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Old 03-25-2012, 05:48 PM   #1
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So I figured I'd post up my trek to get my truck and car to title in Arizona.

Coming from California. California's smog program sucks balls. Its a huge rip off and take for ever. They almost xray your car to make sure you have everything. And its $65-85 per test and takes about 45 min. If you fail you are dumped into a special list that gets checked more then not. I am glad that I have not had to smog the Subaru just yet. But its coming next year. California is no smog for the 1st 6 year on a brand new car.

So onto Arizona. I was worried about my truck. It passed California smog last year. Its a 2006 GMC 2500HD Only mods are CAI, power tuner, lift kit and 35's

So 1st stop was to a private dmv office. Arizona has the state run DMV offices or you can go to a place that does it for a few dollars more. State run offices are long lines and lots of waiting. Least thats how I saw it when I got my DL few years ago.

So I went to the place off bell rd and 97th ave. Its a hole in the wall private DMV office. Walked in with my title. Asked them what do I need to do.

I needed a clear title, or a Reg card with the lein holder, proof of insurance and a smog check. They would do the rest. So with no smog in hand I left to come back later.

On my way home from the subaru show I looked at the time and saw the smog shop on bell rd was still open and it had no wait time. I pulled in. I was worried as I still had the 91 tune on my truck. But what the hell ....

So I pull into the bay. hand the guy my ticket. He asked me to put the truck in park and pop the hood. Then I stepped out.

They hooked the exhaust probe up at the tail pipe. Then the guy climbed into the truck. After scanning the vin bar code and looking under the hood they started the test.
Basically it was run on the dyno and at what ever speed and it lasted 30 seconds or less. They then checked the gas cap and then looked for the cat under the truck.
The inspector then walked over asking for $18 and gave me my paperwork. I was worried I had failed. But it was a pass. Even with the power tuner map installed. I was there less then 8 minutes to get all this done. I was shocked....

So tomorrow I will head back over to the private dmv office and turn in my title and give them my smog cert and I should get my plates and Az reg on the spot. Total with the fee's they charge it will be $218 for my truck. Not bad.

Tomorrow I will post up the trip to get that all done.

With that all done for the 1st time I will then do the Subaru when its done so I will know the process better after going thru it for the 1st time.

Lots of people say they do not look for cats. But this place did look on my truck. Maybe with being lifted they did it. Since the car is lower they may not look. My car has a cat anyways. So I'm not that worried.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:41 PM   #2
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I've never been checked for cats. They don't even look twice at the car. Hell, last time it was smoking pretty heavy and they didn't care. Plugged it in, checked the gas cap and I was on my way. I've never heard of them doing a sniffer test for an OBD2 car. Strange.

As near as I can tell, emissions in AZ are a joke and highly ineffective. Its more a fast grab for cash and a minor headache.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:19 PM   #3
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I've never been checked for cats. They don't even look twice at the car. Hell, last time it was smoking pretty heavy and they didn't care. Plugged it in, checked the gas cap and I was on my way. I've never heard of them doing a sniffer test for an OBD2 car. Strange.

As near as I can tell, emissions in AZ are a joke and highly ineffective. Its more a fast grab for cash and a minor headache.
diesels need sniffer

could explain why they checked for cats or because of out of state.

I've maybe heard once of someone with a gas motor get checked for cats, probably a new employee or some rare circumstance.

They probably just assume that if the OBD isn't giving a code for the rear o2 sensors, then the cat is in place and in working order, thus not needing to be visually checked.



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All 1967 through 2008 diesel powered vehicles registered within the emissions control areas of metro Phoenix (Area A) and Tucson (Area B) are required to be emissions tested annually. The only exception is for apportioned vehicles, which are commercial vehicles that are licensed in multiple states. Diesel vehicles pulling trailers will not be accommodated at the inspection stations.

Diesel emissions testing in Pima County and for light-duty (8,500 lbs GVW and less) vehicles in Maricopa County consists of loading the vehicle on a dynamometer and measuring the opacity of the exhaust plume. The measured opacity must not exceed the established maximum. In Pima County the maximum allowable is 30 percent opacity. In Maricopa County the maximum allowable is 20 percent opacity. (The maximum allowable is determined by the average elevation of the registration area).

Heavy-duty (8,501 lbs and greater) diesel vehicles in Maricopa County are tested using the Society of Automotive Engineers J1667 test protocol, commonly referred to as the "snap-acceleration test." The test consists of measuring the opacity of three, wide open throttle, no-load accelerations from idle to maximum governed engine speed with the transmissions in neutral. The average opacity for the three accelerations cannot exceed the applicable standard for the model year of the engine. The maximum allowable for engine model year 1991 and newer is 40 percent opacity, for engine model year 1990 and older the maximum is 55 percent opacity.

All diesel vehicles are subject to a tampering inspection at the time of emissions inspection. Tampering inspection includes the presence of properly fitted fuel tank caps as well as the operation of any emission control devices required at the time of manufacture of the vehicle.

Diesel powered vehicles may be tested at any of the vehicle emissions inspection stations in Maricopa County. In Pima County, heavy-duty diesel vehicles (26,000 lbs GVW or greater, or any truck with tandem drive axles) must be tested at 6661 S. Renaissance Dr., Tucson, AZ 85746.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:13 AM   #4
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They hook up sniffers on all heavy trucks/vehicles, but on passenger cars with OBDII, they just plug into the OBDII connector.

I know a lot of people without cats and they pass no problem.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:20 AM   #5
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When I moved from Colorado, they had to do an inspection at the MVD. It was basically just a VIN check. As far as I know, with any AWD and OBD-II car, all they do is hook up to the OBD-II and check the gas cap.
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Old 03-26-2012, 02:47 AM   #6
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When I moved from Colorado, they had to do an inspection at the MVD. It was basically just a VIN check. As far as I know, with any AWD and OBD-II car, all they do is hook up to the OBD-II and check the gas cap.
They stopped doing the Level 1 inspection (vin and mileage check)
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Old 03-26-2012, 02:51 AM   #7
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They stopped doing the Level 1 inspection (vin and mileage check)
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:56 AM   #8
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When you go do it in tucson, they check the OBD2 port. That's it......

anything with oBDII doesnt have to go on the dyno anymore.

Anything older will have to go on the dyno.

And if you have AWD you're exempt from the dyno.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:48 PM   #9
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My truck has an obdII and they didnt scan it. They just ran it on the dyno.
So I guess trucks are different
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:50 PM   #10
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My truck has an obdII and they didnt scan it. They just ran it on the dyno.
So I guess trucks are different
Is it diesel?

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #11
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2006 2500HD with 6.0 Gas... 2wd
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:32 PM   #12
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2006 2500HD with 6.0 Gas... 2wd
Wtf?

that definitely doesn't make any sense.

did you buy the truck in Ca?

I dunno that's weird, it should've been $27, for some reason it sounds like they tested you under "all other vehicles" which is supposed to be $19.

absolutely weird
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:14 PM   #13
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Yeah truck was from California. Where I am from. So it might be more of a inspection because of.

I got my plate this morning. Took less then 5 min. $210. For one year reg. Was handed new plate. Tag and title on the spot. Walked out slapped it on the truck and done. She only asked me for mileage
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:02 PM   #14
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They hook up sniffers on all heavy trucks/vehicles, but on passenger cars with OBDII, they just plug into the OBDII connector.

I know a lot of people without cats and they pass no problem.
I think the weight is 3 tons and they dyno/sniff regardless of OBDII.
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I think the weight is 3 tons and they dyno/sniff regardless of OBDII.
oohhh

emissions in tucson is $12
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:52 PM   #16
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Just ordered my personalized plate for the truck. Super easy online. This state is off the hook with the number of plates it offers.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:28 PM   #17
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I am moving to AZ Tucson next month. My CA registration is good until April next year. If I go and change my registration do I get credit for it or do I have to start over due to the new license plate. Thanks sorry for the hijak.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:28 PM   #18
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I am moving to AZ Tucson next month. My CA registration is good until April next year. If I go and change my registration do I get credit for it or do I have to start over due to the new license plate. Thanks sorry for the hijak.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:32 PM   #19
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I am moving to AZ Tucson next month. My CA registration is good until April next year. If I go and change my registration do I get credit for it or do I have to start over due to the new license plate. Thanks sorry for the hijak.
Start from new. I waited till mine ran out. But you can also get a refund from california back in the mail.
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I am moving to AZ Tucson next month. My CA registration is good until April next year. If I go and change my registration do I get credit for it or do I have to start over due to the new license plate. Thanks sorry for the hijak.
If you live/work in AZ, I believe you have 30 days to register your vehicle in AZ to be legal. Your CA registration may be good until next year; however, if you get stopped or some jerk neighbor reports you, you could get fined if it's obvious that you've been living in AZ for awhile. If I remember correctly, the fine isn't a small one either.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:10 PM   #21
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Thanks guys.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:08 AM   #22
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Showed up today



Not bad. Didn't take all that long.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:49 AM   #23
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hmmm i need to look into that fine for out of staters.... i just reregistered in tn for $24 but they dont have emissions or property tax. since im active duty i dont pay wheel tax either. however my active duty id expires in july. so ill need a tag by then or 30 days later...... technically i need a tag now. anyone know how much that fine is? for not registering your vehicle when you move to az?
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:44 AM   #24
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I drove for 4 years on California plates. Never a problem.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:45 PM   #25
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good to know. my tags from tn cost $24 a year. im assuming az tags would cost around $250 a year with all the taxes. but the roads are much better here than anywhere i have lived in the past.
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