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Old 07-27-2012, 05:38 PM   #26
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my first 2500 miles went through 1 quart of oil. changed oil and havent seen much of a drop since then.

i've read many going through the same instance and suspect it to be normal.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:52 PM   #27
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I am having the same problem.

After the first changing the oil at 5000km, Syntech 5W40, I had my low oil light come on after ~3000km. Thinking that the 5W40 was the culprit, I drained and put in Mobil 1 0W20. Now, less than 1000km later, the bloody light's come on again.

The weirdest thing is, BOTH times, the dip-stick reads nominal oil levels. I have some serious reservations about the reliability of the low-level oil sensor in the 2012 Imprezas.

I also own a 2006 Impreza which hasn't burnt a drop of oil since bought new. I really hope this isn't an indication of Subaru's deteriorating quality.

If anyone has any updates on their experience with this, please post ASAP!

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Why would you think putting an even thinner oil in would help?

If anything these motors like the thick stuff.

And again, oil consumption is pretty normal. Your manual should state checking oil every gas fill up.....
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:22 PM   #28
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I don't know if that's normal. I have a 2012 wrx. I went 7000 miles and not a drop low, and I drive it hard on occasion
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:34 PM   #29
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I don't know if that's normal. I have a 2012 wrx. I went 7000 miles and not a drop low, and I drive it hard on occasion
Not the same engine anymore
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:03 AM   #30
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Hmm subbing. No oil consumption on mine but my mom is looking at a new impreza.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:07 AM   #31
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Not the same engine anymore
Ah yea I keep forgetting about that...
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:45 PM   #32
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Why would you think putting an even thinner oil in would help?

If anything these motors like the thick stuff.

And again, oil consumption is pretty normal. Your manual should state checking oil every gas fill up.....

I thought the same thing. Burning oil? Switch to thinner oil!
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:02 PM   #33
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Why would you think putting an even thinner oil in would help?

If anything these motors like the thick stuff.

And again, oil consumption is pretty normal. Your manual should state checking oil every gas fill up.....
Thanks for all the feedback and questions.

The 2012 manual calls for 0W20 and I figure, perhaps the sensor is somehow tuned only for thin oil. Apparently not so since it seems to come on regardless of viscosity. This leads me to believe either a) my engine really IS burning oil at a vicious rate, or b) the sensor is faulty.

Does anyone else have any idea or have had their 2012 Impreza undergo similar issues? Has anyone out there approached their stealership about it yet? What does Subaru say about this?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #34
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Hi,
as mentioned in my earlier post a few months back; at around 3200km (around 2000 miles) - my oil low-level warning lit up. I checked and there was not even a single drop of oil on the gage.
I was driving and I was near my stealership - went in; they told me everything was normal - that the "manual recommends" checking oil every 3000 km , etc. THey filled me up + gave me a bottle to go since I complained a bit.

Two weeks back, driving back from the The Wall show in quebec city - my low oil warning lit up again. Surprinsgly enough, i was at 6600km (4000 miles.) I parked and checked - again not a single drop showing up on the bottom of the gage. Thankfully I had the bottle of 0w20 in my trunk. Put it all in. TOok 100km for the !#@$ light to disappear. (I checked my oil level once arrived again and it was showing up as full. so it really needed another pint after another 3000km...)

Rung up the stealership where I was greeted as if I was really a pr*ck complaining for nothing. Again they told me it was "normal" and that the manual recommend to CHECK (**read: not put in a bloody pint of oil) every 3000km. I couldn't care less - told him my previous impreza never drank a single drop of oil.

Anyways - at my 10,000km maintenance they will do a "oil consumption test". Turns out they fill up the oil level, and check the level every 2000 km... (woohoo, what a thorough and scientific "test" - as if the fact that I had to put in TWO PINTS of oil in after 6000km was not a clear sign that something's wrong...)

Rung up subaru Canada (left a VM) - nobody called me back.

I can't f*ing wait to cross the 10 000 clicks mark so I can bring it in and have the "test" done.

I'll keep you guys posted.


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I noticed in the various forums/posts that most of the new 2012 subies took a pint of oil in their first 2000 miles; but I haven't seen anybody mention they had to put in another pint at 4000 miles.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:45 PM   #35
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Hi All,

Just like dkbono, my stealership has now done an oil change for me at 10000km and will be conducting a consumption test for me. They claim I'm the only case they've had, but I have my doubts.

Will keep everyone updated on the results; I'm really hoping Subaru Canada will treat this issue seriously to keep their customers happy. I only bought another Subie because I've been so impressed with my 2006 Impreza.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:47 PM   #36
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Majority of new engines will burn or consume oil for the first 3000 miles. Have you followed the break in procedure as suggested by your owners manual.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:37 PM   #37
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Just as I posted in another thread on the same subject - I have spoken with a friend's friend (I spoke with him directly though, not through my friend) who's a head tech at a local stealership here.

He was very adamant I didn't mention he said it (yeaht that's one of those "I'm telling you but I haven't told you" kinda thing)

He confirms the new engines oil consumption is apalling, and hits EACH AND EVERY single car that has the new 2.0L in it.

Subaru Canada (and higher) are well aware and apparently trying to decide what to do. Even though there's not a good solution yet (they've tried changing oil grade, chaing rings, and even an engine swap) it's clear the game is much more Political than mechanical. Hence their prudence on words going out.

I just find it quite bull****ty to lie to our faces about it.
Also - I find it really odd that nobody from Subaru has chimed in on it here in this forum - it's not like they're not monitoring them...

Anyways, my friend mechanic recommends checking oil level every 1000km's, and keep a litre of 0w20 in your car (since it's not something you find at any petrol station).

When the low level oil lights up - it means you're actually 1.2 - 1.4 litres down.

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I'm f*ing glad I rented it rather than bought it, as I'm pretty sure the resale value of the 2012 will be around the same of a 1989 tercel.

What does it take to break a lease contract ?
I mean, I'd much rather go to a 2011 now and I'm looking for a painless/non-expensive way.
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:27 PM   #38
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Hopefully the issue will be addressed under warranty, but try to stay away from Mobil. See if your local store sells or favorite online suppliers can get u Castrol or Shell Rotella in required viscosity range for your engine/driving conditions.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:26 AM   #39
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Hi gang,

New guy here but I have the same problem as DJbono. Mine is actually a little worst. At 6500km, not only did my light go on, but there was no oil on the dipstick. Waited the right amount of time checked it again at gas station on level ground, still no oil. Bought oil, filed it right back up to the full mark and off we went (my wife and our 5 month old - you can imagine...http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/imag...es/furious.gif We replaced a 04 Impreza TS for a more reliable car (...no comment). Back to my story...drove about 100km, checked the oil again and to my surprise, there was an extra 3.5 litres (the 3.5 litres my car needed to fill the oil back to full). My car didn't burn oil, it's like if the oil never came back down to the oil pan. Called the dealer. They said things were fine. Now at 17500kms. The oil light has come on twice since, car is burning oil like everyone else. Waiting on dealership for answers and some form of compensation.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:28 PM   #40
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We're exactly in the same boat - I have a 5 months old little daughter

I never witness the oil level come up; but yeah, me each time the oil warning lit, there was absolutely NO oil on the dipstick.

It lit up at 3400km, then 6600km and then just recently at 9000km.
Each time I added rougly a Liter, and the light took it sweet jesus time to shut down (I assume there's a quicker/reset way but I don't know of it)

Anyhow, I had time to waste so I went to my stealership here on the south shore of montreal earlier this week. They now at least have the decency to acknowledge that they are oil-thirsthy - but that until it's consumption is more than 1L/2000km it's ok and they won't do **** about it.

I'm being told by mechanic friends that such a behaviour should disappear after 25 000km... but I strongly doubt it.

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My parent's neighbhour has a 2012 CVT - he says to his knowledge it doesn.t eat up oil - light never came up. BUT he had his first maintenance done at 5k km... (he now is only at 12kkm I think)
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:15 PM   #41
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Is this the same engine as the BRZ/FRS? We're having issues with the FRS's using oil.. Toyota wants us to start doing consumption tests...
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:39 PM   #42
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So you just dumped in a quart without actually checking the oil? I may have been 2.5 quarts low. Did you ever check the oil? How do you know it was full when you took possession?
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So you just dumped in a quart without actually checking the oil? I may have been 2.5 quarts low. Did you ever check the oil? How do you know it was full when you took possession?
Who is this directed to ?
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Who is this directed to ?
Really anyone that sees excessive consumption early in the life of the engine. Trust but verify. It is possible that a car was delivered with low oil.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:28 PM   #45
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ok understood & sound advice.
THough in my case, I had to fill it up twice meself so...
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:17 PM   #46
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Thanks for all the feedback and questions.

The 2012 manual calls for 0W20 and I figure, perhaps the sensor is somehow tuned only for thin oil. Apparently not so since it seems to come on regardless of viscosity. This leads me to believe either a) my engine really IS burning oil at a vicious rate, or b) the sensor is faulty.

Does anyone else have any idea or have had their 2012 Impreza undergo similar issues? Has anyone out there approached their stealership about it yet? What does Subaru say about this?

Thanks in advance!
I can pretty much promise you that IT ISNT A SENSOR. If it were a sensor, where's the oil going, then? My engine slowly and steadily burns oil. I've watched the dipstick on four oil changes now, and it gets lower as the miles rack up, so I have to ''top off" my oil about every 2000mi.
What does Subaru say? Nothing good, I'm afraid. The car must burn more than a quart every 1200 miles for Subaru to take action, its in the owners manual!
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:20 PM   #47
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Is this the same engine as the BRZ/FRS? We're having issues with the FRS's using oil.. Toyota wants us to start doing consumption tests...
According to the Toyota and BRZ manual, THOSE cars can ACCEPTABLY burn 1.1 quarts every 600mi!!!!

I'm very interested to see what these higher-hp, higher compression FA's do in terms of oil consumption. PLEASE POST ANY INFO YOU CAN!! THANKS!!!!
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Just as I posted in another thread on the same subject - I have spoken with a friend's friend (I spoke with him directly though, not through my friend) who's a head tech at a local stealership here.

He was very adamant I didn't mention he said it (yeaht that's one of those "I'm telling you but I haven't told you" kinda thing)

He confirms the new engines oil consumption is apalling, and hits EACH AND EVERY single car that has the new 2.0L in it.

Subaru Canada (and higher) are well aware and apparently trying to decide what to do. Even though there's not a good solution yet (they've tried changing oil grade, chaing rings, and even an engine swap) it's clear the game is much more Political than mechanical. Hence their prudence on words going out.

I just find it quite bull****ty to lie to our faces about it.
Also - I find it really odd that nobody from Subaru has chimed in on it here in this forum - it's not like they're not monitoring them...

Anyways, my friend mechanic recommends checking oil level every 1000km's, and keep a litre of 0w20 in your car (since it's not something you find at any petrol station).

When the low level oil lights up - it means you're actually 1.2 - 1.4 litres down.

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I'm f*ing glad I rented it rather than bought it, as I'm pretty sure the resale value of the 2012 will be around the same of a 1989 tercel.

What does it take to break a lease contract ?
I mean, I'd much rather go to a 2011 now and I'm looking for a painless/non-expensive way.
Looks like we're all in the same boat! all we can do is be as LOUD as we can. My dealership chimes in on these forums, theyre awesome people.
But getting SUBARU to talk about oil is like asking for free food in a chinese restaurant.
If my car is any indication of where Subaru is headed, then the image of such a reliable brand will be lost.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:37 AM   #49
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Hi All,

An update. My low-level oil light came on again 2000km after the "official" oil change done at my stearlership. Took it in to the stealership this morning and they topped it up, recording volume and mileage. They will continue my "oil consumption analysis" until the next official oil-change.

Same story from the Service Manager there, indicating that unless the car burns more than 1 liter / 2000km, Subaru will do nothing about it. He also indicated that he's not had any other 2012 Impreza coming in with this problem. But then also indicated that Subaru is aware that the low-oil level light is coming on "too soon" on the 2012 engines.

I also took photos of the dipstick levels from the last oil change and at every 1000km; I encourage all of you to do the same to that we can accumulate sufficient evidence to bring forward to Subaru to demand action. I've built up a healthy loyalty to the Subaru brand (a proud owner of a 2006 Impreza that burns NO OIL at all!), I just hope that it hasn't been misplaced.

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Same, lit up for the third time (before any service) yesterday. I was off and clsoe to the stealership so brought it in, it was at 9300km so they did my first service.

THey mentioned that they followed an oil leak that seem to stem out of my oil-level sensor (though I haven't seen any oil spots anywhere I park)

THey've started a cunsomption test so will have to go there every 2000km...

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The service mgr refused to acknowledge that there were "many" other 2012 exhibiting the same problem; however one of the service clerks did...
So clearly, bull**** is in the air.
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