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Old 11-12-2012, 05:29 PM   #176
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Yup mine was packaged just as well and they are great to deal with, my new compressor housing is getting a red powder coating from GSP in NJ. Ill post pics.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:57 PM   #177
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Just purchased the td06sl2-20g-8cm legacy fitment last night and should have it here with in a week i will post results after the swap im pretty excited.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #178
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Mods can you please move this thread to Factory 2.5L Turbo Powertrain?

Made a bracket to get rid of the IWG..going EWG 38mm, considering Tigwerks to modify the uppipe that came with the Kinugawa ELH.


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Old 11-13-2012, 05:17 PM   #179
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I dont understand why you guys are saying the 8cm td06h/60-1 doesn't perform. My car has a catless 3" turbo back exhaust and this thing moves. Anybody who rides in my car asks is 15 pounds all i run. It ran 20psi for about a week and i ended up reversed in traffic because my tires are new but cant provide enough grip. Now its back to 15psi. Price wise i think its the best of the medium sized turbos for the ej25 because of the top end.

It would be hard for someone to try and sell me a gt3076 because you would really have to convince me that it is worth double what i paid for this turbo. My turbo is rebuildable and can be reconfigured for pretty cheap. If i wasnt a student i would have the gtx3076 but the cost of fixing them is what keeps me away from them.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:15 PM   #180
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I wasn't saying it didn't perform, I bet it performs great up high. I went with a td06sl2 60-1 for faster spool. I like that it hits 18 psi at 3750 and makes around 350hp on a super safe tune.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:22 PM   #181
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I wasn't saying it didn't perform, I bet it performs great up high. I went with a td06sl2 60-1 for faster spool. I like that it hits 18 psi at 3750 and makes around 350hp on a super safe tune.
My car hits earlier than that but its probably because i dont have any cats. Cant really tell what its doing in first, second is around 3400-3700 depending on how hot the headers are, and third is 3600 or sooner. It may change up once i fix the wgdc maps because it will overboost in fourth/fifth if its too low in revs (<2800) and i gun it. I need to make a video.lol

I may reconsider this wheel after looking at your graph. It doesnt seem as though your boost is falling off up top and you get better spool. This car still has a tmic like yours and i'm curious to see how bad the lag will increase when you swap to an fmic. I'm looking to stay in the 400hp range and increase response without breaking my bank account.

(OT) I also am planning on taking your advice you gave to me in another thread about the rods. Really i thought about it and i have a spare engine just in case they fail me
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #182
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^^^^
Set your WGDC using 4th pulls so it won't over boost like that.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:29 PM   #183
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Love the 60-1. Needs 10cm IMO

Doing very well in my car
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:37 PM   #184
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Yeah, trying to find on of these in a 10cm...



To run with these obx pipes...



The 8cm is a .57 ar and the 12 cm is a .89 ar...
a 10 cm would be perfect.
Makes a nice low budget rotated set up with a 60-1 or any other td06sl2 or td06 turbo...
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:17 AM   #185
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Love the 60-1. Needs 10cm IMO

Doing very well in my car
do you have a graph of your car or where it hits 20#?
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:14 PM   #186
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do you have a graph of your car or where it hits 20#?
I'll get one soon. 20psi in 4th is around 4200 with my setup. 04 sti 6 speed and non avcs ej257. Falls right in line with most reds that are out there.

This is using the td06 11 blade 60-1 8cm with 3in anti surge housing. Really wasn't going for fast spool but its doing well for a 61~ lb min turbo
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:28 PM   #187
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I'll get one soon. 20psi in 4th is around 4200 with my setup. 04 sti 6 speed and non avcs ej257. Falls right in line with most reds that are out there.

This is using the td06 11 blade 60-1 8cm with 3in anti surge housing. Really wasn't going for fast spool but its doing well for a 61~ lb min turbo
Think the SL2/60-1 is a decent match or would it be too small?
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:03 PM   #188
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I belive the AMR T60R is a 60-1 sl2 turbo. quicker spool but the hotside made it choke. needs 10cm lol. really depends on setup and boost levels. Im not a fan of it, but it works for those who worry more about lag and not so much power potential. Dont get me wrong, it will do fine but your leaving a lot on the table. I would match that turbine for a 2.2 or even a 2.0. for the 2.5 it would need a 10cm or TD06
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:36 PM   #189
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I belive the AMR T60R is a 60-1 sl2 turbo. quicker spool but the hotside made it choke. needs 10cm lol. really depends on setup and boost levels. Im not a fan of it, but it works for those who worry more about lag and not so much power potential. Dont get me wrong, it will do fine but your leaving a lot on the table. I would match that turbine for a 2.2 or even a 2.0. for the 2.5 it would need a 10cm or TD06
60-1, sl2, 10 cm?

You literally addressed on this page; sorry to beat a dead horse.

20g, sl2, and 8cm sounds about right, hoping to find a 10cm and stay IWG though!

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Old 11-24-2012, 01:26 PM   #190
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60-1, sl2, 10 cm?

You literally addressed on this page; sorry to beat a dead horse.

20g, sl2, and 8cm sounds about right, hoping to find a 10cm and stay IWG though!
Bumping this thread because this thread is usefull, sent a couple pms for further insight into my perticular set.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:26 PM   #191
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Thought I'd chime in here since my Kinugawa charger arrived yesterday.

TD06SL2 Billet 18G with upgraded wga and requested 0.8BAR spring.



















So far, I'm mighty impressed by the overall fit and finish. The reinforced silicone wg diaphragm is a nice touch and the machine work on the compressor wheel is on par with the other wheels I've seen from competing manufacturers.

I've installed 2 Tomei turbos this year, one M7960 on an S14 and another M7960 on a Bugeye WRX. Minus the print on the box and the special "Tomei" stamping on the compressor cover these turbos are damn near identical. The packaging, the included parts, the gaskets, everything.....is what you'd find in a $1400 Tomei box. Well, except for the cool ass stickers.

I put around 20k miles per year on my car, I expect it won't be long before I'm able to comment on long term durability.

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Old 11-27-2012, 01:33 PM   #192
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you should also opted for the STS 9-blade turbine wheel, or not an option? How much extra was the billet compressor vs regular wheel?
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:38 PM   #193
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you should also opted for the STS 9-blade turbine wheel, or not an option? How much extra was the billet compressor vs regular wheel?
I tried to get the STS wheel, trust me -_-. It's only available on full Kamak branded turbos and it's very expensive.

I'm not sure of the actual cost of the upgraded comp wheel. I asked for specific upgrades and a total shipped price. I did not get an itemized invoice. Lets just say it was reasonable.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:23 PM   #194
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do you mind posting the price?
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^+1...

@ericz, did you deal with Bruce @Kinugawa, great guy, wish I could say the same thing of sales people at Blouch. I did not go with Kinugawa just for pricing, I was tired of having to beg for info with Blouch, I can't stand their attitude, secretive tactics, confusing/missing/contradictory info on website, poor packaging, my old school 18G had shaft play brand new, rough comp casting, crappy actuator, etc.

I love this turbo in all aspects. Craps me up with people call Kinugawa an Ebay turbo, ****ing ignorance.

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Old 11-27-2012, 03:50 PM   #196
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There is a lot to be said about products sold on eBay.

There are a lot of pieces of crap floating around on eBay, but with the right research you will find that there are a lot of quality products being offered.

I'm sitting here comparing my TXS Dp to the M2 performance Dp from their turbo back ( Http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...d=360519266877 )

The welds on the M2 are beautiful, whoever did the welds on the txs needed more practice.

I'm running a CX racing radiator (eBay) CX racing tmic (eBay) and some random eBay strut bar set.

All of which both look and perform amazingly well for the price.

As far as Kinugawa goes, I see their turbos to be on the same level with Blouch, or Garrett, save for the BB technology.

They just decided to offer their turbos in a different, less conventional way, and seem to be doing an awesome job of it.

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I tried to get the STS wheel, trust me -_-. It's only available on full Kamak branded turbos and it's very expensive.

I'm not sure of the actual cost of the upgraded comp wheel. I asked for specific upgrades and a total shipped price. I did not get an itemized invoice. Lets just say it was reasonable.

So how expensive is this STS wheel you speak of?

I'm in the midst of making a franken 20G, and I'm looking for the best flowing most up to date technology to stuff into this thing before I put it back together.

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^+1...

@ericz, did you deal with Bruce @Kinugawa, great guy, wish I could say the same thing of sales people at Blouch. I did not go with Kinugawa just for pricing, I was tired of having to beg for info with Blouch, I can't stand their attitude, secretive tactics, confusing/missing/contradictory info on website, poor packaging, my old school 18G had shaft play brand new, rough comp casting, crappy actuator, etc.

I love this turbo in all aspects. Craps me up with people call Kinugawa an Ebay turbo, ****ing ignorance.
Price on the billet compressor upgrade is $200.
Upgraded actuator was about $90.
These are the prices I can gather from deconstructing my invoice however contact with Bruce will be your most accurate method of pricing these upgrades.

Personally, I did not deal with Bruce, my tuner handled all of the dealings with arranging the deal and acquiring the upgrade parts. I know my tuner was impressed with Bruce's timeliness and eagerness to work with us on specific requests. Overall I'm very happy with the experience and the part. I've posted on my local boards about this turbo and would not be surprised if a few more pop up in my area.
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Who will tune your Kinugawa? I am in Nashville not that far from Lexington. Please post dyno curves when ready, I will do the same to compare vs my 20G non-billet comp wheel.
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So how expensive is this STS wheel you speak of?

I'm in the midst of making a franken 20G, and I'm looking for the best flowing most up to date technology to stuff into this thing before I put it back together.

~Evil
We tried to work a deal with Kamak for some exposure/write-up/exploitation of the STS technology and the best price we could muster was still over $1600 which IMO is high for an untested, unknown journal bearing turbo.

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Who will tune your Kinugawa? I am in Nashville not that far from Lexington. Please post dyno curves when ready, I will do the same to compare vs my 20G non-billet comp wheel.
A guy named Bruce. He's tuned most of the cars in the Lexington area and a few from Cincy and Louisville. Feel free to pop over to www.cincyscoobs.com where we all hang out. My car and a number of the other cars we've worked on have build threads going on there. Bruce is actually the guy that introduced me to the Kamak/Kinugawa stuff from his knowledge of the Korean Genesis Coupe drift scene where the Kamak hybrids are quite popular.
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Stephen Clark of IA performance does all my tuning. [etuning] 20k+ miles on his first tune and its still running strong. He will be Tuning my 20G as well

Basically what my turbo will be comprised of is a TBO chra and pnp 8cm housing, 12 blade turbine wheel (56/65) although the 9 blade STS would be optimal, billet 10 blade compressor wheel (56/68), kinugawa 3" anti-surge compressor cover, and kinugawa SS oil feed/ coolant lines. Of course fresh bearings and seals too.

I really am excited to have all the pieces of the puzzle together, on the car, and tuned.

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