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Old 02-17-2013, 11:28 AM   #1251
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For any of you with v2 management...

I know it's pressure based so when you have a full car, the car rides lower. How do you compensate for that? My first thought was to get some friends and hve them sit in your car then set one your presets so when you have a car full you can set it to that and not worry about rubbing. Any ideas? Suggestions?
the problem i see with that is itll never be quite right. weight of people on different sides of the car, number of people (4,3,2,1?), carrying extra weight besides people?, etc.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:41 PM   #1252
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For any of you with v2 management...

I know it's pressure based so when you have a full car, the car rides lower. How do you compensate for that? My first thought was to get some friends and hve them sit in your car then set one your presets so when you have a car full you can set it to that and not worry about rubbing. Any ideas? Suggestions?
I have a preset on the car for added weight in the front, front & rear, and just rear. If none of those fit the situation there is a manual mode to adjust each corner as needed. While height sensors are cool, not always needed IMO. If you already have the V2, just wait a little longer, Air Lift does have a height sensors in the works.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:48 PM   #1253
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I have a preset on the car for added weight in the front, front & rear, and just rear. If none of those fit the situation there is a manual mode to adjust each corner as needed. While height sensors are cool, not always needed IMO. If you already have the V2, just wait a little longer, Air Lift does have a height sensors in the works.
That would be awesome if it would work with an existing v2. Now only if the controller was wireless
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:00 PM   #1254
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That would be awesome if it would work with an existing v2. Now only if the controller was wireless

LOL, they have sensors on their drift car right now working with the V2 I believe. It's just a matter of testing on a daily car and making tweaks for more reliability. As for wireless, there is also going to be release of a smart phone app which allows for you to control the V2 just like the I-Level.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:07 PM   #1255
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:19 PM   #1256
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For any of you with v2 management...

I know it's pressure based so when you have a full car, the car rides lower. How do you compensate for that? My first thought was to get some friends and hve them sit in your car then set one your presets so when you have a car full you can set it to that and not worry about rubbing. Any ideas? Suggestions?
Remember that pressure has a direct relation to spring rate. That said, how would you make a car with coil-spring suspension not drop as low when extra weight is added to the cabin? You would get stiffer springs. With Air Suspension, you just add a bit of extra air, i.e., making the springs stiffer.

Your idea works, but depending on the weight of your friends and the orientation where they sit in the car, it won't always be reliable. With a pressure-based management setup, whenever weight changes in the cabin you should check your corner heights after you adjust pressure. This is the real benefit of height-based systems, especially for a daily; they take any effort/trouble out of daily driving an air ride equipped vehicle.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:36 PM   #1257
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Remember that pressure has a direct relation to spring rate. That said, how would you make a car with coil-spring suspension not drop as low when extra weight is added to the cabin? You would get stiffer springs. With Air Suspension, you just add a bit of extra air, i.e., making the springs stiffer.

Your idea works, but depending on the weight of your friends and the orientation where they sit in the car, it won't always be reliable. With a pressure-based management setup, whenever weight changes in the cabin you should check your corner heights after you adjust pressure. This is the real benefit of height-based systems, especially for a daily; they take any effort/trouble out of daily driving an air ride equipped vehicle.
Yeah I understand that. You get what you pay for kinda deal.. V2 is a really good system, as well as accuair. Honestly, if I got 3 of my friends to sit in my car and had a preset for that.. I don't think it would dramatically change the dynamics of the corners if the weight was +/- 20 lbs or whatever on each side. Kind of like coilovers, like you said!
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:49 PM   #1258
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LOL, they have sensors on their drift car right now working with the V2 I believe. It's just a matter of testing on a daily car and making tweaks for more reliability. As for wireless, there is also going to be release of a smart phone app which allows for you to control the V2 just like the I-Level.
Even better news!
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #1259
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #1260
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:04 AM   #1261
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:06 AM   #1262
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:07 PM   #1263
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Yeah I understand that. You get what you pay for kinda deal.. V2 is a really good system, as well as accuair. Honestly, if I got 3 of my friends to sit in my car and had a preset for that.. I don't think it would dramatically change the dynamics of the corners if the weight was +/- 20 lbs or whatever on each side. Kind of like coilovers, like you said!
This is how I look at it as well.

I had the elevel on my STi, and I just finished placing my order for a v2/airlift struts for my BRZ (thanks john ). I went with the v2 this time because 1) I didn't want to drill into my new car to install the height sensors, and 2) less stuff to install. I'm hoping I don't regret the switch, but seeing as my car can only really hold one person, I don't have to really worry about having a lot of different settings.

Plus I found that with my STi it was basically just me in the car 95% of the time, and I never had to make any adjustments anyways. So I should be good to go with just one or two presets.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:27 PM   #1264
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #1266
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:39 PM   #1267
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This is how I look at it as well.

I had the elevel on my STi, and I just finished placing my order for a v2/airlift struts for my BRZ (thanks john ). I went with the v2 this time because 1) I didn't want to drill into my new car to install the height sensors, and 2) less stuff to install. I'm hoping I don't regret the switch, but seeing as my car can only really hold one person, I don't have to really worry about having a lot of different settings.

Plus I found that with my STi it was basically just me in the car 95% of the time, and I never had to make any adjustments anyways. So I should be good to go with just one or two presets.
I have found with my v2 I have no issues when I have passengers in or not. Maybe it's different since I have a hatch but so far so good. One thing is for sure. I am very thankful with the systems flexibility when it comes to these frost heeved roads in ct. I drove in over two feet of unplowed snow on my way back from work and it held strong. It's an amazing product and very durable.
At this point, I just need to finish Modding the rear bumper cover to fit my 265's. the fenders are pulled enough but the rear bumper is pulling out just a Tad when fully Stanced. No biggie.
BTW, thanks for the love and support. John at bag riders has been amazing and I Can't wait to meet up with the rest of the bag riders family and represent this awesome suspension system
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:11 AM   #1269
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This is how I look at it as well.

I had the elevel on my STi, and I just finished placing my order for a v2/airlift struts for my BRZ (thanks john ). I went with the v2 this time because 1) I didn't want to drill into my new car to install the height sensors, and 2) less stuff to install. I'm hoping I don't regret the switch, but seeing as my car can only really hold one person, I don't have to really worry about having a lot of different settings.

Plus I found that with my STi it was basically just me in the car 95% of the time, and I never had to make any adjustments anyways. So I should be good to go with just one or two presets.
I can't wait to see your BRZ on the ground, Joe! I always enjoy talking to you! Hope to see you at WBM and our BBQ this year

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I have found with my v2 I have no issues when I have passengers in or not. Maybe it's different since I have a hatch but so far so good. One thing is for sure. I am very thankful with the systems flexibility when it comes to these frost heeved roads in ct. I drove in over two feet of unplowed snow on my way back from work and it held strong. It's an amazing product and very durable.
At this point, I just need to finish Modding the rear bumper cover to fit my 265's. the fenders are pulled enough but the rear bumper is pulling out just a Tad when fully Stanced. No biggie.
BTW, thanks for the love and support. John at bag riders has been amazing and I Can't wait to meet up with the rest of the bag riders family and represent this awesome suspension system
Thanks for the kind words Grant! I'm glad you're liking your setup. The same goes for you-- WBM and Bag Riders BBQ!


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How I miss summer... here's a shot by Gengstout of Kevin's whip at our BBQ last year!
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:26 PM   #1270
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Anyone with airline routing photos email to deonmacphee@gmail.com .
Looking at running inside rather then outside for safety .

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Old 02-19-2013, 02:35 PM   #1271
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I second that. Also interested!
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #1272
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Looking at running inside rather then outside for safety .

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I run mine inside. And everyones car i have done inside. Its pretty self explanatory and easy task!
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