle course and then moving onto the other stuff at night
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:39 AM   #152
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That was my intention but when it came down to it, I couldn't find anything in time. We ended up going down to L.I. and spent the day on a fishing boat. It was fun.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:58 AM   #153
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He's married now, he isn't allowed to look at naked girls anymore.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:36 AM   #154
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I believe brick Armory is open till 10 pm..mot sure they have a website
Brick closes at 9pm on weekdays now, they just weren't getting people in after 9pm and decided it wasn't worth staying open that late. I don't think they've updated their website yet.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:02 PM   #155
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Just be careful when crossing state lines with a pistol. If you don't have a permit for the state you're traveling to/through, you're committing a felony.

Another member here is an NRA instructor and is going to give the pistol class for Utah and CT to a bunch of us if any of you are interested. Having a license for Utah allows you to carry in a ton of other states.
Im in the process of getting my firearms id for NJ and i tend to go shooting with my cousin in WV. I called Maryland State Police and West Virginia State police and both told me the same thing for transporting a pistol. You dont need any permits. Just make sure the gun is locked up separate from the ammo (which is also locked up) and stored in your trunk (or other compartment not reachable b the driver). Its a federal law and accepted for most states.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:09 PM   #156
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Yep, you're right. I was given false info at the time.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:28 PM   #157
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is it right to assume you can bring a gun pretty much anywhere as long as you have proof of legally being able to own one and the state in which you take it deems that gun also legal?
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:01 PM   #158
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is it right to assume you can bring a gun pretty much anywhere as long as you have proof of legally being able to own one and the state in which you take it deems that gun also legal?
Check out the Safe Passage provision of the federal Firearms Owners Protection Act

Short answer, sort of. If you can possess and carry the firearm at both your departure state and your destination then you are supposed to be legally protected. The firearm should be inaccessible, unloaded and if the vehicle does not have a separate compartment from the driver the firearm must be in a locked container.

You must be engaged in interstate travel, stopping only for gas, food, lodging, etc.

The legal protection does not prevent you from being arrested, incarcerated, etc. It only gives you an affirmative defense.

Some states, cities or agencies do not respect FOPA and they will **** you. E.g., NYC doesn't give a **** about the federal law. Also be careful when under the jurisdiction of Port Authority, i.e. EWR. Search the internet for examples of non-compliance in many states.

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Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision hereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
P.S. I recommend you get a non-resident carry permit in any states which you frequently visit. Much more protection from local cops who may be ignorant on the intricate gun laws of their own state.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:09 PM   #159
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Im in the process of getting my firearms id for NJ and i tend to go shooting with my cousin in WV. I called Maryland State Police and West Virginia State police and both told me the same thing for transporting a pistol. You dont need any permits. Just make sure the gun is locked up separate from the ammo (which is also locked up) and stored in your trunk (or other compartment not reachable b the driver). Its a federal law and accepted for most states.
Sounds good. To expand on what I said above, I recommend you spend a hundred or two bucks on a Utah or Florida CCW permit which last 5 and 7 years, respectively. It's nice to carry concealed (once you're trained on usage and retention) and it also gives LEO another reason to believe your story if stopped during interstate transport.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:34 PM   #160
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Sounds good. To expand on what I said above, I recommend you spend a hundred or two bucks on a Utah or Florida CCW permit which last 5 and 7 years, respectively. It's nice to carry concealed (once you're trained on usage and retention) and it also gives LEO another reason to believe your story if stopped during interstate transport.
dont you need to be a resident of the states in order to carry?

ps. what LEO?
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:14 PM   #161
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dont you need to be a resident of the states in order to carry?

ps. what LEO?
No.

Law Enforcement Officer.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:00 PM   #162
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This is the same deal my friends and I took advantage of...

http://www.slickguns.com/product/smi...6-10rnds-59799
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:13 PM   #163
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^^ Nice
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:10 PM   #164
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Edited.

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Old 06-22-2012, 08:40 PM   #165
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I have a similar Kershaw, except mine says "Snap On" on it. :/
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:58 PM   #166
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Yup, there are many different varieties and models.
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:20 PM   #167
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Nice spikes. I settled on an m&p15 sport myself because I didn't want to wait. Oh and preban mags are a must.
I'm still trying to decide on either a red dot or a scope.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:22 PM   #168
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:36 PM   #169
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Hell yeah man! Going upstate for some shooting at the weekend house later today. Will post pics. I LOVE that mag well grip. How does it feel?
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:49 PM   #170
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I LOVE that mag well grip. How does it feel?
The grip is good. The only issue is that its not a perfect fit. I had to do some shaving to get it to fit but its still not 100% even so I might ditch it. But it does make for a stable platform is you get tired of the front grip.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:12 PM   #171
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How long did it take any of you NJ guys to get your FID Card?
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:37 PM   #172
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I got mine in 04, it took about 3 months. About as long as it takes to get a handgun permit now.
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Old 06-24-2012, 02:55 PM   #173
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Can u purchase a handgun out of state with having to get a nj purchase permit first?
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:56 PM   #174
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No. Jersey is strict, and FFL's won't risk their licenses to sell to NJ residents.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:11 AM   #175
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Under federal law if the identification you present for a handgun purchase is issued from state different from the state the store is in, the handgun must be shipped to a FFL in your own state before you can take delivery (once you pass NICS and pay for it).

In NJ most FFLs will not log in an incoming handgun for you if they have reason to believe you do not already have a permit to purchase. I believe this is more state police guidelines than actual law so if you are friendly with your shop you may have more freedom. They are more likely to log in the handgun if you have a permit to purchase but are stuck in the 30 day wait which can happen quite often if you collect.
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