BottomLine: NHTSA: re-position hands on wheel to mitigate airbag danger

stewb · 03-26-2012, 11:37 AM

Not sure how this was missed.

Get with the times: You're driving all wrong
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ving-all-wrong

I guess they're not going to report that airbag designs are incorrect. So instead you should drive with your hands at 9-and-3 or 8-and-4 and keep only your fingers on the wheel.

Also, when turning, push the wheel up with one hand and pull it down with the other, without crossing over, lest your hand get degloved as it is pushed into your face by the airbag.

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HaTReD · 03-26-2012, 12:08 PM

what does it say about driving with your knees?

torquemada · 03-26-2012, 12:40 PM

it´s considered as best option

sxotty · 03-26-2012, 01:27 PM

Of course back in the day you were supposed to drive the same way so if your wheel hit something it did not break your thumbs.

Calamity Jesus · 03-26-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stewb

Also, when turning, push the wheel up with one hand and pull it down with the other, without crossing over, lest your hand get degloved as it is pushed into your face by the airbag.

Shuffle steering. It's also really popular among autocrossers as a method of slowing down steering inputs (because you preserve more grip that way) and making inputs more deliberate.

9 & 3 is better than 10 & 2 (or 8 & 4 for that matter) because your hands are balanced on the wheel. Driving at 10 & 2 means you're hanging on the wheel with both hands.. and if you turn the wheel more than 45° in either direction you're hanging both arms off one side of the wheel.. so that when you hit a bump the weight of your arms adds more steering input taking you off your intended line.

The one that drives me crazy is the underhand cross-the-steering-wheel grip you see a lot of ladies and elderly people do (ie: people with weaker arms) to get more leverage when making a sharp turn. You know.. reaching through the wheel to grip the top portion of the rim with their palm and fingernails facing themselves. How many fragments do you think your arm bones shatter into when the explosive in the hub goes off.. I don't want to find out.

SCRAPPYDO · 03-26-2012, 02:44 PM

Agreed ^^^^^ so much with this. I hate it when I see a 98 lb soccer mom in her ubiquitous freaking Tahoe, that needs 36 turns lock to lock to make a turn. She grips the top of the wheel on the inside surface with her palm face up. She holds this for the preceding 4.9 miles before she actually has to turn. Then when the turn comes up she stops and leans her whole body to one side to pull the wheel to make the turn.

WRX_02_227 · 03-26-2012, 03:17 PM

I've never really thought about my arms and such. My questions for airbag deployment are what happens to people who wear glasses or baseball caps and are hit with the airbag.

E. Nick · 03-26-2012, 03:32 PM

How can anyone be expected to do this while texting with one hand and holding their Starbucks with the other? Perhaps an iphone app to steer the car would be safest.

shikataganai · 03-26-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WRX_02_227

I've never really thought about my arms and such. My questions for airbag deployment are what happens to people who wear glasses or baseball caps and are hit with the airbag.

I was hit with a driver's side airbag while wearing glasses. It bent them a little but I just bent them back. Not a big deal. It was quite loud, though, and spurted a fine white powder mist into the air. Not something I'd like to repeat.

Mind · 03-26-2012, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRX_02_227

I've never really thought about my arms and such. My questions for airbag deployment are what happens to people who wear glasses or baseball caps and are hit with the airbag.

Interestingly my glasses flew right off of my face before the airbag hit it.

Calamity Jesus · 03-26-2012, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E. Nick

How can anyone be expected to do this while texting with one hand and holding their Starbucks with the other? Perhaps an iphone app to steer the car would be safest.

Google's already working on the Android app.. and it's what I'm pinning all of my hopes and dreams for a safer future highways on.

WRX_02_227 · 03-26-2012, 07:45 PM

Thanks shikataganai and Mind! I've always wondered what would happen since I wear glasses all the time. Either way airbags don't sound like much fun.

lordgrinz · 03-26-2012, 09:44 PM

I drive one hand at 8 O'Clock, been doing this forever.

HIREN · 03-27-2012, 12:20 AM

That's exactly how they teach you to grip the wheel and turn when racing. Makes sense, gives you more control of the wheel when turning, just takes getting used.

stewb · 03-27-2012, 10:14 AM

This is NASIOC.

http://images.quickblogcast.com/4041.../filmDrive.jpg

03-26-2012, 11:37 AM	#1
stewb Scooby Newbie Member#: 154753 Join Date: Jul 2007 Vehicle: 2008 STI DGM	BottomLine: NHTSA: re-position hands on wheel to mitigate airbag danger Not sure how this was missed. Get with the times: You're driving all wrong http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...ving-all-wrong I guess they're not going to report that airbag designs are incorrect. So instead you should drive with your hands at 9-and-3 or 8-and-4 and keep only your fingers on the wheel. Also, when turning, push the wheel up with one hand and pull it down with the other, without crossing over, lest your hand get degloved as it is pushed into your face by the airbag. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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