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Old 09-29-2011, 02:21 PM   #1
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Default Did this happen to anyone else's SWP 2011 WRX?

I have yellow stains that drip all the way down from the wheel well to the side of the car. I think it is from the tire shine that the dealership used when they detailed the car prior to me picking it up. I posted some pictures, the pictures are of the stain AFTER i tried claying, polish compound and then wax.

Has this happened to anyone else? What other methods do you think i should try to get remove it? And if it will not come up, i will bring it to the dealership where i bought it and hopefully they can do something about it. I know its not much, but on my first brand new WRX, lol this is HUGE!





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Old 09-29-2011, 04:26 PM   #2
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...the pictures are of the stain AFTER i tried claying, polish compound and then wax.
....well, waxing will not do anything to help remove the stains. What "polish compound" did you use?
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:53 PM   #3
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wow! i would be furious about that! i would try 3m adhesive remover. if that doesnt remove it, im thinking they will need to repaint those lower pieces if buffing doesnt do it. either way, make sure they fix it 100% to new condition. make them aware that if they dont make it right, you will destroy them on the survey. talk to the sales manager.
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:22 PM   #4
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I would take it back to the dealership and ask for it to be buffed out. that might be the only remedy if the clay bar wasn't able to get rid of it. that or it may just go away eventually
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:48 PM   #5
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I had some yellow crap inside my wheel well as well but the RA mudflap hid all that

I tried EVERYTHING I could think of, buffing, claying, it seems to be absorbed into the clear coat
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:27 AM   #6
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I dont have that problem at all. Sorry to hear it's happening to you!
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:38 AM   #7
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On a side note, I just switched to a different tire wet spray. I think it recently came out and it's about twice as expensive as the normal stuff. I don't have it in front of me but I think it's made by Meguire's and comes in a purple spray bottle. The stuff is awesome! You spray it on and it almost creates a candy coating on the tire. After 10 minutes, there is absolutely nothing that can spray off on the car. That being said, make sure you wipe off an excess from the wheel as soon as possible because if it dries on the wheel, it's kinda of a pain to get off (it will come off though).

I had to switch because after spending hours washing my car and then putting various tire wet products on the wheels, no matter how long I waited (even overnight), the next time I drove it, I'd get black splatters all over the sides from the spin off. I love this new stuff!

EDIT: This post was supposed to be after the one below. For some reason my first post didn't take so I had to write it again.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:40 AM   #8
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When washing my 2011 SWP WRX, I'll usually rinse it down and then spray some Rain-X Bug & Tar remover on those inner wheel well pieces. Let it sit for a few minutes and then scrub. Seems to work pretty well although I'm pretty sure those pieces aren't painted very well and there's really no way to get around it staining. However, if any detailer guru has some advice, please tell us!!

OP, let us know what you end up doing and/or what the dealership ends up doing...
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:46 AM   #9
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On a side note, I just switched to a different tire wet spray. I think it recently came out and it's about twice as expensive as the normal stuff. I don't have it in front of me but I think it's made by Meguire's and comes in a purple spray bottle. The stuff is awesome! You spray it on and it almost creates a candy coating on the tire. After 10 minutes, there is absolutely nothing that can spray off on the car. That being said, make sure you wipe off an excess from the wheel as soon as possible because if it dries on the wheel, it's kinda of a pain to get off (it will come off though).

I had to switch because after spending hours washing my car and then putting various tire wet products on the wheels, no matter how long I waited (even overnight), the next time I drove it, I'd get black splatters all over the sides from the spin off. I love this new stuff!
….I will be the first to admit that my hands-on experiences with various tire dressings are somewhat limited. However, I typically opt for water based dressings that can be buffed down to a satin or matte shine. Personally, I never really had any luck with (or liked) most of those solvent based and/or “spay on, walk away” products that leave a greasy look. I also use an applicator to apply the product rather than spraying the tire directly. Also, I found deep cleaning the tires periodically really helps get a better result. IME, a clean tire takes less product, less effort to maintain, you have more control of the level of finish you want to achieve and the tires tend to keep their “look” longer. Adding a dressing to a tire that has build up of old product and/or road grime can create an uneven finish, etc. …..unless of course you cover them up with goopy, glossy products but then they are also the type of formulations that might have the tendency to sling.

Having said that, that’s not to say there are not products/techniques out there that will produce the “wet look” without the hassle of sling. There are also semi-permanent ones that actually dry more like a coating than a traditional dressing.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:41 PM   #10
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What's your take on the Armor All Extreme Tire Shine Gel (http://armorall.com/products/view_pr...ory_index=tire) I'm nervous that Armor All products aren't as "high end" as others... but this seems to work well. Have not had any sling with it and it gives it a nice finish... definitely like the applicator as opposed to the spray.
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Old 09-30-2011, 06:07 PM   #11
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What's your take on the Armor All Extreme Tire Shine Gel (http://armorall.com/products/view_pr...ory_index=tire) I'm nervous that Armor All products aren't as "high end" as others... but this seems to work well. Have not had any sling with it and it gives it a nice finish... definitely like the applicator as opposed to the spray.
Iíve never used it myself but I wouldnít necessarily be too quick to judge a product based on price or where I am able to buy it either (i.e. boutique vs. retail store). The product Iím currently using (Duragloss 253) is reasonably priced. Ö.itís also available at some retail automotive parts stores.

If the product is providing the result you are looking for and you are happy with its overall performance with no notable, adverse affects (i.e. sling, runs, browning, etc.), then I donít see a problem sticking with it. Ö..unless youíre simply curious and want to try something else. Why are you nervous about using it?
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:16 PM   #12
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Kean:
What's your take on the Armor All Extreme Tire Shine Gel (http://armorall.com/products/view_pr...ory_index=tire) I'm nervous that Armor All products aren't as "high end" as others... but this seems to work well. Have not had any sling with it and it gives it a nice finish... definitely like the applicator as opposed to the spray.
I've used that gel before and was not satisfied at all. its greasy and a PITA to clean off even after endless scrubbing. The shine lasts around 1-3 days even though Armorall claims it lasts for weeks. I use the spray on Prestone deep gloss shine because it is convenient for me. Claims to last 3k miles (but come on, who believes that?) and on good conditions (dry)the luster can last a couple of weeks with my DD, downside is that it doesnt really hold up well in the rain but i just wipe down the tires with a rag and its clean again.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:18 AM   #13
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Not really an update, more of just a plan lol. I am taking it to the dealer to pick up my plates on monday and i am going to address the problem to them.

I spoke with the owner of a specialized car care specialty store in my area and he had advised me on what products to use. I get free washes after every service but i no longer want them touching my car lol. I will post up pics if it comes out, and if i can't get it out, then i will try to raise hell at the dealership.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:19 PM   #14
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Ok, I finally double checked what the new stuff I use is called (I just washed my car last night). It's Meguire's Endurance Tire Spray. Here's a random link to it...

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Meguiar-s-...i_sku=16550271

Back to the issue at hand. After washing the car, I noticed horrible staining of the white pieces inside the wheel well. I couldn't get it off with the carwash soap and water. Not sure what to do about this. Has anyone had any suggestions about what to do? I can take some pics but not sure where to host them.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:09 PM   #15
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yeah it happened to my friend's '11 swp. he said it was from tire shine too
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:12 AM   #16
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Iíve never used it myself but I wouldnít necessarily be too quick to judge a product based on price or where I am able to buy it either (i.e. boutique vs. retail store). The product Iím currently using (Duragloss 253) is reasonably priced. Ö.itís also available at some retail automotive parts stores.

If the product is providing the result you are looking for and you are happy with its overall performance with no notable, adverse affects (i.e. sling, runs, browning, etc.), then I donít see a problem sticking with it. Ö..unless youíre simply curious and want to try something else. Why are you nervous about using it?
Kean do yo use the #253 just on the tire or the wheel too ?
Also what product do you use to actually clean the tire and wheel ?
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:16 AM   #17
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Kean do yo use the #253 just on the tire or the wheel too ?
Also what product do you use to actually clean the tire and wheel ?
Thank you,
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Hi Rob,

DG #253 is a "Tire & Rubber Dressing". ....I only use it on the tires. On my own vehicles, typically just a car wash soap solution (along with agitation with some of my brushes) is adequate. I also will occasionally apply a sealant on the wheels to make them easier to clean. Rarely do I find the need to use stronger cleaners except (every now and again) on the tires to remove build up (of product, road grime, etc.). In those cases I might just use an APC (like a dilution of Meguiars APC+) or (in more rare scenarios) Eagle One A2Z. ....by avoiding cleaners on the wheels my sealant will last longer as well.

On the subject of sealants, I like FK1000P for this task. I like it's resilience and ability to shed contamination. Optimum Opti-Seal is another one I like for it's ease of use. I actually apply OS via an airbrush and since it is a WOWA (wipe on, walk away) product, its fast and easy. However, this all may change since I started experimenting with Optimum Opti-Coat (not to be confused with Opti-Seal). OC is a permanent coating that can resist harsh cleaners and also sheds quite well. This may end up being my ultimate solution for wheels. ....it is what is currently on the shiny side of my wife's Forester (our DD).
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:30 PM   #18
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Welcome to SWP hell.....get use to random stains on the paint.
Most the time they will go away with a couple of washes. I get bug(beetle) **** on mine and it leaves a yellow orangish stain for a week or two. Also tire shine if slung it causes awsome stains
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:50 PM   #19
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This thread scares me. I just washed my week old SWP sedan and thankfully didn't see any stains yet. I put an order in for collinite and will be putting it on asap so hopefully that will keep the paint a little more protected. My tires will not be dressed for the time being.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:07 PM   #20
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This is 110% from tire shine, most likely a silicone tire shine. I have seen this on cars I detail and its always the same reason, tire shine!

I have tried multiple ways to try and remove this stuff but have found no answer. The clear coat is pretty much stained. No chemical is gonna remove it.

For when it did it to my subie a few years back I had to wetsand the areas and then compound, polish.

I never again used silicone tire shine. Water based is the way. It doesn't last as long but its safe and wipes off easily on paint and will not stain.
Problem I could possibly see is that your right next to edges which sucks when wet sanding and buffing since the paint is thinner and usually more brittle.

Just to clarify its a new car and did you see this right away or was it after you drove the car a few hundred miles?
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:01 AM   #21
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Yup I noticed that I had the same kind of splatter within 100 mi of receiving the car, but more like small spots instead of streaks like yours. I tried various bug/tar remover products, and even claying, but I couldn't get it off.

I thought maybe it was road oil from the newly paved roads I drove on but maybe it was the dealer tire shine.

Anyway, 7250 mi now and I think it's not as noticeable as before - perhaps the washing/waxing/claying took some of it off over time.
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I would say maybe try using a porter cable/buffer with a nice cutting polish, or maybe goo gone, or rubbing compound. and for tire treatment that dries to the touch I use this stuff. Plus it lasts weeks not days. Anything OTC will 99% sling no matter what it says. I detail on the side, and by almost all my stuff from chemical guys. A lot cheaper than otc junk, and better quality stuff! I bought a gallon jug for $20 that's still half full after two years of use, little bit goes a long ways. Hope this helps-
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I just noticed that I have just one stain the size of a dime on the same spot as the OP which is not to bad I can live with it.
On a side note what do you guys/Kean use for interior/dashboard ?
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:47 PM   #24
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I just noticed that I have just one stain the size of a dime on the same spot as the OP which is not to bad I can live with it.
On a side note what do you guys/Kean use for interior/dashboard ?
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:51 PM   #25
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On a side note what do you guys/Kean use for interior/dashboard ?
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I have always liked and still use 1Z (Einszett) Cockpit Premium like SubyDude mentioned but my current "go to" has been Meguiars Quik (not a spelling error) Interior Detailer. It is very similar to 1Z CP but certainly cheaper and more readily available. However, what you choose will depend entirely on what your are looking for in an interior cleaner/dressing/protectant.

I like a product that doesn't leave any sheen of its own and will leave the interior surfaces "OEM-like". Both 1Z CP and QID deliver that. They also both have a clean, citrus scent that doesn't linger more than a few hours. There are a lot of decent products out there to choose from.

One word of advice I would give you (or anyone for that matter) is do yourself a favor and not base your decisions on what products you choose solely due to whether they are sold through local retailers or some online/boutique source. I have used (and still do use) a variety of products from a variety of sources and a variety of companies. ....Meguiars, Eagle One, Mothers, Chemical Guys, Zaino, Optimum, 1Z, Collinite, FinishKare, Duragloss, P21s, Klasse, Wolfgang, DP, 303.........and those are off the top of my head. I choose to judge products based on their individual merits.
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