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Old 04-02-2012, 10:12 AM   #1
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No folks, this isn’t an April Fools Joke. A pair of images of the Fisker Atlantic fully revealed has leaked and here is the previously called “Project Nina” in its fully glory.
The Atlantic is believed to be the first of three models under the Project Nina umbrella, and according to previous reports will be powered by a BMW-sourced 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder engine. No specifics have been released on its electric motor.
We’re just a matter of days away now from the official reveal at the New York Auto Show, where Fisker also plans to update everyone on how the business is operating during the last shaky months.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #2
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I do think this looks better than the Karma, but they still need to fix that grille design. Fisker may have penned some beautiful cars for Aston Martin, but that piece separating the grille just doesn't look nice in pictures or in person, though I figure he's doing that because without it, it would likely look too much like an Aston (which isn't a bad thing, but I'm sure he doesn't want to get accused of copying his own design for another manufacturer). But he needs to ditch that trademark grille shape of his, because I've always thought it looked bad on everything outside of Aston Martin:


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Old 04-02-2012, 01:53 PM   #3
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most designers are one trick ponies. They always run home to what they know works in some form or another. Mr. Fiskar, just brought all the good Aston DNA with him he could without being sued.
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So who would buy one when you can buy a BMW, MB or Tesla that is made better and cheaper? They pushed this car out because they were refused more loan money. Destined to die soon with execs pockets full. Might be great as next Delorean for next back to the Future flik
So why did we lend them $530 million to make jobs in Denmark?
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Fisker has been saying the Nina is going to be a 5-series sized car at 3-series prices... and $10,000 cheaper than the Volt for basically the same functionality.
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We both know that those promises and reality will not be the same thing.

Plus fact check, Fiskar did not get 500 million dollars, they only got about half that before the free ride train stopped.
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most designers are one trick ponies. They always run home to what they know works in some form or another. Mr. Fiskar, just brought all the good Aston DNA with him he could without being sued.
And that's what's sad. A guy can make among the most beautiful sports cars on the market, but can't do another design without ripping off his own design on another car.

But I think most designers can at least make two different cars that both look good without being long-lost twins... look at Peter Stevens, he helped design the McLaren F1 and was also involved with the 2004 WRX/STi re-design.
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So who would buy one when you can buy a BMW, MB or Tesla that is made better and cheaper? They pushed this car out because they were refused more loan money. Destined to die soon with execs pockets full. Might be great as next Delorean for next back to the Future flik
So why did we lend them $530 million to make jobs in Denmark?
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why did you guys give millions to have the gm plants moved?
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make no mistake, this was nothing WE as Americans got to decide. I am sure you know that. We did not move the plants anywhere. Fiskar decided to build them using Finnish plants. NO GM plants were improved, moved, or built in the making of the Karma.

yeah, and they still got the money!

I know, how freaking dumb is our government? The bar keeps getting lowered.
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Scrappy.. I'm not going to repeatedly correct you in two threads simultaneously.. but you really need to get your facts straight before you continually bash something. It just highlights your misunderstanding of the scenario.
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The bar keeps getting lowered.
There is certainly a bar being lowered lately...
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make no mistake, this was nothing WE as Americans got to decide. I am sure you know that. We did not move the plants anywhere. Fiskar decided to build them using Finnish plants. NO GM plants were improved, moved, or built in the making of the Karma.

yeah, and they still got the money!

I know, how freaking dumb is our government? The bar keeps getting lowered.
your gov is far from dumb, they are bought and paid for by the special interest, people vote but it means nothing, its just to make people think they have a choice in the matter, i would like to say its different down here but that would be a lie, albeit we dont have it as bad as you guys but its not much better either. if you want to look into your future, just check out the history of rome, your country seems hell bent to follow the same path.

on the side note this looks like another solyndra.

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Old 04-02-2012, 04:15 PM   #13
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Fisker has been saying the Nina is going to be a 5-series sized car at 3-series prices... and $10,000 cheaper than the Volt for basically the same functionality.
I find this hard to believe, but if they do and they keep the middle seat I will give them huge kudos. So you think they will sell it for $30k before tax credits. How big a battery? Then we can calculate the tax credit. If it maxed out the $7500 then it would be a $22.5k car. At that price they could be forgiven their poor efficiency if the performance was there. Of course I don't believe any of this will come to pass personally. I just can't see how they could do it.
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I'm sorry.. I can't find that quote about the Volt again.. I think they were talking about $40k before tax credits for the Nina. Do I think they will manage that? I have serious doubts.. but it's 'an' answer to the question regarding what they're trying to offer.
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I know, how freaking dumb is our government? The bar keeps getting lowered.
As does the bar of the average american, which in turn raises the bar on expectancy in the form of entitlement and results in lower bar's etc. Cyclical process. I can only hope the fact that antibacterial disinfectants are now basically useless will help to cull the meek.

I'm voting obama '12 simply just to ensure our country goes down the **** hole to engrave permanently that progressiveness doesn't work economically for the long-term.

Gm can move their plants wherever and Fisker can keep doing what it's doing. I want this to hit HARD.
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As does the bar of the average american, which in turn raises the bar on expectancy in the form of entitlement and results in lower bar's etc. Cyclical process. I can only hope the fact that antibacterial disinfectants are now basically useless will help to cull the meek.

I'm voting obama '12 simply just to ensure our country goes down the **** hole to engrave permanently that progressiveness doesn't work economically for the long-term.

Gm can move their plants wherever and Fisker can keep doing what it's doing. I want this to hit HARD.
obama or not , whom ever takes over next will continue the same path, you guys had one chance and that was ron paul but with with all the election fraud that looks like a lost cause ,wont be long before the us dollar is no longer the world reserve currency , you know the rest

btw you cant really blame the american people, its like training a dog to be aggressive and then getting pissed when he bites you, from the florid in your water to dumping down of kids in your every degrading schooling system the gov planed to turn people to depend on them like that, look at the third world countries, same exact model was implemented in your country after the perfected it over there

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btw you cant really blame the american people, its like training a dog to be aggressive and then getting pissed when he bites you, from the florid in your water to dumping down of kids in your every degrading schooling system the gov planed to turn people to depend on them like that, look at the third world countries, same exact model was implemented in your country after the perfected it over there
You're attempting to demonstrate irony, right?

Apparently you were educated by a teacher who stood outside the closed window of the nearest American classroom, then yelled the lessons back over the border.
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I'm sorry.. I can't find that quote about the Volt again.. I think they were talking about $40k before tax credits for the Nina. Do I think they will manage that? I have serious doubts.. but it's 'an' answer to the question regarding what they're trying to offer.
Sorry to all the political prognosticators, but this is actually about the topic.

So is the price is exactly the same as the Volt, but they call it $10k less for some reason? I admit it looks much prettier than the volt. Thus it is more desirable, however if their attempt with the Karma carries over then it will likely be pretty inefficient as well. Pretty and poorly engineered might be a good tradeoff for some people, but not others. Still 40k isn't bad if the vehicle was actually decent.
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You're attempting to demonstrate irony, right?

Apparently you were educated by a teacher who stood outside the closed window of the nearest American classroom, then yelled the lessons back over the border.
lol right, since i need to be there to know whats going on. it seems everyone else knows more about whats going on in your country then the actual American people.
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The Karma is a beautiful car. I saw it in person, definitely worth the price. The quality is up there with 7 series and S class.

Good buy, if they could make it more reliable.

This looks like a chop. ?.. is this real?
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The Karma is a beautiful car. I saw it in person, definitely worth the price. The quality is up there with 7 series and S class.
Really? I can't get over those diamond-shaped intakes at the bottom edges of the front end, let alone that split grille. But other than that, yeah, it looks pretty slick. (And yes, I have seen one in real life.)
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Really? I can't get over those diamond-shaped intakes at the bottom edges of the front end, let alone that split grille. But other than that, yeah, it looks pretty slick. (And yes, I have seen one in real life.)
That car has presence unlike any other sedan on the road though. I agree that I don't like some of the details but it's a car you notice when it pulls up. I barely even glance at a Bentley let alone an S-Class or 7. The only sedan that's close is a Rolls Royce IMO.
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make no mistake, this was nothing WE as Americans got to decide. I am sure you know that. We did not move the plants anywhere. Fiskar decided to build them using Finnish plants. NO GM plants were improved, moved, or built in the making of the Karma.

yeah, and they still got the money!

I know, how freaking dumb is our government? The bar keeps getting lowered.
They promised to use American workers and reopen the GM Boxwood plant in Wilmington DE. Nothing has happened there but demolition workers there told me. Thanks for the $530 million Obama, Biden and Al Gore. S U C K E R S
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They promised to use American workers and reopen the GM Boxwood plant in Wilmington DE. Nothing has happened there but demolition workers there told me. Thanks for the $530 million Obama, Biden and Al Gore. S U C K E R S
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That car has presence unlike any other sedan on the road though. I agree that I don't like some of the details but it's a car you notice when it pulls up. I barely even glance at a Bentley let alone an S-Class or 7. The only sedan that's close is a Rolls Royce IMO.
I agree that it certainly has a presence, but mostly because its front end is odd, plus its proportions are like a humongous coupe.
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