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Old 04-20-2012, 08:20 AM   #1
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We talk about German supersedans as "built for the Autobahn" and other clichés about the country's sometimes-unrestricted highways, and this 2012 BMW M5 proves it after crashing at 186 mph without killing the driver or passengers. The accident occurred on Tuesday evening and was caused by a vehicle merging onto the A81 freeway near Tuningen, not far from the Swiss border in southwest Germany.
The 60-year-old M5 driver swerved left to avoid the incoming car, lost control, and crashed repeatedly into both the left and right-side barriers lining the road. The M5 rolled several times before coming to rest over 320 feet (100 meters) down in the grass. Smoke was coming out of the hood, but the driver's two sons, following in an M6 and an M3, were able to rescue their father and put out the fire with a fire extinguisher.
Looking at the damage on the car and with reports that it was travelling around 186 mph (300km/h) before leaving the road, it's remarkable that anyone survived at all.
The road was completely shut down for several hours to clean up the completely totaled car.

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The driver and his 20-year-old passenger in the car were seriously injured and have been hospitalized. Their dog in the back seat was also hurt. This particular Autobahn, the A81 running from Stuttgart almost to the Swiss border, is one of the longest stretches of unrestricted road in Germany. Even with a supposedly perfect car like an M5, it's still a dangerous place for such high-speed driving.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:21 AM   #2
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #3
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holy crap....

German engineering at its best.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:31 AM   #4
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:33 AM   #5
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Looks like that thing bled off a hell of a lot of steam spinning and bouncing off things. Pretty survivable really. EDIT: for a crash at that speed.

Pretty irresponsible driving though.

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Old 04-20-2012, 09:47 AM   #6
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holy crap....

German engineering at its best.
You can't judge how well a car handled an impact from a max speed and a crumpled heap. Well, a team of engineers with computer models and a black box can.. but you can't judge it with your eyes.

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Looks like that thing bled off a hell of a lot of steam spinning and bouncing off things. Pretty survivable really.

Pretty irresponsible driving though.
Exactly.. The whole reason the Autobahn (and our Interstate system that mimics it) was designed was to make high travel speeds a safe. This means having sufficient run-off room for a wreck like this to have a gradual deceleration. Spectacular wrecks where the car flips or cartwheels 8 times will batter the passengers, but they're rarely fatal. It's the ones that aren't spectacular that are usually deadly... and those are the crashes that the engineers are attempting to make safer.

No doubt, BMWs are well built cars with a great safety record.. but this isn't an example that proves anything other than the driver's irresponsibility.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:18 AM   #7
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as long as deceleration wasn't instant constant tumbling / rollovers should be pretty survivable as long as seatbelts are worn.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #8
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:36 AM   #9
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Well, it's good that he was driving with his sons behind him. Even better that they happened to have a fire extinguisher on them.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:57 AM   #10
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:28 AM   #11
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Since the dog survived, I have to assume that the guy had it properly belted in the back seat.
Kudos to him for that at least, but you don't drive 186mph with a dog and passenger in the car.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:30 AM   #12
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I'm wondering who the 60 year-old's 20 year-old occupant was haha... mistress, perhaps? If it were his son/daughter, I'd assume they'd report it as such, since they mentioned that the drivers following him were his sons.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:06 PM   #13
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Contrary to popular belief, the Autobahn is not a race track.

And the accident was "caused by a vehicle merging?" Not by the driver going too fast for conditions? Sure . . .
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Contrary to popular belief, the Autobahn is not a race track.

And the accident was "caused by a vehicle merging?" Not by the driver going too fast for conditions? Sure . . .
Yeah no kidding, the article makes it sound like the merging car was at fault.

It is the responsibility of the driver in the faster car to only drive at those speeds when the road is clear. If they are coming up on a merge with other cars, the road isn't clear. People pulling on the main road can't be expected to sit there and ponder "I wonder if someone is coming up at 186 MPH..."

Keep in mind that 186 MPH covers 1/4 mile in less than 5 seconds. If the faster car is 1/2 mile away, it will be just a speck and right on top of the merge area <10 seconds later. So even if they can barely see traffic on the main road, they could be there in seconds. This is why it is always the fault of the faster car at those speed.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:16 PM   #15
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Looooots of experts about the Autobahn and high speed wrecks in this thread, but I guess I should expect nothing less from the internet lol.


Kudos to BMW for building a safe car. Regardless of how much speed was 'bled off', hitting anything repeatedly at 180+ mph is going to be dangerous and deadly.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:22 PM   #16
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Contrary to popular belief, the Autobahn is not a race track.

And the accident was "caused by a vehicle merging?" Not by the driver going too fast for conditions? Sure . . .
Who said it was a race track? Was the driver breaking any laws? Interesting that without additional information you're ready to dismiss the report as false. How do you know the slower car didn't merge into the high speed lane? Are their reports of them weaving in and out of traffic, cutting people off...?
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Who said it was a race track? Was the driver breaking any laws? Interesting that without additional information you're ready to dismiss the report as false. How do you know the slower car didn't merge into the high speed lane? Are their reports of them weaving in and out of traffic, cutting people off...?
Some of my friends have been stationed in Germany, anyone driving that fast assumes all the responsibility. If there are other cars on the road that *could* switch lanes into your path, its your fault for running into them.

The Autobahn is fun and all for people who get to drive quickly on it, but when you get into the "3x faster than normal speed limits" zone and other cars are around, it isn't safe due to the extremely fast closing speeds.
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I'm wondering who the 60 year-old's 20 year-old occupant was haha... mistress, perhaps? If it were his son/daughter, I'd assume they'd report it as such, since they mentioned that the drivers following him were his sons.
I was thinking the same thing. If the 60 year old can afford an M5, and his sons can afford an M3 and M6 (which may have all been dad's cars), the guy certainly has enough money to afford a nice young mistress.
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whats with all the bmws at the crash scene? anyway, another reason not to do 186 on the highway when other cars are present.
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Did you not read the article? The driver in the M5 was on the Autobahn with his sons, who were driving an M3 and M6. Obviously they didn't just keep driving after their dad crashed, hence the cars being in the pictures.
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Some of my friends have been stationed in Germany, anyone driving that fast assumes all the responsibility. If there are other cars on the road that *could* switch lanes into your path, its your fault for running into them.

The Autobahn is fun and all for people who get to drive quickly on it, but when you get into the "3x faster than normal speed limits" zone and other cars are around, it isn't safe due to the extremely fast closing speeds.
Pretty much.

This guy was sharing the road with semis and old people in ****ty little Fiats going ~60mph.
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You can't judge how well a car handled an impact from a max speed and a crumpled heap. Well, a team of engineers with computer models and a black box can.. but you can't judge it with your eyes.

Exactly.. The whole reason the Autobahn (and our Interstate system that mimics it) was designed was to make high travel speeds a safe. This means having sufficient run-off room for a wreck like this to have a gradual deceleration. Spectacular wrecks where the car flips or cartwheels 8 times will batter the passengers, but they're rarely fatal. It's the ones that aren't spectacular that are usually deadly... and those are the crashes that the engineers are attempting to make safer.

No doubt, BMWs are well built cars with a great safety record.. but this isn't an example that proves anything other than the driver's irresponsibility.
High speed is 100-120 if you ask me. Anything over 150 for more then a second or two is dumb and crazy.
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Looooots of experts about the Autobahn and high speed wrecks in this thread, but I guess I should expect nothing less from the internet lol.
.. and that makes you what?

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Kudos to BMW for building a safe car. Regardless of how much speed was 'bled off', hitting anything repeatedly at 180+ mph is going to be dangerous and deadly.
That car never hit anything more than a blade of grass at 180mph.


Just because he was travelling that fast when he started to lose control doesn't mean he the car any any serious impacts.
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I'm wondering who the 60 year-old's 20 year-old occupant was haha... mistress, perhaps? If it were his son/daughter, I'd assume they'd report it as such, since they mentioned that the drivers following him were his sons.
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I was thinking the same thing. If the 60 year old can afford an M5, and his sons can afford an M3 and M6 (which may have all been dad's cars), the guy certainly has enough money to afford a nice young mistress.
LOL! Thought the same thing! Living the life! [Except for almost dying in a fiery car crash.]
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Well, it's good that he was driving with his sons behind him. Even better that they happened to have a fire extinguisher on them.
First aid kits and extinguishers are mandatory in germany
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