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Old 04-12-2012, 04:46 PM   #1
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It is too late to make requests for the 2013 BRZ currently being produced.. so for the sake of being constructive, what are some minor options or packaging changes you'd like to see for 2014.

I say minor because AWD, hybrid drivetrains, CVT transmissions and turbochargers are probably out of the question for the next year. So.. lets just avoid any unrealistic comments regarding how much you think the car needs 250whp, a dual-clutch manual and 4WD with lockers. If you want to ask SOA for those things, feel free to start your own thread about the 2014 BRZ drivetrain.

For instance, I'd like to see:
  1. more interior options
    • dash/door insert colors & materials
    • a full leather interior option
    • configurable mood lighting option
    • puddle lights
  2. more varied paint colors
    • I'd like to see one of the blues ditched in favor of a metallic green, blaze yellow and or a classy gold/beige
    • A different shade of red.
    • ditch the boring rental car grey.. Subaru's metallic black is grey enough for anyone.
  3. a rear window wiper
  4. the underbody panels included in other markets (like the '05-'07 STI underbody airflow management)
  5. a working, factory, rear fog light
  6. A normal single-din head unit that supports bluetooth smartphones for making calls, multimedia and even app control (ie: pandora/slacker controls).
  7. Some simple, classy, open spoked grey wheels in either 16" or 17" sizes
  8. A factory Bilstein (or Koni FSD) shock option.. BRZ Spec B, if you will.
  9. A headlight adjuster wheel (a-la the STI)
  10. headlight washers
  11. Steering wheel controls for bluetooth, volume & mute

What would you change?
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:56 PM   #2
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regarding #11:
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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  • YELLOW EXTERIOR PAINT
  • Headlight washers,
  • rear window wiper,
  • underbody panels,
  • Bilstein/Koni suspension or similar.

Overall a larger difference between the two trims; wheels, NAV, etc.. I don't understand why both trims can't have illuminated vanity mirrors. That really cheapens the entire car when it's missing a little thing like that. Both trims should have those little things while the bigger things (read: leather, HVAC, etc.) continue to differentiate the two trims.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:33 PM   #4
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It is too late to make requests for the 2013 BRZ currently being produced.. so for the sake of being constructive, what are some minor options or packaging changes you'd like to see for 2014.

I say minor because AWD, hybrid drivetrains, CVT transmissions and turbochargers are probably out of the question for the next year. So.. lets just avoid any unrealistic comments regarding how much you think the car needs 250whp, a dual-clutch manual and 4WD with lockers. If you want to ask SOA for those things, feel free to start your own thread about the 2014 BRZ drivetrain.

For instance, I'd like to see:
  1. more interior options
    • dash/door insert colors & materials
    • a full leather interior option
    • configurable mood lighting option
    • puddle lights
  2. more varied paint colors
    • I'd like to see one of the blues ditched in favor of a metallic green, blaze yellow and or a classy gold/beige
    • A different shade of red.
    • ditch the boring rental car grey.. Subaru's metallic black is grey enough for anyone.
  3. a rear window wiper
  4. the underbody panels included in other markets (like the '05-'07 STI underbody airflow management)
  5. a working, factory, rear fog light
  6. A normal single-din head unit that supports bluetooth smartphones for making calls, multimedia and even app control (ie: pandora/slacker controls).
  7. Some simple, classy, open spoked grey wheels in either 16" or 17" sizes
  8. A factory Bilstein (or Koni FSD) shock option.. BRZ Spec B, if you will.
  9. A headlight adjuster wheel (a-la the STI)
  10. headlight washers
  11. Steering wheel controls for bluetooth, volume & mute

What would you change?
I always see people mention this, but the cars that are touring the country have these on them.. At least the limited does.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:12 PM   #5
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Also, #9 HID adjuster, is part of the HID installation, although it has less up/down range than the STi.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:46 PM   #6
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Also, #9 HID adjuster, is part of the HID installation, although it has less up/down range than the STi.
Can you confirm this with a link or some such thing? I'm curious about this because when they were first introduced on the STI it was because you could use the STI for towing (from what I read years ago), but eventually they just marketed it as "not blinding on-coming traffic during normal driving" which is horse pucky since they should be level anyways.

Edit: Nevermind, found it! Thanks!

http://brz-club.com/wp-content/uploa...ual-merged.pdf

Page 201.

That's mighty interesting... The same concept applies as the current STI (or even WRX LimiteD). If there are no passengers, but full luggage load, then it should be aimed down more, but with full passengers and full luggage load, it should be aimed down a little less. That's awesome thinking! Although I wonder how far you could get in a packed-out BRZ. hahaha

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Old 04-13-2012, 08:15 PM   #7
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Can you confirm this with a link or some such thing? I'm curious about this because when they were first introduced on the STI it was because you could use the STI for towing (from what I read years ago), but eventually they just marketed it as "not blinding on-coming traffic during normal driving" which is horse pucky since they should be level anyways.

Edit: Nevermind, found it! Thanks!

http://brz-club.com/wp-content/uploa...ual-merged.pdf

Page 201.

That's mighty interesting... The same concept applies as the current STI (or even WRX LimiteD). If there are no passengers, but full luggage load, then it should be aimed down more, but with full passengers and full luggage load, it should be aimed down a little less. That's awesome thinking! Although I wonder how far you could get in a packed-out BRZ. hahaha
Since it only has the two options I suppose the "recalibration" mod is out...

But then, the STi's high beam isn't xenon, and the BRZ's is, being bi-xenon. In fact, the BRZ's lights under normal loads actually already have the ability to not only be raised, but better lighting than the STi overall!

From disappointing to happy just like that. Bodes well for the BRZ.
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Since it only has the two options I suppose the "recalibration" mod is out...

But then, the STi's high beam isn't xenon, and the BRZ's is, being bi-xenon. In fact, the BRZ's lights under normal loads actually already have the ability to not only be raised, but better lighting than the STi overall!

From disappointing to happy just like that. Bodes well for the BRZ.
They don't even talk about Dial Position 3... So mysterious!!! Maybe it's another dimension? Or maybe it's the "American Standard Dial Position"? hahahaha Endless possibilities!
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:26 PM   #9
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Since it only has the two options I suppose the "recalibration" mod is out...

But then, the STi's high beam isn't xenon, and the BRZ's is, being bi-xenon. In fact, the BRZ's lights under normal loads actually already have the ability to not only be raised, but better lighting than the STi overall!

From disappointing to happy just like that. Bodes well for the BRZ.
Double-post, but I'm curious about the bi-xenon. I don't think I've ever seen HID high beams, before...
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:06 PM   #10
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Double-post, but I'm curious about the bi-xenon. I don't think I've ever seen HID high beams, before...
Me either... so I did some searching. This is the best explanation I came across.


I'm "assuming" here that the BRZ is this construction. The dual-bulb bi-xenon setups are inherently not as good, nor as reliable.

Final analysis: GREAT lights. They are also auto-dimming.

The front fog lamps are halogen, of course, but of a new, energy-saving, long-lasting design. This allows a manufacturer to use lighter, plastic, housings since these lamps are only 24 watts. Consequently, you should not put in replacement halogen upgrades like in other fogs... or you'll melt the housings. Thankfully, there are LED replacements.

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Old 04-13-2012, 10:30 PM   #11
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Yeah, but SOA decided not to use them in the US because their market research told them that potential BRZ buyers don't want them.

Hopefully the wiring harness is routed through the steering wheel so adding them will be a matter of ordering and installing the parts (the plastic covers on the spokes can be swapped.. No need to buy an entire wheel).

[edit] Oops! On another look at the non-multifunction wheel, the horizontal spokes are leather wrapped. The multifunction wheel might be a completely different wheel. Bummer.
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I always see people mention this, but the cars that are touring the country have these on them.. At least the limited does.
... and some of them have the buttons on the steering wheel too. So far the word is that the US model will not have them.

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Also, #9 HID adjuster, is part of the HID installation, although it has less up/down range than the STi.
Thanks! I really enjoyed that feature on my STI.

Yeah, all bi-xenon projectors work like that. On the STI the halogen high beams are worthless (except as ugly DRLs). Bi-xenon projectors are fantastic.

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Old 04-14-2012, 01:45 PM   #12
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I'd like Aspen White and a rear spoiler delete option on the Limited.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:33 PM   #13
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Double-post, but I'm curious about the bi-xenon. I don't think I've ever seen HID high beams, before...
My BMW has bi-xenon hids. The is a shutter in place at low beam setting the when you switch to highbeams, the shutter drops within the projector and gives an unrestricted beam pattern. Same bulb is used, same power output is projected. very effective.
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The fact it doesn't come in yellow is really the biggest reason I haven't tried to order one yet.
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The fact it doesn't come in yellow is really the biggest reason I haven't tried to order one yet.
I don't find any of the current colors desirable. Maybe the dark blue will look good in person... They're all rental car colors except for the WRB.. and that's just lip service to the AWD fanbois. The sperm white... ugh.. nothing sporty about your car looking dirty all the time.
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Something's wrong if I'm thinking of what it'd cost to have the car painted before I even see one at a dealership, let alone buy one. The scion versions have slightly different colors, but I don't understand the 3 different shades of red. I guess black isn't that bad, but it's just one of those things that convinces me to save my money and keep my already functional car.
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Having color make all the difference would leave a very shallow relationship.

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If I'm going to drop $26k on a toy car.. it's going to be in a color I like.

While I like the styling of the BRZ somewhat, the looks are not why I'm interested in buying one. I actually have quite a new nits to pick with the way the body looks (boring fender vents, ugly hood/bumper seam, ricetastic exhaust ports, black bumper cover.. aka:the retainer, hideous taillights and wheels). So.. nice try assuming that I'd buy the car for looks.
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If I'm going to drop $26k on a toy car.. it's going to be in a color I like.

While I like the styling of the BRZ somewhat, the looks are not why I'm interested in buying one. I actually have quite a new nits to pick with the way the body looks (boring fender vents, ugly hood/bumper seam, ricetastic exhaust ports, black bumper cover.. aka:the retainer, hideous taillights and wheels). So.. nice try assuming that I'd buy the car for looks.
That conversation doesn't belong on the I Love It column. OK, you don't like it and have reasons why.

But even though I have comments like those, as well as my own, looking at it only encourages me to look more, not turn away.

It I hadn't owned a couple things in my life that I literally loved, I wouldn't know the difference. But I have, and while so many things are nice enough not to be kicked out of bed, only a rare few make you want to run your hands over them every time it draws you close.

Logic says Subiyota/Toyobaru designed these cars to have universal appeal to open more pockets in more demographics and more markets. Your nits are beauty marks on the bride.
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Something's a little awry, all right, logic slid sideways in an enthusiasts' automobile forum.

Something... like when the color of the outermost molecules on the exterior surface of < anything > defines its personal value.

Speaking for myself, in spite of being happy with my color choice, almost every time I see a picture of a BRZ I see a beautiful car, and for those moments question my choice. Fickle for the face.

However, the major influence of the BRZ comes to me from things unseen... the engineering, and how that engineered machine works. Not just the lump sitting there... although even then that "lump" conveys an attraction in and of itself.

Having color make all that difference would leave a very shallow relationship. Every evening when the light faded the color would go with the night and only a monochrome replica remain until the day. No color then. No love.

If you love a thing it is beautiful in the dark. Your mind and your hands are eyes.

If you don't love a thing, why have it?
Were you going for "creepy" here? If so, mission accomplished.
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Were you going for "creepy" here? If so, mission accomplished.
You're excused.

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That conversation doesn't belong on the I Love It column. OK, you don't like it and have reasons why.

But even though I have comments like those, as well as my own, looking at it only encourages me to look more, not turn away.

It I hadn't owned a couple things in my life that I literally loved, I wouldn't know the difference. But I have, and while so many things are nice enough not to be kicked out of bed, only a rare few make you want to run your hands over them every time it draws you close.

Logic says Subiyota/Toyobaru designed these cars to have universal appeal to open more pockets in more demographics and more markets. Your nits are beauty marks on the bride.
Settle down Hemingway. I don't like the colors.. you are a complete and utter fanboi.. lets move on.
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Settle down Hemingway. I don't like the colors.. you are a complete and utter fanboi.. lets move on.
You've probably posted the answer elsewhere, but I can't recall: Which colors would inspire you? Or would you prefer to be surprised by the choices Subaru provided?
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It's #2 in my list in the OP.
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It's #2 in my list in the OP.
I saw that. I don't know why, but I was hoping for something more specific or at least examples on production cars (even if they're not production cars you particularly enjoy). I see words, but I relate to pictures!
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