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Old 04-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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So after much searching and reading I'm about 95% sure my heads are lifting off the block on my 06 WRX. It's my dd and I need it fixed ASAP but I don't know any reputable shops in the Tri-Cities. Thinking of possibly having the bottom end built at the same time, but it depends on cost. If I get desperate enough I may consider towing it long distance but I'd rather not. Any ideas?
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Old 04-03-2012, 08:23 PM   #2
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Ouch...umm I would suggest taking it away from here personally. I did some checking around when i got my subie and no one seems to have worked on alot of subies outside the dealership (Mcurley's) which would cost you an arm and a leg. I personally have dealt with R+H garage in seattle and they were great and very knowlegable. Other options would include English Racing in Camas and Outback in seattle. Keep us updated with your decision and let us know how it went.

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Old 04-04-2012, 11:39 AM   #3
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I've had poor expiriences at McCurley. If I have problems, my car will get towed to Surgeline. If you want the block built you will need a tune anyway.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #4
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Yeah I only use McCurley for small oem parts. Most of the dealerships around here are insane. I just installed a fmic and was going to call on Monday to schedule a tune at English but then I had my lifting head issue. I'm highly considering Kaizenspeed as they have given me a very reasonable price for a rebuild using the AMS advanced rebuild kit, but I'm not sure. I never see Subies there, just DSMs, Hondas, 240s, and Evos. I have heard from people who have tuned there and then went somewhere else (usually English) with the same car and same mods and English squeezes in some cases 40hp/tq more out of it. Some cases they ran more smoothly as well. So if I could have it built there and tuned at English that would be most convenient, I just don't think they have much if any experience tuning Subarus. Opinions or experience with Kaizenspeed anyone? I'm kind of in a crunch as my wife's Volvo's brand new tranny just went out so we're currently car-less and I need to get my car in a shop pretty quickly. If I do go to Kaizenspeed I'll need to order the AMS kit tomorrow morning. Thanks for the replies!
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:33 AM   #5
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Don't go with ks there not subie guys. They focus on hondas and a quick turn profit. Friends have gone and were very unhappy.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:43 AM   #6
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I would Tow it out of town. PRE in portland or surgeline/cobb tunning also in portland. KS like everyone said is mostly a honda shop.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:42 AM   #7
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what kind of setup do have thats lifting the heads off the block.
Theres always maxwell power services. They have customers that bring cars up from oregon and cali and canada to get engines built. And they ship engines worldwide.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #8
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Currently have intake, exhaust, tgv deletes, 850cc injectors, FP Green, ewg, just installed a fmic,04 STI drivetrain swap, other stuff I'm surely forgetting. The guy I bought it from had it tuned I believe at Equilibrium Tuning in CA and it's making 333whp/327tq on 91 octane and 19-19.5psi. I had a Hallman mbc on it but have since removed it and am running a direct line turbo to wg. I was having wicked overboost problems and managed to track down a hole in the vacuum line just before the wg that was causing it but I work 50+ hours a week and go to school full time so I never had time to check it out and ran with the overboost for a while. I drive like a grandma 98% of the time but it was so big and inconsistent of a problem that I would sometimes rap out to 30psi just trying to pass someone on the highway only partial throttle. I bought a Grimmspeed 3 port ebcs and was going to install it right before the tune I was going to schedule on Monday to replace the Hallman because it didn't like the wicked weather changes here. So I was thinking those boost spikes may have just done it in. Talking to a couple shops they are agreeing it's either lifting heads or blown head gasket. Will be looking into PRE, Surgeline, and Maxwell Power. Other suggestions are appreciated. Anyone with a cheap way to tow it that far? I was probably going to see about borrowing a truck, renting a flatbed, and towing it myself but I'm not sure I could with my schedule. Thanks NWIC!
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #9
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LOL wow this is actually pretty funny, I recently bought my STI and had very simular setup with an almost exact same overboost issue (My leak was in the internal WG diaphram). I called around to alot of places and the only place that would see me on short notice was R+H Garage. They did a great job but I did end up replacing my Grimmspeed 3 port ebcs they installed with a mbc to get rid of some wastegate flutter (harmless just annoying). I called english and surgline and left messages and I actually never got a call back from either of them. I'm sure they both do great work though. Im sure you want to get a tune after you are done with this rebuild so I would pick the place you want to tune at. Surgeline is all Access Port tuning, English said they can do AP or open source, and R+H has Kito from KitoAutosports do open source tuning. All 3 have a mustang dyno. As far as towing it somewhere, if you dont have access to a flatbed or something, renting a car trailer from U-Haul is probably your best bet. You only have to get it for one-way as you will probably drop it off somewhere near the location your car is getting worked on.


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What is your wastegate spring pressure? (Reason I ask is the EBCS can only hold about 1.5x spring pressure without fluttering. Which was my issue and could be something you need to address before attaching the Ebcs.)

For comparison sake here is my setup:
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TUNE: 330Whp and 343tq on 92 oct @ 21 psi (conservative tune, no knocks, my DD)

Our cars are extrememly comparable and would love to see your beast when you get it running. We have a subaru club here in Tri Cities that meets every thursday. Search Facebook groups for tri city subaru club and ask for an invite.

Also Side note, guys in my club see your car in richland and think its me all the time.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #10
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Spring pressure is 15psi. Searching for the club right now, thanks. If it's in Richland that probably is me. I think my buddy saw you in West Richland at Subway the other day. I don't think I've ever seen an AW 06-07 with a front mount. I'd definitely like to check yours out too.

I'm getting a quote from Simmonson in Pasco right now. They're doing my wife's Volvo tranny right now and have done a lot of high quality work on my buddy's Jag. Another buddy has an auto WRX with an STI block that tore up the tranny so they put in a built one and it's still running like a champ. They say they specialize in Subaru, Mitsubishi, Mazerati, Lambos, Ferraris, plus a bunch of other Euro imports so I figure they have a good idea what they're doing. I was probably going to drive it over to English after the build but still undecided. I just really don't have time in my schedule to take it out of town so I'm trying avoid it if at all possible. I can much more easily fit in driving over for a tune and driving back the same day, but a tow would be more difficult.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:29 PM   #11
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Ya you will be right at/below the limit if you stay at 19 psi could still have flutter but its worth installing the EBCS since you bought it, its easy to bypass with a mbc if it flutters like mine did haha. Ya join the club, the meets are fun and we will be doing alot of cruises/bbqs throughout the year.

We actually have another guy in our club that has a grey 06 TR that has a front mount/upgraded turbo thats running 300whp-ish he would probably love to see your car too.

Never heard of Simmonson but they sound legit. Keep us up to date on the progress, it would be good news if we have a good local subie shop.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:43 AM   #12
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Sorry to bump this but where do you guys meet on thursdays?
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:04 AM   #13
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Sonic on Road 68. I think it's always at 7pm. I haven't gone to one yet since mine is still in the shop.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:22 AM   #14
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Awesome. Really close. Well get your car fixed man!
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #15
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Just an update for any interested parties, I did go with Simmonson and am going to take it over to English for a tune after it's done. I should be getting it back this week but so far the service has been outstanding. It's taking longer than expected but I would rather they take more time and do it right than throw it together and it blow up later. The owner of the shop is the one who is personally doing the rebuild so that makes me feel better about it too. I'll update again when it's completed.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:14 PM   #16
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Awesome man really excited to see it! You planning on doing any autox?
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:11 AM   #17
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I had toyed with the idea. It seemed way more intimidating in my mind but then I saw your video and it is a whole lot less daunting now. I'd like to go at least once before the season is up. I will be hitting Renegade for sure more than once.
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:19 PM   #18
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Yo Kyler, Might be early but you should post a review on Simmonson Automotive in the vendor/shop review section.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:40 PM   #19
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Word. I'm going to wait until after I take it to English and they give it the once over. But for now anyone thinking of having anything extensive done there, don't. Took me over 3 months to get my car back and it's running like balls. I have yet to determine if it's due to lack of equipment/education for tuning or if they really did that poor of a job. I'd like to think it's the prior but at this point only a real tuner could tell.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:56 PM   #20
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Word. I'm going to wait until after I take it to English and they give it the once over. But for now anyone thinking of having anything extensive done there, don't. Took me over 3 months to get my car back and it's running like balls. I have yet to determine if it's due to lack of equipment/education for tuning or if they really did that poor of a job. I'd like to think it's the prior but at this point only a real tuner could tell.
Thought I'd scroll to a happy ending .
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Old 07-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #21
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You and me both. Seeing the cars and repeat business he had in there I have no doubt that the assembly of the motor is top notch, I just think the tuning side of it seemed to be out of their realm of experience and their time management seemed to be a major issue they needed to work on. On the flip side they did a wonderful job rebuilding the tranny in my wife's Volvo.
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:34 PM   #22
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Hey Kyler, I was about to PM you for an update on your subie and came across your thread. I'm hoping your tuning is just off. When you taking it to english for a tune? If you had a tactrix cable, you could post your rom and we could tell alot about whats going on with it. What are the symtoms? What boost / afr ratio are you seeing? I might be moving back up that way, will know next week.

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Old 07-28-2012, 03:14 PM   #23
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I'll be taking it to English within the next couple of weeks. I have to wait for more expendable cash to come in. Yeah I've been thinking of getting a tactrix cable just for these such occasions. I'm not sure my afrs because I sent off the gauge to Innovate for repair and it came back while my car was in the shop and I haven't had the time (or equipment) to hook it up yet. I do know they're SUPER rich though, I have soot all over my back bumper after driving it maybe four times, I can see the gas evaporating while I'm running at idle, and when I get out of my car I smell like gas. I also have a misfire cel I'm going to have to figure out that they couldn't. Pressure test was good, smoke leak test was good, spark plugs are supposedly gapped correctly (I'm going to re-check), they replaced one of the coil packs that were supposedly bad and that only fixed it for a little while, they had the fuel injectors cleaned and flow tested and that only worked for a little while as well, and I cleaned off my maf.

Derek keep me updated on if you're moving back up. You get another Subie yet?
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:52 PM   #24
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I am surprised to hear anything on the injectors, they only had about 1000 miles on them when you got the car after having them sent to deatchwerks for cleaning and flow testing.

If I were in your position, I would get a tactrix cable and then call English and ask for a safe limp map for your mods and load it to the ecm then drive it easy till you can get in for a full protune.

With your new fmic setup, did you have to swap out the APS? Guessing probably so which would means that the maf scaling could be way off. Is the idle fluctuating when just sitting there? The tactrix would also allow you to see the fuel trim which would show boost or vacuum leaks that is usefull in addition to the mechanical testing you did.

I am looking at a 07 2.5i with a full STi swap on Monday, has a blown head gasket, but the car is great shape and everything from the swap came out of a 07 STi. I'll probably drop in a oem shortblock and change out the pistons and rings with CP stuff if I am able to buy it from the guy. Pretty safe to 400whp going this route and not to expensive.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:55 PM   #25
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I honestly don't think there was anything wrong with the injectors I think they just got to the point that they were shooting in the dark. No I kept the APS, it was a super tight fit and they ended up having a custom pipe made to get it fit, but I'm still rolling the 70mm. I was thinking of switching to Equilibrium Tuning's piping kit though which I would have to remove the APS for. It waivers a little bit at idle, more so after I've driven on the highway for a while then come back to idle. I'm sure something did happen to the tune because it's running like my buddy's built motor untuned Talon.

Getting that 07 would save a lot on insurance lol!
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