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Old 03-23-2012, 07:19 PM   #1
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Default Various BRZ Reviews and Some Stats

FYI for those that haven't seen this, a bunch a reviews have been posted:

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...and-video.html
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...brz/index.html
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/dr...013-subaru-brz
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ed_first_test/
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...IEWS/120329931
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...942708538.html

And for you bench-racers:

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0-60 MPH: 6.4, 7.0 (7.3 w/out rollout)
1/4 mile: 14.9 @ 95.5, 15.3 @ 92.1
Slalom:   69.1
Skidpad:  0.92, 0.90
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Last edited by Deslock; 03-23-2012 at 10:40 PM. Reason: Added WSJ link, note about rollout, and 2nd skidpad number
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:28 PM   #2
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yep....I likey....ALOT... can't wait for mine to get here...all that on stock tires...with the proper suspension...Sticky Rubber...should be well over 1g...

Come on may..

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Old 03-23-2012, 10:13 PM   #3
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And for you bench-racers:

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0-60 MPH: 6.4, 7.3
1/4 mile: 14.9 @ 95.5, 15.3 @ 92.1
Slalom:   69.1
Skidpad:  0.92
Please point out that Inside Line's 0-60 mph time is without 1-foot roll-out. It's 7.0 seconds with roll-out if you are trying to compare apples-to-apples. Roll-out shouldn't be used, but the magazines still use it. By using roll-out, the car is not actually at 0 mph when the clock starts.

If IL's skidpad number of 0.92g is going to be used, Motor Trend's lower 0.90g should also be mentioned here. MT also doesn't post the weather and atmospheric conditions when their testing was conducted.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:39 PM   #4
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Please point out that Inside Line's 0-60 mph time is without 1-foot roll-out. It's 7.0 seconds with roll-out if you are trying to compare apples-to-apples. Roll-out shouldn't be used, but the magazines still use it. By using roll-out, the car is not actually at 0 mph when the clock starts.

If IL's skidpad number of 0.92g is going to be used, Motor Trend's lower 0.90g should also be mentioned here. MT also doesn't post the weather and atmospheric conditions when their testing was conducted.
All good points (I just missed the 2nd skidpad number originally). I updated the OP with your suggestions and added the WSJ review.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:52 PM   #5
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I'm sure some people will get even better numbers than that. And it won't take much to go a little quicker of course.

The slalom/skidpad numbers though... VERY impressive!
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:56 PM   #6
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The slalom/skidpad numbers though... VERY impressive!
Especially with the crap tires. Can't wait to see what proper autocross street tires do for it.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:06 AM   #7
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Especially with the crap tires. Can't wait to see what proper autocross street tires do for it.
I'm curious what you consider a "proper autocross street" tire. I autocrossed an 05 LGT on more than one good street tire, but found them sorely lacking as an autocross tire. Further, at the price of street tires that I find acceptable, autocrossing destroys them in short order and wastes a lot of their life in lieu of mediocre performance at best. In my mind, an autocross tire is a dedicated tire on dedicated wheels.

FWIW, the 05 LGT came with the same size wheels and tires stock as the BRZ does... and it was 500lbs heavier. I don't relate to the current opinion that the BRZ's tires are crap. The tire itself may be, but the wheel/tire choice IMO are entirely adequate for the car, street-performance wise. I'll concede that I, too, prefer a "look" I get when coilovers allowes me to adjust the fender-to-tire gap. However, at an already-low 4.x inch ground clearance I believe any lowering of the BRZ will compromise its streetability far too much... I know. That said, for those who have racing in mind, there are already options and I'm sure many more will come.

It is exciting to be discussing modification directions on a car that's yet to be on the street. The BRZ is going to enjoy a fascinating future, IMO, because it starts off by offering itself as many things, limited only by owners' imaginations.
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Old 03-26-2012, 02:54 PM   #8
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I sold my STI, but when I auto crossed it, I used Yokohama Advan Neova AD07s, Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs, Falken 615s, Bridgestone Potenza RE-01Rs, and the stock Bridgestone RE070s. The Yoks and the Dunlops being the best. I hear the new Hankook Ventus RS3 is a solid choice as well. Pretty much anyone competitive in an ST class had to run one of those tires or they just wouldn't have enough grip to compete.
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