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Old 03-29-2012, 08:38 AM   #1
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Default Ford Power Stroke Diesel May Be Pressed Into Military Service

The Power Stroke 6.7-liter turbo-diesel engine used in Ford's Super-Duty pickups battles Ram's Cummins and Chevrolet and GMC's Duramax turbo-diesels head-to-head in sales. Now it may find itself used in an actual firefight if it's picked to power the next generation of the military’s Joint Light Tactical Vehicle.

BAE Systems and partners Northrop Grumman and Meritor Defense plan to submit a proposal today for the engineering and manufacturing development phase of the JLTV program, and would use Ford’s Power Stroke 6.7-liter turbocharged diesel engine to power its fast and light fighting vehicles. BAE Systems noted in a press release that they picked the Power Stroke V8 diesel for the same reason consumers have: the engine’s class-leading fuel economy, horsepower and torque.

“Ford products have a reputation for dependability and performance, even under challenging conditions,” said Ann Hoholick, BAE Systems’ vice president of amphibious and new programs. “With their experience in commercial trucks, we see this as a great fit.” Added Glenn Lamartin, BAE Systems’ JLTV lead, “Most importantly, they are affordable.” In other words, we get more military machine for our tax dollars.

Ford isn’t involved in the proposal, nor is it in partnership with the three companies that want to provide the U.S. military with vehicles that will replace the iconic Humvee from AM General. But in a statement, Ford spokesman Mike Levine said, "We're proud of Ford's 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel engines … and we are proud the engines were chosen to be part of BAE's JLTV entry."

If eventually battle-tested, the engine would give new meaning to the ad tagline, “Built Ford Tough.”
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:57 AM   #2
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Default BAE Systems, Navistar Defense Announce Proposals For Humvee Replacement

Though the venerable Humvee has loyally served the U.S. armed forces in numerous conflicts the world over and inspired GM’s now-defunct Hummer brand, the multi-purpose vehicle is overdue for a replacement. Several defense companies will submit proposals in hopes of winning the massive government contract including BAE Systems and Navistar Defense, both of which have recently announced plans to compete for the right to build the Humvee successor.
BAE Systems plans to submit its proposal for the Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) phase of the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) program. The company says it kept the best elements that resulted from its Technology Development phase and applied them to the EMD prototype (pictured at right). BAE Systems also announced the vehicle will be powered by the same Power Stroke 6.7-liter turbodiesel V-8 found in Ford F-Series Super Duty trucks. The company says this engine was chosen for its class-leading fuel economy and power, and believes it will be a great fit for its JLTV bid.
Navistar Defense will submit a variant of its Saratoga light tactical vehicle, launched last October. Originally conceived to fill a gap in the light tactical vehicle market, the Saratoga is a flexible platform designed with multi-role use and affordability in mind. Navistar says the vehicle has a high degree of commonality with the vehicles already in the field, as you can see from the photo at top, and has been designed and tested according to the company’s own survivability solution, which considers material mix, vehicle structure, and hull shape.
According to BAE Systems, the government plans to award up to three EMD contracts this June. The EMD phase requires each candidate to deliver 22 prototype vehicles, along with accompanying equipment, for testing.
Though the old saying “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” comes to mind, if a Humvee replacement is more effective at keeping our troops alive, we’re all for it. We just hope the winner gets a name that’s as cool and memorable as “Humvee.”
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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So is that going to be the lightest vehicle available to the military?
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:34 AM   #4
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No, the military has a lot of lighter vehicles including dune buggy like vehicles and civilian models as well. Where I work we have a F150.
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:04 PM   #5
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"Ford products have a reputation for dependability and performance"
Not the Power Stroke.
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:05 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Stanley
"Ford products have a reputation for dependability and performance"
Not the Power Stroke.
In their defense (cue rimshot), this isn't the 6.0 being discussed...
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:02 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Stanley View Post
"Ford products have a reputation for dependability and performance"
Not the Power Stroke.
You're thinking of the old Navistar Power Stroke. The new Scorpion is shaping up nicely. Before the Navistar they were good too.
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Hope current Ford Powerstroke better than the super Lemon 6.0 and 6.4 Lemonstroke diesels.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:30 PM   #9
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The 6.0 Navistar had its share of problems. The old 7.3 Navistar was great. The 6.7 is designed and built in-house and so far seems to be doing well. GM and Dodge have outside suppliers for their light duty pickup engines--Isuzu for the Duramax, with Chrysler using a Cummins engine for the Ram pickups like they have since the late 80s.

I'm curious how tight of emissions controls the 6.7 will have for military use.
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