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Old 03-28-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:17 PM   #2
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Lol, just kidding, only a jerk would post something like that....


I read the article, and it brings up a lot of interesting points. I would have to agree with a lot of it. Especially when it talks about the internet. People online are very comfortable being the unseen observer with an anonymous voice. The "decline in social skills like empathy" hits it on the head. Compassion for others is all but lost online. Hate, personal attacks and bias opinions seem to rule the comments on most online boards. It's something that I've seen get only worse in the past few years. It makes me glad that I have other hobbies and a busy schedule.

Good post Nomad, albeit a long read.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:20 AM   #3
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Don't talk about me like that!

Does reading one of your post once a week count as my book?

Joke Mike, I read the whole thing and I learner a lot from it. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:24 AM   #4
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Does reading one of your post once a week count as my book?

You fellas crack me up. That takes like 5 minutes to read….

People will wade through pages and pages of "I chano'd so and so", or WGMG but I try to turn on the light, and the cockroaches scatter.


Oh well, back to your regularly schedule programming.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:28 AM   #5
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You fellas crack me up. That takes like 5 minutes to read….

People will wade through pages and pages of "I chano'd so and so", or WGMG but I try to turn on the light, and the cockroaches scatter.

Oh well, back to your regularly schedule programming.
I'm on your side.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #6
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I can recall growing up on St. George island and listening to the old-timers with my Dad. Learning by doing and observing-using all my senses. It never failed to amaze me how the elders could recall things they knew and experienced and how vivid a picture they could paint with their words. It is so easy to look up something on a phone instead of memorizing it. I used to know all the phone numbers I called on a regular basis-not anymore. I believe memory is something that is collectively being erased and atrophied(sp?) in the "Brave New World". Learning skills that would be useful if all technology were gone tomorrow may sound corny and such skills may never be used but I think anyone would be the better for the process.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:46 PM   #7
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Thanks for the post, Nomad. It makes many good points. But I tend to disagree with the primary theme, that modern technology is making us less able to think.

I'm older, and I remember going to engineering school when you learned almost everything from reading text in a book, or by watching a professor demonstrate. Like you, I miss sitting in a quiet corner of a university library and losing myself in study, and like you, it is not as easy as it was -but I blame dying neurons for that -. But I also remember wasting hours and days and weeks searching for, ordering, paying for, and waiting for reference materials that I could obtain in seconds today. I definitely think global learning is far ahead of where it was, in great part because of technology. Especially for folks who don't have the time/money/freedom to stop what they are doing and go to a university for a few years.

The capabilitities that we all have access to now, in terms of volumes of data and the processing horsepower to analyze it are unprecendented and allow learning in ways that were impossible before.

I remember delivering aircraft from the lower 48 to Alaska, when all low-level navigation was done with a watch, compass, map and landmarks (heavy on the landmarks...). Now, I would not consider such a trip without redundant GPS receivers. Times change.

I agree that younger folks do not seem to learn from reading lots of text the way my generation did, but my younger co-workers don't seem to be less capable for it.

On the other hand, the mental exercises the article recommends(journaling, reading more) would, of course, be beneficial. Just like exercising your body, exercising your mind is necessary, and it is easy to forget it.

Thanks again. I always read your posts.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:30 AM   #8
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #9
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There are many ways to go with this... technology is amazing but I think the "need it now" mentality has created...

1) Poor customer service and weakened business relationships in the search for speed.

2) Mental laziness because everything is at our fingertips

3) Unreasonable work loads and stress because there is the ability to have "0" down time in your 8+ work day.

I agree that those that don't adapt will be left behind BUT the door swings both ways... we are seeing a lot less people who can do the basic stuff that my Dad taught me (work on cars, plumbing, carpentry etc.).

I think it would be an eye opener for most people to spend a week (or even a day) doing a job that has little to do with technology... Granny's perspective would be interesting on this since he's young but will be fishing this year and get's put to work on the family ranch a couple of times a year.
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wow... good topic but it lost me about 1/2 way through. due to the beer I drank... probably. Interesting? Yes.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:23 AM   #11
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wow... good topic but it lost me about 1/2 way through. due to the beer I drank... probably. Interesting? Yes.
My brain trust has done gone south and got hisself pickled.

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