Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday July 28, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Member's Car Gallery

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-15-2013, 06:59 PM   #1001
25rsti
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 166324
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Haverhill, MA
Vehicle:
3 turbos &n NA
@DBlockSTi

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxscaxx View Post
can't wait to contribute (again) to this thread.
Glad you're sticking with it
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
25rsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 07:04 PM   #1002
Sato_unit
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 230417
Join Date: Nov 2009
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: OC, CA
Default

Sato_unit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 08:06 AM   #1003
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sato_unit View Post
Lookin forward to seeing your Legacy with new shoes, Abbitt!

Quote:
Originally Posted by RSTIJay View Post
Thanks for the info. Sounds like it should work then. I did some measuring today to confirm. I talked to you guys at eurokracy for about an hour about bag setups and I think it's finally time.
Glad I could help! Shoot me an e-mail/PM if would like any additional info on a setup or if there is otherwise anything I can do to assist you!

While everyone has been busy with new air ride installs (keep the pics coming!) I've been redoing my door card inserts. 2/4 done, they're coming out good! I'm doing black suede to match my headliner and sunvisors, and red stitching since I'm a big fan of black/red. Going to be testing out black dip with a clear coat to see if I can't get a bit more shine (i.e., make it look more like a 3M wrap) and if so, go ahead with the sedan -> wagon widebody rear end conversion
Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 12:21 PM   #1004
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Hey Everyone! As per request, some full lift shots as well as speed of lift and drop. Please excuse my dirty wagon

Please Note: I have my struts threaded very short so that I have a stiffer spring rate at my driving height, and while rolling low

FRONT FULL LIFT


REAR FULL LIFT


Here is a video showing my wagon lifting and dropping. I'm using 3/8" air lines to my front and rear bags, and a SINGLE exhaust line from the VU4. My exhaust is routed outside of the vehicle via a bulkhead union, which is why you can hear the air rushing out while the car lowers. Since I'm only (1) of the (2) exhaust ports available on the VU4 manifold, the dump speed is slightly slower than if both ports were open.

If anyone is wondering, I am controlling my system via the TouchBox iPhone controller by Zaetech, PM me for more info! Bag Riders is the sole distributor of this controller, it works with any system using electric valves!

Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 02:13 PM   #1005
low-n-slow
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 313818
Join Date: Mar 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: North West OH
Vehicle:
2002 wrx hybrid
WRB

Default

Please excuse newb content:


There are predetermined ride heights you can program in, correct?


Proceed with specialist posts:
low-n-slow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 02:43 PM   #1006
King of Poop
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 177880
Join Date: Apr 2008
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Greensboro, NC
Vehicle:
2002 Wrx Wagon 6sp
Where can I get some cake

Default

I wanna hate it so bad...just cant
King of Poop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 02:48 PM   #1007
twc
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 236172
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: reno, nv
Vehicle:
07 wrx wagon
swp

Default

Great video! Really gives me a good understanding of what airing up/down looks like in real time. (Since nobody around me has air on any type of vehicle)
twc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 02:49 PM   #1008
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by low-n-slow View Post
Please excuse newb content:


There are predetermined ride heights you can program in, correct?


Proceed with specialist posts:
With the AccuAir e-Level system, yes you can have user defined ride-height presets. Other digital systems, such as the Air Lift AutoPilot V2 use air spring pressure for presets.

We made a video demonstrating the difference between these systems, check it out!


Our FAQ page also has information about pressure vs height based systems, here is a direct link to the answer: http://bagriders.com/modlab/pages/AI...ht-vs-pressure


Quote:
Originally Posted by King of Poop View Post
I wanna hate it so bad...just cant
That's good to hear I think many people share the same feeling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by twc View Post
Great video! Really gives me a good understanding of what airing up/down looks like in real time. (Since nobody around me has air on any type of vehicle)
Thanks! I'm glad it helps! Feel free to request any other informational videos you're interested in!
Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 02:51 PM   #1009
low-n-slow
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 313818
Join Date: Mar 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: North West OH
Vehicle:
2002 wrx hybrid
WRB

Default

^Awesome! Thank you. I'm just trying to widen my knowledge, being an engineering student.
low-n-slow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 03:04 PM   #1010
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by low-n-slow View Post
^Awesome! Thank you. I'm just trying to widen my knowledge, being an engineering student.
Right on! We have a couple engineering graduates here, myself being one (software and network engineering) the other is an electrical engineer. You may find it interesting that the "new" (redesigned) e-Level height sensors seemingly use a servo motor to measure resistance (i.e., height position), as they can rotate freely. This is juxtaposed to the previous design which could not rotate freely, leading me to believe they utilized a potentiometer to determine the arm's position. Again, that's just me speculating, but both guesses make sense to me!
Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 03:08 PM   #1011
DownhillSubie
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 342985
Join Date: Jan 2013
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Default

Bag Riders.
DownhillSubie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 03:26 PM   #1012
low-n-slow
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 313818
Join Date: Mar 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: North West OH
Vehicle:
2002 wrx hybrid
WRB

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bag Riders Air Ride View Post
Right on! We have a couple engineering graduates here, myself being one (software and network engineering) the other is an electrical engineer. You may find it interesting that the "new" (redesigned) e-Level height sensors seemingly use a servo motor to measure resistance (i.e., height position), as they can rotate freely. This is juxtaposed to the previous design which could not rotate freely, leading me to believe they utilized a potentiometer to determine the arm's position. Again, that's just me speculating, but both guesses make sense to me!
That's awesome! I'm in school to become a Design Engineer.
low-n-slow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 03:56 PM   #1013
Wirtz
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 286408
Join Date: Jun 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Vehicle:
WFC #952
Function:error!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bag Riders Air Ride View Post
Right on! We have a couple engineering graduates here, myself being one (software and network engineering) the other is an electrical engineer. You may find it interesting that the "new" (redesigned) e-Level height sensors seemingly use a servo motor to measure resistance (i.e., height position), as they can rotate freely. This is juxtaposed to the previous design which could not rotate freely, leading me to believe they utilized a potentiometer to determine the arm's position. Again, that's just me speculating, but both guesses make sense to me!
Wanna hire a mechanical engineer? (nudge nudge)
Wirtz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 05:52 PM   #1014
dragon-wagon
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 293915
Join Date: Sep 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Vehicle:
2002 Legacy GT Wagon
Silver Stone Metallic

Default

Oh man! I would love to bag my Legacy wagon but it looks like you guys haven't really done the wagon version... yet. What are the downsides to having bags in the winter? I live in the midwest and snow and cold are rampant. Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

Sorry if this has all been covered previously, but thanks for the info.
dragon-wagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #1015
Bizborky
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 337362
Join Date: Nov 2012
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: The Great Place, TX
Vehicle:
2013 WRX
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon-wagon View Post
Oh man! I would love to bag my Legacy wagon but it looks like you guys haven't really done the wagon version... yet. What are the downsides to having bags in the winter? I live in the midwest and snow and cold are rampant. Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

Sorry if this has all been covered previously, but thanks for the info.
I ran my old VW GTI air ride through a winter. If you have a pressure based system of management you will need to pay attention to ride height as what was 40psi in the summer may not register as high as when the air is denser outside in the winter, resulting in a lower ride height than you intended.

Also you will want to put a little anti freeze in your tank to ensure the longevity of your valves and so that they don't freeze.

In addition you will for sure want a water trap inline to the tank directly after your compressor to catch any possible water to ensure it doesn't make it to your valves.

Other than that, so long as you did a good install, ensuring you don't have any kinked lines (Which will possible crack in the cold weather) you can daily air suspension in the winter.

Last edited by Bizborky; 01-16-2013 at 08:44 PM.
Bizborky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 08:32 PM   #1016
Lokemer
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 316913
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SW Virginia
Vehicle:
2011 Outback Sport
Red

Default

Isn't having an air compressor in your car loud and annoying? I really love the look and the function but I would think that would be annoying and loud.
Lokemer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 08:46 PM   #1017
Bizborky
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 337362
Join Date: Nov 2012
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: The Great Place, TX
Vehicle:
2013 WRX
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokemer View Post
Isn't having an air compressor in your car loud and annoying? I really love the look and the function but I would think that would be annoying and loud.
So long as you aren't messing with the ride height a lot it wont be an issue. Once the tank is full the compressor wont kick on unless you keep expelling the air out of the tank (messing with the ride height). Plus if you do a good install you can minimize a lot of the noise and vibration. Plus turning up the radio helps a bit too

Last edited by Bizborky; 01-16-2013 at 08:52 PM.
Bizborky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 10:18 PM   #1018
ocdpvw
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 282232
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Vehicle:
2012 TP Stage 2
Bagged SWP

Default



Last edited by ocdpvw; 01-16-2013 at 10:27 PM.
ocdpvw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 08:15 AM   #1019
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DownhillSubie View Post
Bag Riders.
Thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon-wagon View Post
Oh man! I would love to bag my Legacy wagon but it looks like you guys haven't really done the wagon version... yet. What are the downsides to having bags in the winter? I live in the midwest and snow and cold are rampant. Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

Sorry if this has all been covered previously, but thanks for the info.
We can bag your Legacy Wagon, shoot me an e-mail john@bagriders.com or PM me here!

Air ride is absolutely OK to use in the winter, we're located in Northern Vermont where it gets quite chilly! We have an answer to this specific question in our handy FAQ section, here is a direct link: http://bagriders.com/modlab/pages/AI...AQ.html#winter

Everything Bizborky says basically sums it up! We recommend draining your tank slightly more frequently during the winter months.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokemer View Post
Isn't having an air compressor in your car loud and annoying? I really love the look and the function but I would think that would be annoying and loud.
It all depends on how you have the compressor(s) mounted. You can even mount them outside the cabin. Personally, I use (2) 400C compressors (the fastest, loudest VIAIR compressor we sell) but the noise is kept down with the AccuAir EXO Mounting System. I managed to keep both my entire air management tucked nicely in my spare tire compartment, which doesn't have any sound deadening unless you count the thin flap/false floor that seals it from the cabin. I don't notice my compressors kick on during highway driving, or around town if I have the windows down/music on.

Here is a shot of my trunk setup (before I put a wire loom over that bunch of wires)


There are a bunch of different ways to mount your compressor(s) that help mitigate noise, but ultimately I feel that the EXO system is the best solution. My new (2) EXO Mounted 400C's are quieter than my old (1) non-EXO'd 400C setup! Feel free to e-mail or PM me with any questions
Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 10:36 AM   #1020
ocdpvw
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 282232
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Vehicle:
2012 TP Stage 2
Bagged SWP

Default

Bagriders did a great job showing the lift on their ride. Here is a quick shot of the lift on a GR.

ocdpvw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 11:44 AM   #1021
OPEN ROAD TUNING
Former Vendor
 
Member#: 315918
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Malvern, PA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon-wagon View Post
Oh man! I would love to bag my Legacy wagon but it looks like you guys haven't really done the wagon version... yet. What are the downsides to having bags in the winter? I live in the midwest and snow and cold are rampant. Are there any issues that I should be aware of?

Sorry if this has all been covered previously, but thanks for the info.
We just finished up a Legacy Spec B build.

I'll see if I can't dig up some pictures for you
OPEN ROAD TUNING is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 12:47 PM   #1022
Bag Riders Air Ride
NASIOC Vendor
 
Member#: 316221
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: South Burlington, Vermont
Vehicle:
06 WRX Wagon Ltd.
UGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ocdpvw View Post
Bagriders did a great job showing the lift on their ride. Here is a quick shot of the lift on a GR.
Nice info about the GR fronts! What about the rear? Also, did you thread the struts up/down from the "factory" length? The rear's come out of the box at their shortest possible length, which needs to be extended in order to use the 3/8" PTC fitting that comes in the box.
Bag Riders Air Ride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 01:08 PM   #1023
ocdpvw
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 282232
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Vehicle:
2012 TP Stage 2
Bagged SWP

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bag Riders Air Ride View Post
Nice info about the GR fronts! What about the rear? Also, did you thread the struts up/down from the "factory" length? The rear's come out of the box at their shortest possible length, which needs to be extended in order to use the 3/8" PTC fitting that comes in the box.
I still have the rears set pretty low. One of the goals Air Lift had when making the kit was to ensure that it went low enough. Going into the project they were made well aware of other rears not being able to tuck even 18s with some of the other kits on the market today. I do not have as much lift on the rears as I do the fronts, but I do plan to make that adjustment once it warms up again.
ocdpvw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 02:04 PM   #1024
Bo0stin5STI
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 162174
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Westminster, MD
Vehicle:
05 CGM STi - SOLD
13 SWP STi - TITS

Default

Subscribed
Bo0stin5STI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2013, 04:17 PM   #1025
DaveySTI
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 343536
Join Date: Jan 2013
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bag Riders Air Ride View Post
how do you drain the tanks and water traps ?
DaveySTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Air ride/air bag shops in the NW? Mr. Sadface North West Impreza Club Forum -- NWIC 10 10-17-2013 12:59 AM
FS : WI: BMW 740il on Air ride Jester of Paint Private Vehicle 'For Sale' Classifieds 9 04-16-2012 07:49 PM
Suby high speed ride? ProvenPSI General Community 60 08-22-2007 08:40 AM
Tahoe on 20" wheels, and Air Ride ON EBAY!!!! airbags98 Private Vehicle 'For Sale' Classifieds 6 11-19-2005 10:08 AM
All Subies on the Marine Corp air station redgrocerygetter South East Region Forum 8 08-29-2003 05:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.