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Old 01-29-2013, 03:58 PM   #351
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I'm looking to dump my OG green for a td06 sl2 20g.

Hoping for 20# in the range of 3500-3700, 320whp on 93 on an aging 120k mileage shortblock. Sound reasonable?
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:39 PM   #352
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Hey guys, found out my vf48 on my 08 sti is on its way out and have decided on purchasing the Td06sl2 20g with the 8cm hotside. Question is will I need to upgrade my coolant line and oil feed line to the turbo or will it mate up, or does kinagawa supply new lines?

Want to get everything before the purchase of the turbo so I won't have any downtime.

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:20 AM   #353
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Kinugawa turbos include all lines and necessary hardware for installation (even the gaskets). They also come with a SS oil feed line with the correct restrictor size for the Kamak CHRA.

The WHP numbers posted above are very conservative. A TD05SH-16G can make 350 AWP on 93 octane with a catless turboback.

I would think it would be very easy to crack into the 400 AWHP range with a TD06SL2-20G on 93 octane. It is very similar to the older FP Green.

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:01 AM   #354
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Kinugawa turbos include all lines and necessary hardware for installation (even the gaskets). They also come with a SS oil feed line with the correct restrictor size for the Kamak CHRA.

The WHP numbers posted above are very conservative. A TD05SH-16G can make 350 AWP on 93 octane with a catless turboback.

I would think it would be very easy to crack into the 400 AWHP range with a TD06SL2-20G on 93 octane. It is very similar to the older FP Green.
Take a look at my math and tell me where I can improve the formula so I can go through it and correct the WHP numbers.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:21 AM   #355
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I was just looking at the hardware yesterday and the vacuum lines and fittings look better than OEM, the lines have a dual coating to resist oil and seem to be made of silicon, the hose compression fittings are the same as OEM, attention to detail on this turbos is just ridiculous, pisses me off how ignorant people are calling these turbos EBay just because they are $500+ less than a Blouch.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:42 AM   #356
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Kinugawa turbos include all lines and necessary hardware for installation (even the gaskets). They also come with a SS oil feed line with the correct restrictor size for the Kamak CHRA.

The WHP numbers posted above are very conservative. A TD05SH-16G can make 350 AWP on 93 octane with a catless turboback.

I would think it would be very easy to crack into the 400 AWHP range with a TD06SL2-20G on 93 octane. It is very similar to the older FP Green.
Thanks gabe! Yeah I'm looking at 400, I'm sure ill be able to push more but ATM on the stock tmic. Did all the other supporting mods plus built bottom end.

It's good to know that the parts kinagawa supplied with there turbo look to be better then oem.

Excited to see what the car will do with E85. Certainly made the vf48 come to life.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:06 PM   #357
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I was just looking at the hardware yesterday and the vacuum lines and fittings look better than OEM, the lines have a dual coating to resist oil and seem to be made of silicon, the hose compression fittings are the same as OEM, attention to detail on this turbos is just ridiculous, pisses me off how ignorant people are calling these turbos EBay just because they are $500+ less than a Blouch.
Right on. They are also sold here. So what the owner lists items on ebay as well.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:14 PM   #358
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I was just looking at the hardware yesterday and the vacuum lines and fittings look better than OEM, the lines have a dual coating to resist oil and seem to be made of silicon, the hose compression fittings are the same as OEM, attention to detail on this turbos is just ridiculous, pisses me off how ignorant people are calling these turbos EBay just because they are $500+ less than a Blouch.
Yup, Kinugawa makes a very nice install kit. They do not bother grinding off part numbers or painting the turbo, etc. They just stamp the turbo with the correct plate (some are ghost painted Kinugawa on the compressor housing. Sorry, did you want a crinkle red with that? Go to Home Depot and buy some high temp texture paint for $10.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:00 PM   #359
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Just ordered the SL2 20 G for my 08 WRX. Looks like everything will line up. I will be sure to post my dyno results on here..... I'm like a kid on christmas eve.... Cant wait for this thing to get here. I'm gona schedule my tune tomorrow!
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:06 PM   #360
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Ok after reading and reading and searching this post im gonna pull the trigger and buy Kinugawa probaly just an 18G and get a STi TMIC. I have a 2007 WRX running AP stage 2 with Perrin Tune. Im in GA sand getting to a reasonable tuner is like pulling teeth so i may go with an E-TUNE. Till i can get time of from the army to get a protune. I think also i will purchase a 3port EBCS but of course will not install till tune time. Im figuring i cant just run a a COBB 18G MAP. So can someone point me in a direction maybe a link.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:40 PM   #361
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:57 PM   #362
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Just get a Phaton etune, that's what I am doing when I finish the install on the 07 FXT, tired of the Stage 2 Cobb OTS Map (4 years now).

Here is my Kinugawa journal (link)
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:32 AM   #363
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I was just looking at the hardware yesterday and the vacuum lines and fittings look better than OEM, the lines have a dual coating to resist oil and seem to be made of silicon, the hose compression fittings are the same as OEM, attention to detail on this turbos is just ridiculous, pisses me off how ignorant people are calling these turbos EBay just because they are $500+ less than a Blouch.
+1

I like the quality of them, and they make good power too.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:35 AM   #364
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+1

I like the quality of them, and they make good power too.
People still underestimate these turbos, even mods on this very site.

I think Kinugawa and kamak sales are going to explode in the next few years.

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Old 02-13-2013, 01:54 PM   #365
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sorry for the poor photo quality. I'm certainly happy with the 349HP/349Trq figures, I do wish that it would have spooled a bit faster. Hill at Agile mentioned that I'm currently limited by my stock IC and exhaust.

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What are your IDCs? I have 750cc and suspect will not be sufficient.
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sorry for the poor photo quality. I'm certainly happy with the 349HP/349Trq figures, I do wish that it would have spooled a bit faster. Hill at Agile mentioned that I'm currently limited by my stock IC and exhaust.

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Good looking dyno plot very smooth bet she pulls hard!

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:37 PM   #368
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sorry for the poor photo quality. I'm certainly happy with the 349HP/349Trq figures, I do wish that it would have spooled a bit faster. Hill at Agile mentioned that I'm currently limited by my stock IC and exhaust.

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Is that spool up the same on the street? What gear on that pull? Pump gas? Maybe he should play with AVCS some.... And you should get a better flowing catback
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What are your IDCs? I have 750cc and suspect will not be sufficient.
I'm not exactly sure what my IDCs are at, but I wouldn't use anything less than 850cc for 20G's. I'm sure other people may disagree, but since I had to buy new injectors anyway, I figure go big or go home (within reason mind you )

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Good looking dyno plot very smooth bet she pulls hard!
power is great! top end power is scary, still I wish the spool was a bit better

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Is that spool up the same on the street? What gear on that pull? Pump gas? Maybe he should play with AVCS some.... And you should get a better flowing catback
spool is more or less the same, maybe a 200 rpm difference. 4th gear pull on 93oct. I was really trying to not get a 3in catback, since the cops are looking to pull me over already, but sadly I think I will have to make the jump.

Like I said, overall, very happy with the car. I still wonder if I should have gone with an 18G variant vs. a 20G variant. I really miss the peppiness of the VF39, but the top end power is awesome on my SL2-20G
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^^^^
What boost controller?
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What boost controller?
Just an AP tune
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Just an AP tune
So my guess is you're on the stock boost controller.....
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you are correct. sort of a build on a budget and I didn't really see the need for an aftermarket BCS
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:07 AM   #374
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A 3 port will get you better spool and better control for around $100 but you would have to retune for it again. I maxed out my id1000 and 300lph pump on the same turbo on e85 around 23psi so i would think 750cc would be cutting it close on pump gas. I will be hardwiring the pump to lower them a bit with the dw hard wire kit which is something you could do to stretch out the 7500cc a bit.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:26 AM   #375
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Yeah sounds like you're missing a couple parts that would really make a significant difference. Grab an EBCS and 3" catback, you should see a good bit of pickup on spool/boost control up top. I really want to know what this turbo does as I'm strongly considering picking one up to replace my og fp green.
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