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Old 04-23-2012, 07:59 AM   #1
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:57 PM   #2
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I wish I could get a trooper escort on the Garden State Parkway!

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Troopers probed in high-speed escort of exotic sports cars; ex-Giants running back said to be involved
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Last updated: Sunday April 22, 2012, 9:58 AM
BY CHRISTOPHER BAXTER

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The state police are investigating complaints that two troopers escorted a caravan of luxury sports cars at speeds in excess of 100 mph down the Garden State Parkway to Atlantic City last month. The occupants included former Giants running back and sports-car enthusiast Brandon Jacobs, according to a source with knowledge of the trip.

In the complaints, witnesses said that in the early afternoon March 30, they saw two state police cars with their emergency lights flashing driving in front of and behind the southbound caravan, which included dozens of Porsches, Lamborghinis, Ferraris and other vehicles, all with their license plates covered with tape.

One witness, Wayne Gantt, dubbed the escort “Death Race 2012.”

“I had the great pleasure today of nearly being killed by, not one, but two, Lamborghinis traveling in excess of 110 mph in a [New Jersey State Police] escorted ‘caravan’ of approximately 30 exotic vehicles all traveling well over 100 mph,” Gantt wrote in an email complaint to the New Jersey Turnpike Authority.

A spokesman for the state police, Lt. Stephen Jones, confirmed that the matter is under investigation but declined to comment on the specifics. But he said escorts are allowed only on rare occasions for events such as services for a fallen serviceman or other high-profile funerals, and they are requested through the chain of command and approved by top brass.

A source familiar with the outing said that Jacobs, who played seven seasons for the Giants before being released this year, was among those in the caravan that drove to Atlantic City. The source was not authorized to discuss the matter and requested anonymity.

Jacobs’ agent, Justin Schulman, when asked to confirm that the NFL player was part of the luxury car blitz, said: “Brandon was part of a group that went down to Atlantic City on March 30.”

The Friday afternoon trip came two days after Jacobs, a two-time Super Bowl champion, agreed to terms of a one-year contract with the San Francisco 49ers.

Jacobs, who is known within pro football circles for his collection of flashy sports cars, told Rides Magazine in October that he often cruises with the Driving Force Club. The elite New York City-based group is “for all car fanatics with a spice of racing and adrenaline rush in their hearts,” according to its website.

Two videos posted to YouTube.com depicted a caravan of sports cars from the club returning from Atlantic City on March 31, and captions on the videos said the caravan included Jacobs.

Gantt’s complaint and another, filed by John Kennedy of Madison, were sent to the Turnpike Authority on March 30 and April 1, respectively. A spokesman for the authority, Tom Feeney, said they were forwarded to state police officials who indicated they would handle the situation. The complaints were obtained Friday by The Star-Ledger under the state’s Open Public Records Act.

Gantt could not be reached for comment. But Kennedy, reached by telephone, told The Star-Ledger that he spoke with a state police detective during the week and was told officials would be following up as part of their internal investigation. He said Friday that one older driver “almost wound up in the ditch because she panicked.”

“It was obvious that the authorities were abetting others to break the law.”
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #3
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Call me when they do a buck eighty.

Seriously, we need to be more like the autobahn. It would scare people into not driving.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:09 PM   #4
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LOL at the tape over the plates.

If I saw 30 supercars weaving through traffic at 100+ mph, bookended by NJ State Troopers, the last thing I'd think to do is write down a plate or two. It also makes any car captured in a photo instantly identifiable as having been a part of this group.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:20 PM   #5
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Oh god no, not 110mph!? So scary lol.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:44 PM   #6
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It's irresponsible, illegal, and I'd be pissed if I encountered such an above-the-law entourage, too. I hope they all get busted.

Want to get to Atlantic City quicker? Rent a damn helicopter or charter a jet. Don't endanger the rest of the people on the road with your antics.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:49 PM   #7
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They did it with former governor Corzine... I guess the policy has expanded.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:54 PM   #8
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LOL at the tape over the plates.

If I saw 30 supercars weaving through traffic at 100+ mph, bookended by NJ State Troopers, the last thing I'd think to do is write down a plate or two. It also makes any car captured in a photo instantly identifiable as having been a part of this group.
Identifiable as part of the group, but not identifiable by traffic cameras, or any passer-by's cameras, or legally traceable to the owner under due process.

It is obstruction of justice, and tampering with the vehicle's law-required registration.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:56 PM   #9
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The complainers are likely left-lane cloggers. They seem to be the type that are easily offended.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:06 AM   #10
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If the people entrusted to enforce the law can't be expected to uphold the law, and are seen to be setting a double standard... there is every reason to be outraged.

It undermines law and order, by the very people who are entrusted with authority to uphold it. It is abuse of authority.

Anyone who can't see that is likely to be one who wants a double standard advantage for themselves, and thus a corrupted country of men who can get special favors, rather than all men being equal under the law, and justice to be blind to anything but the evidence and the facts.

This is a nation of laws, not of men, but it is quickly turning upside down in that respect, and it is nothing to be proud of, or to wish for. If you ever find yourself at the disadvantage, you'll wish the law were applied impartially. Usually the guilty want special dispensation.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:43 AM   #11
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The complainers are likely left-lane cloggers. They seem to be the type that are easily offended.
That's not true for this complainer, at least.

As a grownup with my head screwed on properly, I don't speed more than ~5 over these days, and am Germanesque in my lane discipline. I don't begrudge people doing 10 or 15 over when conditions allow, and certainly won't hold anyone up to prove some point. I do think a convoy of cars doing 50 over is something fundamentally different, and is an action that should be prosecuted, though.

If you can't see the difference between those two scenarios (routine speeding and the OP's convoy) you're probably under 25, male, and single, with a brain marinating in pent-up testosterone and thus unable to function properly.

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Old 04-24-2012, 08:43 AM   #12
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uhhhh, REPOST
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Whining about safety aside, the question is would the police provide a high-speed escort for a Tri-State motoring club comprised of, say, solely WRXs and STIs and allow the drivers to mask their plates?

I thought not.

This is about privilege.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:15 AM   #14
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proof there are 2 sets of rules. Just ask the old governor Corzine who also regularly has his own "Speed escort" and no seatbelt when he crashed
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:17 AM   #15
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Call me when they do a buck eighty.

Seriously, we need to be more like the autobahn. It would scare people into not driving.
I have always,and that goes back a long way, said that elimination of the speed limits would be the best way to promote public transportation.
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proof there are 2 sets of rules. Just ask the old governor Corzine who also regularly has his own "Speed escort" and no seatbelt when he crashed
Probably figured that if Putin could do it all the way down Kutuzovsky Prospekt, then he could as well. In Putin's case they shut down the streets, though.
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The complainers are likely left-lane cloggers. They seem to be the type that are easily offended.
You're likely stupid.

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If the people entrusted to enforce the law can't be expected to uphold the law, and are seen to be setting a double standard... there is every reason to be outraged.

It undermines law and order, by the very people who are entrusted with authority to uphold it. It is abuse of authority.
Very much THIS.

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As a grownup with my head screwed on properly, I don't speed more than ~5 over these days, and am Germanesque in my lane discipline. I don't begrudge people doing 10 or 15 over when conditions allow, and certainly won't hold anyone up to prove some point. I do think a convoy of cars doing 50 over is something fundamentally different, and is an action that should be prosecuted, though.
And pretty much this too.

The guys speeding should have their license yanked, the cops should get jail time. What the cops did is by far the more serious offense IMO.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:45 AM   #18
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Has anyone commenting on this thread ever driven to Atlantic City? The parkway is the perfect layout for 100+mph cruising.



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The complainers are likely left-lane cloggers. They seem to be the type that are easily offended.
Says the guy with a BMW.
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Has anyone commenting on this thread ever driven to Atlantic City? The parkway is the perfect layout for 100+mph cruising.

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Not when traffic is not sustaining anywhere near that speed. That is ~30mph closing speed on likely average traffic speed traveling the same direction, let alone considering errant on-coming traffic going the wrong way, or someone going below the speed limit, or closing on a previous accident that is stationary in a lane of traffic.

You may be able to make an argument for raising speed limits, but not arbitrarily enforcing them, and then deciding otherwise to break them yourself, like these cops did.
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Have you driven on the parkway?

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Not that parkway, but interstates, toll-roads, and other highways like it.

I have driven this country, in various trips, from new england to the southwest, and california... and vast flat expanses of the midwest, where high speeds could cut HOURS, not just minutes off of travel time, if allowed.

Most of my weekend road trips are longer than the entire length of the state of New Jersey.

But traffic issues still apply. You still have to share the road with others, and mishaps do happen. Closing on an accident scene at 100mph could exceed some vehicles ability to stop within sight-line distance, even on a clear day with an attentive driver.
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Closing on an accident scene at 100mph could exceed some vehicles ability to stop within sight-line distance, even on a clear day with an attentive driver.
Jalopies should probably not be going 100mph on an interstate highway anyway. Perhaps they should have a little room to drive around in to keep them out of the way.
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Meh - I would venture a guess the average speed of the parkway is a good 80 mph as it is....so 100 realy isnt that crazy (especially in those cars).

Also, if you think those cops acted alone and decided to randomly escort a gumball run for a ferrari club (that does this every year "for charity" by the way) you are mildly obtuse.
Some brass has thought this was a good idea for a few years now (go look it up - this isnt a one-time occurrence) and have given their stamp of approval on it (whether verbal or otherwise) - these 2 troopers were certainly instructed to perform this civic duty (and did not just take it upon themselves).
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im with you guys

a lambo can hit 100 or 110 to 0 faster then most normal vehicles/trucks...i dont see the problem, everyone here has sped before
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