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Old 04-23-2012, 03:00 PM   #1
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I have used both vavoline fully synthetic 5w30 and royal purple 5w30.. Herd some bad news about royal purple and how it breaks down faster... Right now I have the oem Subaru oil running in it and need to do an oil change soon. Any recommendations on why type of oil to put in for this next oil change?
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:28 PM   #2
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I have used both vavoline fully synthetic 5w30 and royal purple 5w30.. Herd some bad news about royal purple and how it breaks down faster... Right now I have the oem Subaru oil running in it and need to do an oil change soon. Any recommendations on why type of oil to put in for this next oil change?
Here is mostly likely what you will be told:

1. Use rotella t6
2. DON'T use Mobil 1 5w30
3. ZOMG!! You used a 5w30!!??
4. Read the stickies

.....and if a reply starts off as "d00000000000d" just run away because you are about to get flamed.



Seriously though, I have heard COUNTLESS good things about rotella t6, and there are many threads here backing that up, as well as many used oil analysis (UOA's).

Whatever you end up picking wait a few oil changes or so and get your oil tested. Then you can see if you made a good choice or not.

I would definetly stray away from any Mobil 5w30 because that junk even shears down pretty bad in my little n/a motor.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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5w30 is fine to use and where I live it's colder most of the time so don't see a need for a thicker oil but thanks.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:51 PM   #4
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I honestly can say vavoline fully synthetic 5w30 is the best oil I have used so far... But I rather find something better...
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:53 PM   #5
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Here is mostly likely what you will be told:

1. Use rotella t6
2. DON'T use Mobil 1 5w30
3. ZOMG!! You used a 5w30!!??
4. Read the stickies

.....and if a reply starts off as "d00000000000d" just run away because you are about to get flamed.

Seriously though, I have heard COUNTLESS good things about rotella t6, and there are many threads here backing that up, as well as many used oil analysis (UOA's).

Whatever you end up picking wait a few oil changes or so and get your oil tested. Then you can see if you made a good choice or not.

I would definetly stray away from any Mobil 5w30 because that junk even shears down pretty bad in my little n/a motor.
Lol stock OEM Subaru oil is 5w30 so why would I change the recommended oil?
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:57 PM   #6
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Lol stock OEM Subaru oil is 5w30 so why would I change the recommended oil?
Here we go.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:03 PM   #7
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2341355

A nice summary from an oil geek:

It's not unusual at all for any Resource Conserving 5W-30 (conventional or synthetic) to shear to a 20 weight in any car. The oil is pretty much designed to do that. Even Blackstone's "should be" viscosity starts at a 20 grade (9.1).

That's the funny thing about a lot of people freaking out about about newcars speccing 0 or 5W-20. Their 5W-30
is an xW-20 after a few hundred or thousand miles!

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
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Hmm none of this really helping except the summary... By thats why we do oil changes no oil will last and will eventually break down so if I'm doing oil changes every 2,000 to 3,000 miles I'm fine.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:30 PM   #9
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Hmm none of this really helping except the summary... By thats why we do oil changes no oil will last and will eventually break down so if I'm doing oil changes every 2,000 to 3,000 miles I'm wasting perfectly good oil.
Fixed.

These threads are my favorite .
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:40 PM   #10
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Fixed.

These threads are my favorite .
Lol you must be cheap then! Waiting till the last min to do an oil change... I like to do mine a little early so I don't have to worry. My own preference.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:46 PM   #11
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Lol you must be cheap then! Waiting till the last min to do an oil change... I like to do mine a little early so I don't have to worry. My own preference.
And how!

I'm so cheap that I switched to Walmart oil that I've been analyzing to figure out how long I can push off those oil changes.

I'm reckless!

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #12
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Lol you must be cheap then! Waiting till the last min to do an oil change... I like to do mine a little early so I don't have to worry. My own preference.
You have NO IDEA what "a little early" is with oil. You have two options in life with oil, so choose carefully:

1. Become really informed. Join the Bob is the Oil Guy forums. Learn about tribology. Learn all the nuances of oil in detail. In short, really care.

2. Stop giving a ****. Use an oil that appeals to you, is easy to source, and doesn't disappear. Change it at a frequency that is in your owner's manual or is easiest to remember for you. Shut up about it.


<-----------uses Walmart SuperTech synthetic + SuperTech filter for $21 in parts TOTAL and changes every 5000 miles and doesn't give a ****
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:50 PM   #13
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See this Subaru synthetic oil discussion from yesterday. C'mon people, don't be so lazy! No wonder you get flamed by Uncle Scotty. I'm about to go Uncle Scotty up in here!

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I honestly can say vavoline fully synthetic 5w30 is the best oil I have used so far... But I rather find something better...
Based on ?
A. Your trending of hundreds of thousands of miles of used oil analyses
or
B. Your car told you it likes it best

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Old 04-23-2012, 06:03 PM   #14
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Just about everyone on here will recommend rotella t6. There are some 5w30s that will be ok but why not go for the 5w40 if there are multiple analysis with great outcomes to back it up. I used to be like you until I stopped giving a **** and jumped on the t6 bandwagon.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:57 PM   #15
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Geez didn't think you people were so anal on here.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:02 PM   #16
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Lol you must be cheap then! Waiting till the last min to do an oil change... I like to do mine a little early so I don't have to worry. My own preference.
It's usually people's own preferences that get them into trouble when it comes to oil around here.....

DO you have any freaking idea the type of abuse oil goes through in a turbo engine...hmm??? Maybe you need to go do some research to see just how bad most 5w30 oils are in a subaru turbo engine....especially since most people drive their cars hard all the time....

You're the typical person that thinks a 5w30 is fine to run in a subaru turbo engine and then comes back and wines and cries about why their engine just spun a bearing.... But, wouldn't listen to the right advice about the best oil to use in one of these engines So really, pull up a chair, do some research and maybe you will learn a thing or two about the type of oil that "needs" to be used to protect the engine in your car.

Oh btw, the shell rotella T-6 5w40 has a pour point of -45 or so degrees so if you think the 5w40 is too thick you again don't know jack about oil...

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Old 04-23-2012, 07:07 PM   #17
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Geez didn't think you people were so anal on here.
The thing is, we see people just like you coming in here all the time crying about spinning a bearing in their car because they used the WRONG oil...period.. I don't want you to be one of those people. Just because the oil you were using seemed to be ok, why not understand what oil needs to be used and the long term benefits that come with using the RIGHT oil in your car

If you know about oil at all, then tell me why I and some other people on here see soo many 2.0 and some 2.5 subaru blocks with spun bearings then...??? Go look in the for sale classifieds and you will see what I am talking about.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:04 AM   #18
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Okay...? All I was asking was what YOUR preference was on oil .. Not some lecture. And spun bearing? Seriously... Look at my question and let's go from there. I haven't had one clear answer from any of you. I have zero problems with my 2004 STi , like I said all I want is a preference.
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Here is mostly likely what you will be told:

1. Use rotella t6
2. DON'T use Mobil 1 5w30
3. ZOMG!! You used a 5w30!!??
4. Read the stickies

.....and if a reply starts off as "d00000000000d" just run away because you are about to get flamed.



Seriously though, I have heard COUNTLESS good things about rotella t6, and there are many threads here backing that up, as well as many used oil analysis (UOA's).

Whatever you end up picking wait a few oil changes or so and get your oil tested. Then you can see if you made a good choice or not.

I would definetly stray away from any Mobil 5w30 because that junk even shears down pretty bad in my little n/a motor.
d000000000000000d...the OP is almost as bad as you are with these unnecessary threads

ALL this gets covered here almost daily and there is no need for any more IDIOT THREADS on this board
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5w30 is fine to use and where I live it's colder most of the time so don't see a need for a thicker oil but thanks.
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I honestly can say vavoline fully synthetic 5w30 is the best oil I have used so far... But I rather find something better...
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Hmm none of this really helping except the summary... By thats why we do oil changes no oil will last and will eventually break down so if I'm doing oil changes every 2,000 to 3,000 miles I'm fine.
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Lol you must be cheap then! Waiting till the last min to do an oil change... I like to do mine a little early so I don't have to worry. My own preference.
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Geez didn't think you people were so anal on here.
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Okay...? All I was asking was what YOUR preference was on oil .. Not some lecture. And spun bearing? Seriously... Look at my question and let's go from there. I haven't had one clear answer from any of you. I have zero problems with my 2004 STi , like I said all I want is a preference.
you are an idiot just like so many before you....i can only hope you sell the car after you blow it up rather than wrecking it

just dont buy another subaru when you sell or wreck this one...please
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The general recommendation is: Rotella
Personally I run Castol syntec in my car, but it's an N/A RS. I'd jump on the Rotella bandwagon if I had an STi.
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Okay...? All I was asking was what YOUR preference was on oil .. Not some lecture.
I gave you my preference in post #7 by expressing my disgust for all 5W-30s (EJ application) in the UOA I linked for you. You responded to my kindness by calling me cheap.

You asked for advice, rejected it and started spewing your own idiocy which others will then likely pass on .
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First off... I bought my car with needing a rebuilt motor, needing a rebuilt transmission and just bout anything else in between. I'm not an idiot... I bought my car from idiots like you who drive your car to the point of exhaustion without keeping up on maintenance and fixing common problems...and tell me when i buy the car you have taking maliciously care of it. B.S. Don't give me a lecture.
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The general recommendation is: Rotella
Personally I run Castol syntec in my car, but it's an N/A RS. I'd jump on the Rotella bandwagon if I had an STi.
See someone gave advice for once without freaking out and judging.. Someone actually did a recommendation. Thank you!

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you are an idiot just like so many before you....i can only hope you sell the car after you blow it up rather than wrecking it

just dont buy another subaru when you sell or wreck this one...please
Nope not happenen... Never selling mine because I take pride and care for it. Don't tell me in going to blow my brand new short block and try to sell it on this headache of a site. Never have I blown an engine and won't. Deal with it.
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