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Old 05-09-2012, 09:06 PM   #26
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #27
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So today I rotated the camber plates, with the bolts in the GC holes, set them in the max negative position (which is actually the second hole), and gained .8* of caster. (Currently 3.8, previously 3.0)

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Old 05-10-2012, 02:49 AM   #28
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Needs more caster.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:55 AM   #29
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ST are great but you need to maintain them more since they are a galvanized body which can rust. not like KW which are a stainless housing . the ST coilovers are great and are the same as a KW V1 besides the housing and a 5 year warranty. but you get for what you pay for all in all they are a great coilover but just make sure you keep an eye out on the housings. good choice though
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:57 AM   #30
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also with the 1500 bucks you had you could have bought some KW V1s and have a life time warranty and say you are running KWs lol
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:24 AM   #31
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ST are great but you need to maintain them more since they are a galvanized body which can rust. not like KW which are a stainless housing . the ST coilovers are great and are the same as a KW V1 besides the housing and a 5 year warranty. but you get for what you pay for all in all they are a great coilover but just make sure you keep an eye out on the housings. good choice though
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also with the 1500 bucks you had you could have bought some KW V1s and have a life time warranty and say you are running KWs lol
Stainless steel is not impervious to rust. It's rust resistant.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:03 AM   #32
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also with the 1500 bucks you had you could have bought some KW V1s and have a life time warranty and say you are running KWs lol
And where would you get the tops from?
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:13 AM   #33
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Needs more caster.
I had Spec-C arms I was hoping of getting installed with the Lower Control Arm recall, but they decided my control arms were fine and just coated them. I definitely did not have the motivation to install those myself..Ive had a total of 4 weld nuts snap off inside my body already from the U brace and rear tie downs.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:47 PM   #34
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Stainless steel is not impervious to rust. It's rust resistant.

they will not rust like the ST if you do not keep them clean and maintained.
and you will have to get a rear conversion for a linear spring. i have V3s on my car and they feel great with the progressive spring. but that is my opinion. just sayin with your budget you could have got a set of V1s
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Youre missing the point where $1500 would not get you KWv1s with $450 worth of Tops.
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Now someone correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the only difference between the V1 and V3 is the adjustability and the external Res. Other than that the the springs and such are identical.

Now if I am correct then Bmxsauce, you and vision have the same rates.

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they will not rust like the ST if you do not keep them clean and maintained.
and you will have to get a rear conversion for a linear spring. i have V3s on my car and they feel great with the progressive spring. but that is my opinion. just sayin with your budget you could have got a set of V1s
Now, with that said, I don't understand this hard-on you have for nit picking Visions choice of coilovers...Yes he could have grabbed a set of V1's for that price but he would not have gotten the DMS fronts and GrpN rears.

You re-used your rubber tops which quite frankly makes Visions setup better in IMO. And why does he need to convert his rear spring to linear?
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #37
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Any updates? Have you taken this setup to the track/Autocross yet?
I was set on a KW V1 setup but living on the west coast rust isn't an issue and your post is making me wonder if ST with Whiteline Com c or group n top hats might be better bang for my buck!
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2 days at the track this weekend!
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:26 AM   #39
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Bumpdates?

This may be my next suspension pickup.
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Old 06-12-2012, 04:28 AM   #40
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2 HPDEs, 3 instructors, holding up well. Every instructor has expressed how well the car grips and turns. Ride is still comfortable.

Ive developed a metal on metal grinding noise in the front when turning the wheel at low speed, consistent with what Ive experienced in the past with failed bearings in the Camber Plates. This is something I need to work with TiC to figure out further.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:12 AM   #41
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Now someone correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the only difference between the V1 and V3 is the adjustability and the external Res. Other than that the the springs and such are identical.

Now if I am correct then Bmxsauce, you and vision have the same rates.



Now, with that said, I don't understand this hard-on you have for nit picking Visions choice of coilovers...Yes he could have grabbed a set of V1's for that price but he would not have gotten the DMS fronts and GrpN rears.

You re-used your rubber tops which quite frankly makes Visions setup better in IMO. And why does he need to convert his rear spring to linear?

there is still a huge difference ... st has a 5 year warranty not like KWs lifetime warranty. yes all spring rates are the same. which i never said one thing about.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:57 PM   #43
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I just picked up a Saabaru and I'm in the same boat so many of you are - want to lower the car, don't want to ruin it, not going to be doing time attack or autocross or anything, cuz I have an Evo for that.

And the ST setup is on my list.

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Old 06-15-2012, 07:11 PM   #44
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Seriously considering these. Seem like a budget friendly way to go
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:51 PM   #45
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Maybe even convert the rear spring to a linear one and still under $ 1,500
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Theres not really much reason to switch the rear to linear. I was paid for some labor with the parts to do the conversion, but dont really feel the need to.
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I thought having the linear rear was one of the reasons the rce tarmacs were supposed to be better
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:33 PM   #48
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You just have to weigh the pros and cons. It's slightly more predictable, but is that worth the $300-400 for the springs and perches? Remember you can't use oem style tops anymore either.
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I just picked up a Saabaru and I'm in the same boat so many of you are - want to lower the car, don't want to ruin it, not going to be doing time attack or autocross or anything, cuz I have an Evo for that.

And the ST setup is on my list.


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I thought having the linear rear was one of the reasons the rce tarmacs were supposed to be better
Intended to be better for track use as a linear spring is more predictable, as noted below. If you want the absolute best performance from them it would be in your best interest to upgrade to a linear spring. But then if you're going for max performance you're probably going to pick something with adjustable damping and most of those come with linear springs front and rear.

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You just have to weigh the pros and cons. It's slightly more predictable, but is that worth the $300-400 for the springs and perches? Remember you can't use oem style tops anymore either.
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How do you think these would perform with a stock (new) or group n top?
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