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Old 09-20-2012, 12:36 AM   #501
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:10 AM   #502
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I absolutely love Kevin's Impreza.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:46 AM   #503
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:23 PM   #504
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Wrb ftw easyE that car has won me over to the dark side along with vaders sti .

My racecomp 2 are going on the chopping block ASAP to put a good chunk on a air setup the ease of being low on a whim and clearing speed bumps and hoists has broken me .

Thanks for the great thread everyone also I didn't realized that the newer bag setups had a coil strut setup till I seen the airlift video I thought air was for show only .

Keep it comming with the photos .

Only thing missing in actual pictures of the tank installs and the actual air setup installed .

And clearance with the bags compared to a coil over .

I am running 18x10 + 30 works and am real close on the fronts and am thinking I would need spacers.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:13 PM   #505
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And clearance with the bags compared to a coil over .

I am running 18x10 + 30 works and am real close on the fronts and am thinking I would need spacers.

I'm rocking the Airlift 08+ prototype kit and love it. I'm still working to finalize the trunk the way I want it, but as far as clearance goes...I have 8.5et44 all around with tons of room in the rear and the front have a little bit of space. There are two things to keep in mind here. 1. your 10et30 will have only 5mm less inner clearance and 2. the strut bodies are threaded allowing for you to move the bag up or down to make clearance should you need it. The worst case would be that you run a 5mm or smaller spacer.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:45 PM   #506
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:45 PM   #507
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^^ Love that car

Here is a pic of my unfinished trunk which I hope to have done soon.

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Old 09-23-2012, 05:47 AM   #508
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Anyone get the pricing on that kit I don't like waiting .
Still waiting on a pm and email back from another company .

Ps the wrb on blue is awsome those evilchargerfans old wheels ?
Nice what size and offset

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Old 09-23-2012, 02:42 PM   #509
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Only thing missing in actual pictures of the tank installs and the actual air setup installed .
For a very detailed installation overview, you can check out my build thread on Air Society : http://www.airsociety.net/forums/sho...ld!?highlight=

Recently, I redid my management from what was shown in that thread to what you see here:


I will be either updating the Air Society thread, or making a new thread to document this process.

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Anyone get the pricing on that kit
Shot you a PM - we've got the best prices on the market. 100% Guaranteed.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:05 PM   #510
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For a very detailed installation overview, you can check out my build thread on Air Society : http://www.airsociety.net/forums/sho...ld!?highlight=

Recently, I redid my management from what was shown in that thread to what you see here:


I will be either updating the Air Society thread, or making a new thread to document this process.



Shot you a PM - we've got the best prices on the market. 100% Guaranteed.
Guess I found my new vendor .got the pm and got a buyer for my coilovers.
I want the setup as seen in your picture but wrb mounts and the E level kit as we talked about and I am thinking of airlift .unless there is testing like airlifts kits on the others I can't find .

I need more low on demand

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Old 09-23-2012, 09:09 PM   #511
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Has anyone hooked up the Accuride height sensors? can you show pics as to where you mounted them.
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:36 PM   #512
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Has anyone hooked up the Accuride height sensors? can you show pics as to where you mounted them.
From my understanding, they're very difficult to install correctly.
I'm sure the Bag Riders guys could chime in and help.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:16 PM   #513
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but hows the ride on air suspension?
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:30 PM   #514
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Has anyone hooked up the Accuride height sensors? can you show pics as to where you mounted them.
I have a video demonstrating how I installed my sensors, I'd be happy to share it with you! It's a private YouTube link, just shoot me a PM (or e-mail john@bagriders.com) - I'd be glad to shoot it your way! The sensors aren't exactly "difficult" per-se, rather you just need to be careful and take your time (as with any proper mod install). There is no taking shortcuts with height sensor installation, it's all about being careful and making sure you do it right!


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From my understanding, they're very difficult to install correctly.
I'm sure the Bag Riders guys could chime in and help.
Thanks bud You gonna be at H2Oi by any chance?

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but hows the ride on air suspension?
Very good, in my opinion - comparable to a set of high end coilovers. If you're interested in going low, air ride is absolutely a great way to go. The fact that you can define your own spring rate without the hassle of removing coil springs and purchasing new ones is just awesome. Considering how many folks that want to go low simply buy a cheap set of coilovers and thread them way down... well the ride quality with air suspension absolutely dominates that in comparison Air Lift struts have application specific valving and are built off BC coils, they ride awesome! Being fully threaded and dampening adjustable, you literally get the benefits of a coil over with the ability to raise your ride height at any time!

You can really make air struts as stiff or soft as you like, don't be fooled by those that say "air suspension rides like a boat". This is a common misunderstanding which stems from the days of 4-valve systems found in Cadillac's and other luxury town cars. In a 4-valve system, air can transfer between springs while you corner resulting in cross loading and severe body roll due your front and rear bags are connected together via a "Tee" fitting. Modern, performance oriented air suspension systems incorporate 8 valves, isolating each air spring's pressure (i.e. spring rate), which improves ride quality and handling immensely.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:57 AM   #515
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Thanks bud You gonna be at H2Oi by any chance?



Very good, in my opinion - comparable to a set of high end coilovers. If you're interested in going low, air ride is absolutely a great way to go. The fact that you can define your own spring rate without the hassle of removing coil springs and purchasing new ones is just awesome. Considering how many folks that want to go low simply buy a cheap set of coilovers and thread them way down... well the ride quality with air suspension absolutely dominates that in comparison Air Lift struts have application specific valving and are built off BC coils, they ride awesome! Being fully threaded and dampening adjustable, you literally get the benefits of a coil over with the ability to raise your ride height at any time!

You can really make air struts as stiff or soft as you like, don't be fooled by those that say "air suspension rides like a boat". This is a common misunderstanding which stems from the days of 4-valve systems found in Cadillac's and other luxury town cars. In a 4-valve system, air can transfer between springs while you corner resulting in cross loading and severe body roll due your front and rear bags are connected together via a "Tee" fitting. Modern, performance oriented air suspension systems incorporate 8 valves, isolating each air spring's pressure (i.e. spring rate), which improves ride quality and handling immensely.
I couldn't have said that better myself!
From my personal experience, I came from a set of Megan Coilovers, spun all the way down, with the spring drooped, full stiff. On my current bag setup, I can still adjust the ride height like on a normal coilover. I spun it down so that my "riding" height is a psi that is comfortable for me, psi pressure sort of takes the place of spring rates. Also, my dampening is only set to 3/4th (I prefer a stiffer ride to begin with) and it rides MUCHHHH more comfortably while not putting as much stress on the suspension by being bottomed out and spun all the way down.

John, I'm not gonna be able to make it.
I wanted to go SO BAD, but work, and the fact that I'm redoing my fenders and my car is in pieces is kind of keeping me from making it up there.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:16 AM   #516
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Well I am one step closer to bagged goodness

Tarmac 2 coils lined up a sale bam

Now I just need some baggage pricing

Now to decide if I am selling my work s1r to get lower offset and 11" s1r again or ?
Hmmmmmmmmm I think waiting could be a good Option so I can see what I can get away with before I sell them spacing wise on the bags .


Anyone got links to any videos of the air system in action ?
And how loud are the compressors ?
I have 130 sq feet of b-quiet sound deadener that should help Alot .
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:22 PM   #517
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not gonna lie....was never much into lowered cars. I guess living in AK we have a lot of snow most of the time...but after seeing all of your guys/gals rides I am dead set on air bags. Being able to adjust ride height with the flip of a switch is awesome. Some of the most amazing suby's I have ever seen are in this thread.

Awesome rides people
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #518
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John, I'm not gonna be able to make it.
I wanted to go SO BAD, but work, and the fact that I'm redoing my fenders and my car is in pieces is kind of keeping me from making it up there.
Ah bummer man, but hey - always better to go to big shows with a more "finished" project in my opinion. Euro mindset


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Anyone got links to any videos of the air system in action ?
And how loud are the compressors ?
I have 130 sq feet of b-quiet sound deadener that should help Alot .
Working with you via PM. I have a couple videos that need processing demonstrating the difference in compressor dB output with and without the AccuAir EXO Mount System. When I first installed my setup, I had (1) 400c compressor mounted directly to the chassis in the spare tire compartment, which is a very bad idea. I used our 5D MkII and a couple condenser mic's to capture the output of the compressors while they are running. Since redoing my trunk setup, I now need to make part two of the video and put together the comparison edit. We're incredibly busy right now so this project is on the back burner, but I'd be happy to provide an iPhone video from my driver seat to give you a general idea about compressor noise.

As far as Air Ride in action, Air Lift Performance has pushed out a few videos showing their 550whp '05 STi. Keep in mind that they're a suspension manufacturing company, not a film studio


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not gonna lie....was never much into lowered cars. I guess living in AK we have a lot of snow most of the time...but after seeing all of your guys/gals rides I am dead set on air bags. Being able to adjust ride height with the flip of a switch is awesome. Some of the most amazing suby's I have ever seen are in this thread.

Awesome rides people
Thanks for the kind words! We're located in VT so I can relate on the snow front. Air Ride is definitely awesome for year round, practical and comfortable suspension!
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:53 PM   #519
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Thanks for the kind words! We're located in VT so I can relate on the snow front. Air Ride is definitely awesome for year round, practical and comfortable suspension!
I see people talking about heat and it effecting the bags and what not. But what about the cold? I mean we see -65* here in the dead of winter.... Granted I wouldn't be making any adjustments what so ever, but do you think the bags would even hold? Coil overs and regular struts seem to hold up for the most part..... Just kind of curious how cold people have actually used this type of set up in. Gotta love the cold.....
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:28 AM   #520
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I see people talking about heat and it effecting the bags and what not. But what about the cold? I mean we see -65* here in the dead of winter.... Granted I wouldn't be making any adjustments what so ever, but do you think the bags would even hold? Coil overs and regular struts seem to hold up for the most part..... Just kind of curious how cold people have actually used this type of set up in. Gotta love the cold.....
I've seen the Airlift facility and where they do the testing on their products. They do have a rather extensive product testing program which will put the bags through the extreme cold. I can't tell you the exact numbers off hand, but it would represent very closely the temperatures you'd see in Alaska.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:26 AM   #521
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Thoughts on the -65

I can't see there being issues with the actual product in the cold .
The issues are always the same with air systems in the cold .
First freezing or air lines due to moisture in the system .
In our trucks in northern bc at -50 you have issues and they have air dryers and brake line antifreeze pots inline we just don't shut them off under -35.

I Would Not commend running a suspention like that at -65 hmmm I wouldn't even go out the door of the house in winter gear .

And if the car is garaged and then outside during those cold times that can cause condensation .

I would run stock suspention in that extreme conditions .

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #522
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:09 PM   #523
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I see people talking about heat and it effecting the bags and what not. But what about the cold? I mean we see -65* here in the dead of winter.... Granted I wouldn't be making any adjustments what so ever, but do you think the bags would even hold? Coil overs and regular struts seem to hold up for the most part..... Just kind of curious how cold people have actually used this type of set up in. Gotta love the cold.....
We actually have quite a few customers up in Alaska! I haven't heard any problems at all. The rubber on the Air Lift bags is made by Goodyear (last I checked), so if you trust driving around on your tires, you can put the same faith in the air bag To prevent condensation from freezing up your lines and valves, we always put a bit of air brake anti-freeze in our tanks right when the weather starts to get chilly. This, combined with the warm air produced by compressors keeps our systems running perfectly despite the cold.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:10 PM   #524
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In for more pics and less idiots.

PEOPLE OF NASIOC,

Most of these kits that are being used on these cars ride and have many of the same characteristics as coilovers. The biggest difference is that they can put their cars on the ground on command. Please quit complaining and being grumpy and go somewhere else.

Tanks.

More pics please

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I didn't think airbags would look so good on a subie!
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why is this on page two? more please!!
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