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Old 08-07-2012, 08:11 PM   #126
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I was never a fan of the new Impreza design, but after seeing yours, I am turning into one! Nice car!
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:45 PM   #127
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I was never a fan of the new Impreza design, but after seeing yours, I am turning into one! Nice car!
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Old 08-08-2012, 02:09 AM   #128
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What do the LED's look like on the car in the day time? Fog light ones that is.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:50 PM   #129
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What do the LED's look like on the car in the day time? Fog light ones that is.
Here are a couple of pics during the day with the lights on.



Close up of the LED's in the fog lights
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:27 PM   #130
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Don't you have an LED strip on the fog light area?
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:05 PM   #131
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Don't you have an LED strip on the fog light area?
I think this is what you're after....
Not too bright in the day light
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:45 PM   #132
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Ya I figured it wouldn't be too bright, just wondering how you had mounted them on there.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:53 PM   #133
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Ya I figured it wouldn't be too bright, just wondering how you had mounted them on there.
The strip of LED's has an adhesive backing which isn't all that great. The black fog light housing actually helps keep them in place. I might try a different LED setup one of these days that is a little more subtle and a lot brighter since my original plan was to disable the DRL's and use these in their place.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:39 PM   #134
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Sweet car and mods. Looks real nice in that color. Are those the same led bulbs in fogs and drls/high beams?
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:06 PM   #135
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Sweet car and mods. Looks real nice in that color. Are those the same led bulbs in fogs and drls/high beams?
Thanks!
The DRL/High beams are 9005. The fogs are H16.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:41 PM   #136
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Here are the pics. I apologize for the quality. Only have a point and shoot but I think you'll get the idea. Haven't had the opportunity to splurge on a DSLR yet.



This next picture shows the light output from the 7.5w 9005 LED's. I would say that these are high power led's. The "bulb" portion surrounding the LED's is a metal heat sink.

Those 7.5 LED were the $45 ones from Ijdmstore or Ebay?
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:53 PM   #137
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Those 7.5 LED were the $45 ones from Ijdmstore or Ebay?
Ebay.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:27 PM   #138
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How would you rate the Hi Beam output on those 7.5W LED 9005s? Comparable to the stock Halogens? And have you tried the Hi Beams for an extended period (15+ seconds) at night? I have no doubt that these work fine if you tap the Hi Beams ON for a second or two but I don't want them to burn out when I need them the most otherwise I will stick with the factory bulbs...Am right to assume that in DRL mode the bulb puts out less light (reduced power) and when you flick the Hi Beam switch it gets brighter or it is the same brightness all the time when on? Thanks.

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Old 08-20-2012, 09:05 PM   #139
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Here is a picture of the portion of the invoice regarding the ECM re-flash for the 5 speed manual.
Brought my car in today for a few minor issues, and had them look again for the ECM update.

They said:

"4272 ECM OK for modification. 455-288, UPG-48, Found ECM update for possible missfire codes. Reprogrammed ECM with lates logic."

So, it's the same codes that they listed on your repair order, I assume it's the same update, although they say it was for possible misfire codes.
This sort of makes sense, since the TSB I asked about earlier was:


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was this the TSB they were referring to for your ECM reflash:
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Service Bulletin # 11-117-12
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Bulletin Description: The purpose of this Service Bulletin is to announce the availability of updated ECM reprogramming files to address DTCs P0301 - P0304 or with an extended engine cranking condition. NOTE: These reprogramming files are intended to address a condition when DTCs are present for misfire, but no actual drivability condition exists or has been reported by the customer. Actual engine misfire or roughness conditions must be diagnosed according to the procedures listed in the applicable Service Manual.
So, my guess is that the main reason for the ECM update was that, but that our issue was also solved with the update.

I've only got 8 miles since the dealership, so I will see if I notice a difference or not.


Also, back to topic, previous you said you are starting research on adding a turbo to your car down the road after warranty is gone. I'd also eventually be interested in this. It seems like it wouldn't be ridiculously complex, especially if it is a mild amount of boost added. I'm not looking to go crazy with a big ass turbo, something like adding 5-8 lbs of boost maybe would be my goal. 50 hp or so would be fine with me.
I'm really hoping that the next gen WRX has enough similar components to make the job even easier, but it appears it will likely be based on the FR-S/BRZ FA20 engine...

What's the basic formula?
Add Turbo, intercooler, injectors, intake manifold, bigger exhaust, and ECM tune to handle everything? It's a big task, but I plan to have this car for a while, and wouldn't mind the effort involved.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:39 PM   #140
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Brought my car in today for a few minor issues, and had them look again for the ECM update.

They said:

"4272 ECM OK for modification. 455-288, UPG-48, Found ECM update for possible missfire codes. Reprogrammed ECM with lates logic."

So, it's the same codes that they listed on your repair order, I assume it's the same update, although they say it was for possible misfire codes.
This sort of makes sense, since the TSB I asked about earlier was:




So, my guess is that the main reason for the ECM update was that, but that our issue was also solved with the update.

I've only got 8 miles since the dealership, so I will see if I notice a difference or not.


Also, back to topic, previous you said you are starting research on adding a turbo to your car down the road after warranty is gone. I'd also eventually be interested in this. It seems like it wouldn't be ridiculously complex, especially if it is a mild amount of boost added. I'm not looking to go crazy with a big ass turbo, something like adding 5-8 lbs of boost maybe would be my goal. 50 hp or so would be fine with me.
I'm really hoping that the next gen WRX has enough similar components to make the job even easier, but it appears it will likely be based on the FR-S/BRZ FA20 engine...

What's the basic formula?
Add Turbo, intercooler, injectors, intake manifold, bigger exhaust, and ECM tune to handle everything? It's a big task, but I plan to have this car for a while, and wouldn't mind the effort involved.
I am glad that everything worked out for you. I'd be curious to know if you notice an improvement.

As far as the turbo goes I have good news....
Accelerated Performance has a turbo kit developed for the BRZ which is essentially the same engine as ours with a reversed intake manifold. I have been in contact with Don whom I think runs the shop. Right now he is offering the turbo kit at an introductory price of $4995 which is to include the following:

Turbocharger:
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-Fabricated and Fully Tungsten Inert Gas Welded In House

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-2.5" 304 Stainless Steel (.065" Thickness)
-304 Stainless Steel V-Band Turbine Outlet
-2.5" 304 Stainless Steel 2 Bolt Flange (No need for aftermarket Exhaust)
-Stainless Steel UEGO Oxygen Sensor Bung

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-Tial Q Blow Off Valve
-AP Air to Air 350HP Bar and Plate Intercooler
-Tungsten Inert Gas Welded w/ Cast Aluminum End Tanks
-Billet Aluminum MAF Adapter Plate
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-AP 3" 6061 Polished Aluminum Tubing
-K&N 3" Filter
-4 Ply Reinforced Silicone Couplers
-301 Stainless Steel Worm Guide Clamps

AP Stainless Steel Teflon Oil Feed Line and Fittings
AP Stainless Steel -8 Oil Drain Line and Fittings
AP Oil Filler Turbo Drain Return Cap
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Plug and Play Wiring Harness for Oil Scavenge Pump
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All Gaskets, Hardware and Instructions Included

Options available are:
2000 Degree Ceramic Coating Options: $285.00
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-Gold
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1600 Degree Ceramic Coating Options: $225.00
-Bright Silver

Powdercoated Intercooler Piping : $call
-Many Color Options

Downpipe $200
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Windshield Washer Bottle Removal $-60

Don offered to look at my car but he is in Ohio and I am in Southern California. The tuning is through Ecutek and PSI should be around 10. This kit is capable of 350hp with supporting mods..ie piston, rods, rings, bearings, etc but at a modest 10psi we should be okay. Obviously due to the different intake configuration that portion would be different. If I had that kind of lying around I would jump on this in a heartbeat and worry about the details later. If anyone was local to the shop so Don could look at the setup on our cars, we could get a better idea of what needed to be done.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:24 AM   #141
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I thought the FA20 was very different from the FB20. I remember reading something on the BRZ that said the two engines "share maybe a couple screws".

For 5K though, wouldn't it be better to just do an engine swap with an existing turbo engine?

If the FA20 and FB20 are similar, theoretically, couldn't we get close to the 50hp difference by swapping over the parts that make the FA20 different? I know the FA20 revs higher, and has a higher compression ratio, what else is different from the FB20?
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:17 AM   #142
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I thought the FA20 was very different from the FB20. I remember reading something on the BRZ that said the two engines "share maybe a couple screws".

For 5K though, wouldn't it be better to just do an engine swap with an existing turbo engine?

If the FA20 and FB20 are similar, theoretically, couldn't we get close to the 50hp difference by swapping over the parts that make the FA20 different? I know the FA20 revs higher, and has a higher compression ratio, what else is different from the FB20?
Internally the differences are: different block, head, connecting rods, and pistons

FA
  • Bore: 86 mm
  • Stroke: 86 mm
  • Displacement: 1,998 cc
  • Compression Ratio: 12.5:1
  • Power: 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) at 7,000 RPM
  • Torque: 20.9 kgm (205 Nm; 151 lbft) at 6,400-6,600 RPM
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  • FB20: 1,995 cc, DOHC, 84 mm bore x 90 mm stroke, 10.5:1 Compression Ratio,
Rated at: 109 kW (148PS) @6,000 rpm, 196 Nm (20 kgm) @4,200 rpm in

I was referring more to the layout and in that respect the two engines are similar thus allowing for a similar setup in the turbo configuration.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:25 PM   #143
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Thanks for the Ebay link for the LED's!

Just put them in last night and I'm loving the LED DRLights.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:34 PM   #144
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Thanks for the Ebay link for the LED's!

Just put them in last night and I'm loving the LED DRLights.
How are they when you flicker the HiBeams? Bright?
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How are they when you flicker the HiBeams? Bright?

Lets just say they are more for looks rather than using them for high beam function.

I will try to video tape it tonight if I get a chance.
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Ok thanks!
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:16 PM   #147
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:04 PM   #148
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Internally the differences are: different block, head, connecting rods, and pistons

FA

[*]Bore: 86 mm[*]Stroke: 86 mm[*]Displacement: 1,998 cc[*]Compression Ratio: 12.5:1[*]Power: 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) at 7,000 RPM[*]Torque: 20.9 kgm (205 Nm; 151 lbft) at 6,400-6,600 RPM

FB

[*]FB20: 1,995 cc, DOHC, 84 mm bore x 90 mm stroke, 10.5:1 Compression Ratio,

Rated at: 109 kW (148PS) @6,000 rpm, 196 Nm (20 kgm) @4,200 rpm in

I was referring more to the layout and in that respect the two engines are similar thus allowing for a similar setup in the turbo configuration.
I always thought bolt on turbo kits were a bad idea on a naturally aspirated engine hence non of the old 2.5i guys ever did them.. nor did they run cold air intakes. The hybrid intake was popular with them. To my research, this practice held true from late 90's na imprezas to current day.. ever notice how popular turbo cars that have na siblings always have different engines? Eclipse, mr2, wrx just to name a few. I love the idea, by all means if it can safely be done I am all for it. But I would severly research it before attempting.
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i didn't like the new impreza all that much until I saw this. Sounds great and doesn't look half bad
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Just the intake side.

My guess is that MPG might increase slightly, that's probably about it. I'm going to go with a a Cosworth drop in filter and I'll be modding the intake tube so there might be a light increase in performance from doing that.
My guess... You'll notice noise and engine dress up, nothing more. Ecu is the same. Plus you're eliminating the helmholtz resonator which would actually cost you low end torque. That seemingly useless chamber on your intake is there for a reason. Drop in a filter for sheer ethics and call it a day. I know I know.. bad news. But until someone dynos and disproves past dyno tests on other na subies.. I'm going to go with the test that shows you actually lose power with an aftermarket intake setup. Rs25.com is a good resource for na stuff.
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