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Old 03-22-2012, 05:01 PM   #1
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Default Official EPA Fuel Economy Numbers for 2013 BRZ

The EPA's website for automobile fuel economy numbers has been updated with values for the 2013 Subaru BRZ:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymod...baru_BRZ.shtml

The 6AT gets significantly better fuel economy than the 6MT:
3 mpg better in the city
4 mpg better on the highway
3 mpg better combined

The EPA estimates the 6AT's annual fuel costs would be $250/year lower than the 6MT's. Note: that estimate assumes premium gasoline (required by the BRZ) costs $4.12/gallon. Those savings could more than pay for the extra cost of the 6AT over the life of the car.
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:49 AM   #2
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Yes but then you'd be stuck with an automatic in a sports car, which sorta defeats the whole purpose of buying the car.
Especially if you intend on tracking it any sort of way.
It's not a goddam commuter econbox, this a light sports coupe.
I'm startinng to think the BRZ/FRS may be the most misunderstood car of all time.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:22 PM   #3
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Your mileage may vary.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:56 PM   #4
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Yes but then you'd be stuck with an automatic in a sports car, which sorta defeats the whole purpose of buying the car.
Especially if you intend on tracking it any sort of way.
It's not a goddam commuter econbox, this a light sports coupe.
I'm startinng to think the BRZ/FRS may be the most misunderstood car of all time.
The BRZ is designed for driving pleasure. Porsches equipped with Tiptronic always outsold their manual counterparts and are just as much fun to drive.

To quote Ham Loring:
"If you enjoy wasting your time rowing the car along, OK, but don't knock those of us who would rather concentrate on the task of driving rather than having to constantly muck with a wiggle-stick. BTW, the BRZ auto is smart enough to downshift as you dive into a corner and blips the throttle for you. Its sort of nice to be able to hold on to the wheel with both hands when you are trail-braking."
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:02 PM   #5
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To quote Ham Loring:
"If you enjoy wasting your time rowing the car along, OK, but don't knock those of us who would rather concentrate on the task of driving rather than having to constantly muck with a wiggle-stick. BTW, the BRZ auto is smart enough to downshift as you dive into a corner and blips the throttle for you. Its sort of nice to be able to hold on to the wheel with both hands when you are trail-braking."
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"If you enjoy wasting your time driving the car along, OK, but don't knock those of us who would rather ride in a rollercoaster and enjoy the movement rather than having to constantly muck with that annoying driving thing.

BTW, the BRZ auto is smart enough to downshift as you dive into a corner and blips the throttle for you. Its sort of nice not to have to actually put in time to master something, instant gratification is always more rewarding."
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:06 PM   #6
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I sincerly doubt the car is going to down shift at just the right moment for me when autocrossing it. There are also alot of moments where it's also necessary to have the clutch in (disengaged).
If you're only going to hardpark it at car meets or the occasional Starbux run go ahead and get the automatic then.

For the record I happen to own a Porsche 911, it's manual, and air-cooled - a proper Porsche.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:41 PM   #7
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Your mileage may vary.
For sure. The autoblog review I just read said they averaged 16 mpg. I've never had that low of a number in my modified legacy.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:14 PM   #8
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I sincerly doubt the car is going to down shift at just the right moment for me when autocrossing it.
That's why it has paddle shifters. The shift logic and sturdy lock-up clutch are based on the IS-F's transmission, which you should drive before denouncing. I didn't believe it until I drove one myself (the IS-F, not the BRZ).. and I'm a life-long automatic transmission hater.

If the BRZ's automatic works half as well as the IS-F's it would be the only torque-converter-equipped car I'd buy under $60,000.

Not to say I'd pass up the manual to buy the automatic.. I enjoy heel-toe downshifts too much.. but if I lost my left leg tomorrow, I'd be ordering a BRZ auto on Thursday.

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There are also alot of moments where it's also necessary to have the clutch in (disengaged).
Not in performance driving, there aren't. The clutch should be engaged anytime the vehicle is in motion and you aren't in the middle of a shift. .. unless you're talking about handbrake stuff.


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For sure. The autoblog review I just read said they averaged 16 mpg. I've never had that low of a number in my modified legacy.
That's driving very hard down some very windy roads for very long time in Southern France. By comparison, my '08 STI got about 12mpg while lapping Carolina Motorsports Park.
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Old 03-28-2012, 04:27 PM   #9
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No doubt a proper Porsche is MT, but look at the facts that more people want the AT for obvious reasons. This is why I think there should be an STI AT version = it might equal more sales - good for Subaru bad for fanbois.

Not everyone needs to master how they drive their car, just to pick up the kids, go to dinner or the grocery store.
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:33 PM   #10
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For sure. The autoblog review I just read said they averaged 16 mpg. I've never had that low of a number in my modified legacy.
I can watch the gas needle go down in my WRX when I do autcross. Usually uses about half a tank for a whole day to go maybe 50 miles. Full throttle + high boost = gulp gulp gulp.

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To quote Ham Loring:
"If you enjoy wasting your time rowing the car along, OK, but don't knock those of us who would rather concentrate on the task of driving rather than having to constantly muck with a wiggle-stick. BTW, the BRZ auto is smart enough to downshift as you dive into a corner and blips the throttle for you. Its sort of nice to be able to hold on to the wheel with both hands when you are trail-braking."
Pretty sure you are supposed to get all your shifting done in a straight line.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:05 PM   #11
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Normally aspirated gasoline engines with high compression ratios tend to be more efficient as long as there is no knock. Thus, I'm not surprised that the automatic version of the BRZ is gets decent gas mileage with its taller gearing.
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Auto

25
City
28
Combined
34
Highway

Manual

City
25
Combined
30
Highway
$2500

At least there will be less of these sold than the 2012 Impreza. Less bitching about MPG's!
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:38 PM   #14
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Auto

25
City
28
Combined
34
Highway

Manual

City
25
Combined
30
Highway
$2500

At least there will be less of these sold than the 2012 Impreza. Less bitching about MPG's!
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