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Old 04-14-2012, 09:16 PM   #1
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I'm getting my car back from the plaint shop on Monday. I know I'm supposed to wait up to 3 months before I wax my car, but is there anything I should avoid in terms of washing my car? Any type of soap that I should avoid?

Also is there anything special I should use for wheels? I've heard eagle one can **** up wheels.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:18 PM   #2
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I got some Superior brand commercial grade soap from O'Reily but any standard soap will do, as for the wheels, just make sure it's safe for the material, like don't use chrome wheel cleaner on alloy's or machined lips, I use Hot wheels by Meguiars a nylon brush then go back with a spray of invisible glass to get rid of water spots (on my chrome rims, and no they're not no my WRX). if you're into tire dressing go with endurance it last so much longer than any other brand. I might just do the first wax on my 2012 this weekend, for wax I like the NXT paste, really easy on and off.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:37 AM   #3
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I'm getting my car back from the plaint shop on Monday. I know I'm supposed to wait up to 3 months before I wax my car, but is there anything I should avoid in terms of washing my car? Any type of soap that I should avoid?

Also is there anything special I should use for wheels? I've heard eagle one can **** up wheels.
....I wouldn't over think it. Any good quality car wash shampoo/soap should be fine.

As for E1, what product exactly are you talking about as far as damaging wheels? .....A2Z?
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:05 PM   #4
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I got some Superior brand commercial grade soap from O'Reily but any standard soap will do, as for the wheels, just make sure it's safe for the material, like don't use chrome wheel cleaner on alloy's or machined lips, I use Hot wheels by Meguiars a nylon brush then go back with a spray of invisible glass to get rid of water spots (on my chrome rims, and no they're not no my WRX). if you're into tire dressing go with endurance it last so much longer than any other brand. I might just do the first wax on my 2012 this weekend, for wax I like the NXT paste, really easy on and off.
Not to knock you, but hot wheels SUCKS! IMO a better thing to use that is safe for paint and wheels would be adams all purpose cleaner or something such as that... that's only for really bad built up dirt... for basic washing just use your basic soap.

OP, also they say to wait 3 months, I have read multiple places that 45 days is enough time... I suppose all of it is debatable however. If the car is going to see a lot of heat and direct sunlight IMO 90 days is not necessary. Someone with more knowledge please chime in if i'm wrong though.
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:09 PM   #5
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Follow the shop's instruction when it comes to waxing. One of the worst things on new paint is bird droppings. It will eat right thru the new paint.
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:55 PM   #6
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yeah... bird crap is pretty damn harsh on everything.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:32 PM   #7
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Car wash soap eh pretty much anything is fine but make sure you are washing properly as opposed to your typical "driveway washer" use the two bucket method with grit guards inserted to reduce possibility of scratching and swirling paint... make sure the car wash doesn't have any waxing agents in it...

The reason body shops say to not wax for 90 days is because the paint has to "gas" and wax stops the gas from being able to escape... Also on first hand experience I have seen clearcoat failure from someone waxing to soon so this isn't just a cautious thing it's true that it will f up your paint by waxing to early!!!! You can however use a "new paint safe" wax Wizard is a big brand for that.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:18 PM   #8
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The reason body shops say to not wax for 90 days is because the paint has to "gas" and wax stops the gas from being able to escape... Also on first hand experience I have seen clearcoat failure from someone waxing to soon so this isn't just a cautious thing it's true that it will f up your paint by waxing to early!!!! You can however use a "new paint safe" wax Wizard is a big brand for that.

Silicone is what you are alluding to. Anything with silicone is detrimental to fresh clear.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:24 PM   #9
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Silicone is what you are alluding to. Anything with silicone is detrimental to fresh clear.
Thanks matt I have never been told the evil ingredient for new paint lol this is very good to know though
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #10
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Don't sit on the hood of your car for 3 months.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:21 PM   #11
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usually waxing should not be used on a new car paint until 3-4 weeks. or wait a little longer if your tempted to wax it.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:02 AM   #12
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Once clear is laid it can take up to 3 month to fully cure.hence the 90 days It will cure over time since it dries from the inside out from a chemical reaction with the activator. If it is baked at the proper temperature for the proper time it will force the process to speed up but only initially. Its for production and being able to get cars done faster. After a car is cleared we usually bake it at 150 degrees for 45 minutes with a cool down time of 15. It is now safe to wash with a regular car soap, but you should avoid 'wash and wax' type soaps. You can use silicone free polish but that is something the shop should be doing if they need to cut and buff it. Wait to add wax simply because it will clog the pores of the material.

The clear we use Dupont actually reccommends up to 120 days before adding wax to reach full cure.
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So by that bases would it be a bad idea to have a freshly painted bumper vinyl wrapped?

Edit - its been about a month since I got it painted and it's just sitting in my basement
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So by that bases would it be a bad idea to have a freshly painted bumper vinyl wrapped?

Edit - its been about a month since I got it painted and it's just sitting in my basement
I waited 3 months before I had a clear bra installed on my repainted bumper .
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So by that bases would it be a bad idea to have a freshly painted bumper vinyl wrapped?

Edit - its been about a month since I got it painted and it's just sitting in my basement
clear bras.

I wouldnt, simply for curing purposes. Even after clear is baked it is still curing for up to 120 days afterward. I would wait unless you dont ever plan to take the clear bra off, cause if you do, itll most likely rip the clear off with it. But thats a 50/50 shot. Ive seen it happen and other times have been amazed that it didnt. I have had customers who left after getting something painted to go get clear bra installed, get into an accident on the way back, they come back to the shop for repairs and we have to remove the clear bra and its only been like 2 days. Sometimes itll rip the clear off, sometimes it wont. The adhesive on the 3m clear bra is ridiculously strong. I reccommend waiting till its fully cured to be safe man.

but then again, your wanting vinyl wrap. I dont know much about there adhesives,or if they even use them. I thought the vinyl stuff went on like tint, with water and heat. But either way that wrap will probably be a barrier for vapor release while the clear is curing. I would wait still.
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I'm getting my car back from the plaint shop on Monday. I know I'm supposed to wait up to 3 months before I wax my car, but is there anything I should avoid in terms of washing my car? Any type of soap that I should avoid?

Also is there anything special I should use for wheels? I've heard eagle one can **** up wheels.
Avoid degreasers for a while. I like to use a rinseless-wash mixture instead of sudsy-soap - you can do something like that during the 1st 3 months.

Wheels.... tough subject. Whatever you apply has to be buffed, so watch for small gaps between the spokes. I like to use a wheel wax, it's like a jiggly yellow pudding. Apply a light coat to each wheel, then buff in the same order. That's it. But you can really apply any clear-coat-safe wax and get a good result.

Avoid the Eagle-One spray-on crap. It's like hosing-down with WD-40, and it will run all over your tires.
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clear bras.

I wouldnt, simply for curing purposes. Even after clear is baked it is still curing for up to 120 days afterward. I would wait unless you dont ever plan to take the clear bra off, cause if you do, itll most likely rip the clear off with it. But thats a 50/50 shot. Ive seen it happen and other times have been amazed that it didnt. I have had customers who left after getting something painted to go get clear bra installed, get into an accident on the way back, they come back to the shop for repairs and we have to remove the clear bra and its only been like 2 days. Sometimes itll rip the clear off, sometimes it wont. The adhesive on the 3m clear bra is ridiculously strong. I reccommend waiting till its fully cured to be safe man.

but then again, your wanting vinyl wrap. I dont know much about there adhesives,or if they even use them. I thought the vinyl stuff went on like tint, with water and heat. But either way that wrap will probably be a barrier for vapor release while the clear is curing. I would wait still.
Yeah I'm planning on doing a nice 7mm thick bra. I'm planning on using the new bumper for spring and summer and the old cracked/chipped bumper for winter only!
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