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Old 03-09-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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Default Nürburgring Nordschleife 2.0 .... in Nevada

http://jalopnik.com/5891398/man-want...ring-in-nevada

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Man Wants To Build Exact Copy Of Nürburgring… In Nevada

Since the greater Las Vegas area only has a copy of Paris, New York, Venice, and alien-occupied ancient Egypt, it's still a good ways away from having a copy of all of Earth's good stuff. Luckily, Bruton Smith, CEO of Speedway Motorsports, is working to fix that, starting with a copy of the Nürburgring.

In this interview on Sirius XM Sports, Smith reveals that he's been talking to "some Germans" about the possibility of creating an exact duplicate of the Nürburgring in Nevada, likely 10 or so miles away from the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Smith is very confident he can produce an exact replica, and has been talking to both the Governor and the Nevada Bureau of Land Management, who he's hoping will donate 8,000 acres of land for the project. And why wouldn't they? Nevada has plenty of open dirt without any Nürburgrings at all— this could take care of that situation.

The Nevada 'Ring wouldn't be used for racing, just test track use, though individuals as well as manufacturers could use it.

So what you're saying is that I could be a four hour drive from the Nürburgring, and then moments from $4.99 lobster and the loosest slots in town? Yes, please.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:51 PM   #2
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Will there be a city in the middle of it?

Also, I hope this happens. Germany is such a long and difficult drive from UT.
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #3
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oh please let this happen!
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:31 PM   #4
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I think he should build something even better " )
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:40 PM   #5
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another NASCAR oval?
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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But the N'ring already exists
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:47 PM   #7
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But the N'ring already exists
Yeah, but it's covered in snow and/or rain for over half the year.

In Vegas it would be covered in glorious sunshine 350 days a year.
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:53 PM   #8
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Sounds legit to me... that's a good use of taxpayer money right there! (not really, but I'm still in favor of it.)
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #9
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This sounds awesome. They could charge 20 bucks a lap and people would still line up for it endlessly. It only really has to be 90% the same to be honest. You could make it safer with better runoff areas, build up hotels around it.

This will make money, but my GOD the cost would be crazy.

But think of the awesome headline

Justin Beiber kills himself in his new Zonda playing on the Arizona Ring of speed.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #10
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By the way,

I call DIBS on the first graffiti on it.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:47 PM   #11
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What a waste of breath. The Nurburgring has 1000 feet of elevation change, you can't replicate that without literally building a mountain. Also one of that things that makes the Nurburgring a good test track is because it is old and has variety pavement types and different conditions of pavement. This also is not something you can duplicate to get the same effect.

The end result would be something sort of shaped like the Nurburgring, but it wouldn't be the same at all and no one would really car after the novelty wore off.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:53 PM   #12
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Now, this is a great idea! if this guy pulls it off, I'd bet you will see similar tracks throughout the states by other entrepreneurs. There could be restaurants, picnic areas, camp ground... Sort of like a tourist place.Buahahahha!
Be the first to open up a gas station there and you'll sell tons!

Although its flattering to copy the Nurburgring, I'd like to see him add something new to the track that will make his unique. Like those hair pin roads in Initial-D that Tack race on or the one in laguna Seca,ect...
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:08 PM   #13
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Hmm...Nevada...

Good luck keeping your "hell" green
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:36 PM   #14
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What a waste of breath. The Nurburgring has 1000 feet of elevation change, you can't replicate that without literally building a mountain. Also one of that things that makes the Nurburgring a good test track is because it is old and has variety pavement types and different conditions of pavement. This also is not something you can duplicate to get the same effect.

The end result would be something sort of shaped like the Nurburgring, but it wouldn't be the same at all and no one would really car after the novelty wore off.
Man relax. Everyone knows its not gonna be a carbon copy.

It's would make it more accessible to us and will add a new track for American GT racing. Also, the amount of business and jobs it would create.
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Man relax. Everyone knows its not gonna be a carbon copy.

It's would make it more accessible to us and will add a new track for American GT racing. Also, the amount of business and jobs it would create.
You won't see a circuit like that utilized for racing because it causes issues with safety crews being too far away from the accidents.
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The Nürburgring is arguably one of the most impressive tracks in the worlds. The famous German circuit located in the Eifel mountains, is known for its motorsports history, length and challenge it provides. Therefore the Nürburgring a major attraction for petrol heads from all over the world.

Besides being a driving enthusiasts’ Valhalla, the Ring serves nowadays as a demanding proving ground for car manufacturers and media. Many of them use the 22,8km long Nordschleife as a standard to publish their lap times achieved with their cars and sometimes even unveil a special Nürburgring Edition. This might upset Top Gear host James May, who has regularly expressed his dissatisfaction with the influence of the track when it’s used by car makers to develop new models. But the huge impact of the Nürburgring inspires other people.

Bruton Smith, the CEO of Speedway Motorsports, has proposed to build an exact replica of the German circuit in Nevada. In an interview with SiriusXM Sports he talked about possibly building a duplicate of the Nürburgring outside of Las Vegas. The 84-year-old Smith has been talking to the Governor and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), which administers over 75% of the land in Nevada. Smith wants the BLM to donate 8,000 acres (32 km²) of land for the project.

If this project gets the green light from the authorities, Smith will ‒ with some help of engineers in Germany ‒ create an exact replica of the Nürburgring. He also said this track wouldn’t be used for racing, but for only testing. A major benefit of this proposed circuit is the fact is could be used 12 months a year, which according to Smith is not possible in Germany. The Nevada Ring could be used by car manufacturers as well as individuals.

This idea might seem a little bit far stretched, but let’s not forget this is Las Vegas ‒ a city filled with replicas of Paris, Venice, New York and more. But the myth of the Nürburgring in Germany is not only created by its history, but also by the regions sometimes challenging weather. While Las Vegas enjoys abundant sunshine year-round, this can’t be said about the original track in Germany.

What do you think about the proposal to build a copy of the Nürburgring near Las Vegas? Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments below.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:04 AM   #17
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:02 AM   #18
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I'd say shoot for something better than the ring. Just making a copy of something that is already world renowned is going to be somewhat lame. I know an exact copy would be easier to market at the beginning, but once the novelty wears off, people will realize that so much of driving on the ring is the whole history of it, which will be completely absent from Nev-urgring.

Similarly, what self-respecting manufacturer would test their cars on a knock-off track, when the main point of testing on the ring is the prestige?
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #19
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They would probably save a crapload of money, esp if the car in question was manufactured in the states, no overseas shipping, no winter limitation, etc. Posts like lens above are right, but, never underestimate the power of us muricans not not care about heritage of "somewhere else". Most of the US wont care and may not even ever have heard of nurburgring. Besides, they could put several other replica tracks inside the inbounds of the NVring, dragways, etc, short tracks, Tsukuba replicas....
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:41 PM   #20
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seems like it would be cheaper to buy a ps3 and gt5
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Old 03-10-2012, 06:28 PM   #22
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You won't see a circuit like that utilized for racing because it causes issues with safety crews being too far away from the accidents.
That doesn't mean they couldn't build a smaller circuit within the larger overall track.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:59 PM   #23
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What a waste of breath. The Nurburgring has 1000 feet of elevation change, you can't replicate that without literally building a mountain. Also one of that things that makes the Nurburgring a good test track is because it is old and has variety pavement types and different conditions of pavement. This also is not something you can duplicate to get the same effect.

The end result would be something sort of shaped like the Nurburgring, but it wouldn't be the same at all and no one would really car after the novelty wore off.
That elevation change is over 14 miles, not quite the mountain you make it out to be.

Also, there's no way this would be open to the public. If that was viable, it would already exist. The insurance has to be mind blowing.
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:51 PM   #24
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Nah, insurance wouldn't be any worse than any other track. Almost every other road racing track is now available for club days, and several new tracks like Monticello and Autobahn have opened just to cater to the track day crowd.

The real death of the track would be construction and operating costs versus income. There just aren't enough road racing series or public interest in America to pay for the enormous capital outlay to build this thing. It has to be viable from the club racing business model and I'm not sure Vegas is a place with a large enough market to pay for it and the amount you can charge for a club day doesn't go up by the track-mile.

Of course I would be on it in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:49 PM   #25
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i think we should just discuss about how cool and fun it would be and how NASIOC should all meet up and have a drive.

Lets let the analysis take care of the construction and economics.
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